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Oh forget about the subsidies, think of those huge, juicy buggars quashed and spread - in Catalan fashion - on toast with a bit of garlic and olive oil. Or stuffed, straight from the oven. Or ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sjakihata
*walks off drooling, mumbling to self*
heh. Do you think people from the south of Europe dream of retiring to Britain or the Netherlands and growing turnips? Could a catalan journalist be wistfully imagining pulling a cabbage from the sodden earth in January...
No, me neither.
Don't go to Spain without careful consideration - the local government can. in some areas, screw you over big time and leave you with virtually no property rights.
Britain is probably too pricey for you.
It looks essentially like you are looking for a cheaper US rather than a foreign country! You could try central Europe I suppose (the Czech Republic maybe) but frankly you'd probably be happier in the States by the sounds of it. Probably in a gated community. ~D
New Zealand is a good place to emmigrate to, by all accounts, but I'm sure they have their problems as well.
Outdoor brunches in February, kids roaming freely in the hills and valleys, riding horses, village festivities, a swim in six foot Atlantic waves or the turquoise blue of the Med, ahh..
*walks into concrete Amsterdam lamp post*
For Europe, if you are annoyed by immigrants, avoid big cities. Smaller ones usually(but check) have far less of them, & more integrated(the lone problem we have with our 200 malians in my town is that the mosque is too small & has a risk for security therefore). In bigger ones, well, things usually doesn't happen that well..... Not that the immigrants are always guilty of everything, but they tend to form independant big groups, that tend to clash with older groups...
Your quality of life will drop like a brick if you are not in good health as you reach your golden years. I would choose an area with a progressive medical industry. ~:)
West Michigan is pretty nice. Lots of medicine, blue sky, all 4 seasons and there are many philanthropists driving the recreational side of life ~:cool: . There is a bit of an unemployment issue, as many manufacturing jobs are being sent overseas but if you are retired it wont matter much.
Another thing I would consider are the chances of a natural or un-natural disaster. ~:eek:
Spain is among the world's healthiest countries. Spanish women have an average life expectancy of 80, men of 74. Health care and services are excellent and among the best in the EU, except in rural areas where they are spread rather thin and suffer from underinvestment.
¡Olé! :cool4:
Does no-one see the ridiculousness of a would-be immigrant asking to find a country without other immigrants?
Does he? Oh sjees, he does. Guess I just missed that post. Divinus Arma, forget Spain, there are far too many immigrants there! Stay clear, leave to place to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
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No he didn't, he just expressed concerns about an area with a high amount of ILLEGAL immigrants, or areas where there are problems because of immigrants which is totally different and completely understandable.
I am sure Spain has illegal immigrants, and to compound the situation they have a socialist government. It just wouldn' t do for a well to do, elderly citizen looking for peace and quiet and subservient locals such as Divinus Arma. What can I say, I will miss him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ja'chyra
Spain has HUGE amounts of illegal immigrants coming from North Africa.
Yes, ENORMOUS WAVES of them. They are flooding the countryside, taking over Madrid. I phoned Barcelona yesterday and the guy on the other end said 'Salam aleikum'. It's 732 all over again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sjakihata
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Lol, liked the elderly citizen part ~D Maybe we should be thinking about places that has free bus transport and lots of ramps for his zimmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianII
Sorry DA ~:cheers:
I did see a programme about Bulgaria a few months back and it looked quite good, I think me and the wife will retire abroad when the time comes but we've got 30 years to decide.
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Originally Posted by AdrianII
Forget it! Bulgaria is still too close to Spain. In 30 years it'll be SWAMPED by illegal immigrants!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ja'chyra
Property in Scotland is generally cheaper than in England or in Wales. I think housing in Northern Ireland may be fairly cheap by these standards too.
NOTE: cheap housing in the U.K. is expensive compared to the USA, you will be astounded at how far your dollar will not go in the U.K. housing market.
They was running around in France 732... ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianII
Sweden/scandinavia is quite covered. Can add that all countries here got good economy though.
I'm still trying to think of reasons to move to Holland. The weather? The chicks? Gedoogbeleid? Probably not the best place to retire to.
Spain's excellent. When I retire, that's where I'd want to go; had plenty of good times around there. Though it's probably rather early to start thinking about retiring when you're 18.
Actually only people who are of retirement age should consider the Netherlands. In 30 years it's going to be under the sea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
Looks like I'll have to invest in a boat, then.
Come to the Isle of Man;
1. 10% tax
2. Me
3. won't be the only Manxman at the org
4. 2 weeks off in june for the TT races...
why wait?
Or better yet. Buy all boats/ships/barges/etc. Then conduct a smooth, quick, and painless coup d'état. Just hold office for awhile. Then when the flooding begins, issue the following directives: it is illegal to leave Holland. It is illegal to import boats/ships/barges/etc. All offenses will be punished harshly. [insert prefered advertisement, with discounts on YOUR boats/ships/barges/etc at very reasonable prices] (for example only €10,000 for one)Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
Then celebrate and buy yourself an umbrella.
Exeter, isn't that the home of Met Office, Britain's leading center of globalwarmophobia? They moved there in 2003, I believe. Smack in the middle of the Exe estuary, a location that will be awash with floodwaters in 30 years time if we are to believe the Met Office's own dire predictions. Which I guess we shouldn't, hm? I mean if they locate their main office in the, um, frontline of global warming?Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
:sunny:
Exeter City flood warnings
All Flood Warnings Are Serious
Do take the following steps as soon as you hear a warning. Don't wait until the situation gets worse before you do anything. The better prepared you are, the better you will cope with the effects of flooding.
Do watch what's happening. Is the weather getting worse? What are other people doing? Should you be doing the same?Do move your car to higher ground.
It only takes two feet of fast flowing water to wash your car away.
Etcetera etcetera...
Come to Portugal.....it´s basically Spain without the ETA nutjobs, friendlier people(in my opinion...but i can´t really say the spanish aren´t friendly), and a slower life pace.
Move to Norway, here you get:
-Free hospital visits. Smoke the shit out of yourself and get free treatment for your cancer.
-High taxes. Share, share!
-High gas prices. Keeps your driving to a minimal, good for the enviroment.
Convincing, huh?
plus you got a socialist government willing to spend all those oil fantazillions on improving welfare.
Actually they plan to improve the welfare without dipping into the oil fund iirc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sjakihata
Actually, maybe you should give the Orkneys a try. Plenty of other vikings-by-descent there. Some areas still speak Norwegian.
Well Belgium if you want to live in a country whitout a (real) army, with no real influence in foreign politics (you won't live in a country who starts wars).
But is known for it's Chocolate Beer and french fries (it should be called Belgian Fries ***** *** *****) and drink in public when your older then 16 years and so on and on... ~D
come to belgium Uncle Corneel wants you... ~;)
(ps: we're also known for our lame dutch jokes :p (it's like an England-french or US-Canada thingy))