Which faction are you most interested in historically?

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Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

I first looked for "Casse" but seeing it absent, the Britons. The British are the fathers of America. So, Naturally...

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Wrong British.

the germans. they're metal and they kick ass

Id say greek mainly cuz of sparta aswell, but then theres loads of others dacia,thrace pontus, carthage and numidia

I anwered Kingdom of Pontus because the birth of the kingdom is quite fascinating and it was also an interesting mix of hellenic and oriental cultures.

*shouts in an impressive deep voice after seeing Rome in the lead*

"Roman dogs! You shall feel the blade of my falcata!"



~;)

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Originally Posted by Divinus Arma

I first looked for "Casse" but seeing it absent, the Britons. The British are the fathers of America. So, Naturally...

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Not really. They were mostly supplanted by the Angles, the Saxons, and the Jutes in England, Germanic tribes that invaded when Rome left. There's a reason we speak a descendant of Anglo-Saxon and not a descendant of Celtic. (The Normans, more Germanics, also influenced our language after their invasion in 1066, but they spoke Norman, a descendant of Vulgar Latin probably most similar to modern French. Thence many pairs of words in English: a common Germanic form, and a "fancier" Latin form. Compare, for instance, look and examine, or king and monarch―although that latter ultimately stems from Greek, it came to us through Latin.)

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Originally Posted by deathtoallhumans

should have ancient isreal on the list

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That would be roughly four centuries out of period, give or take, depending on how you count. Assyria conquered the Northern Kingdom in roughly 722 BCE, exiling much of its population (the Ten Tribes) and basically destroying it as a Hebrew state. In the 580s, Babylon seized the southern Kingdom of Judah; the Babylonian Empire fell to the Persian Empire in the 540s-530s, giving Israel brief semi-independence until it was recaptured by Persia a decade or two later.

In the 330s, Alexander toppled Persia and took over Israel. Upon his death, the Seleucids and Ptolemaics began a series of constant battles over ownership of the province, which eventually ended with the Seleucids victorious. In about 180 BCE, the Maccabees revolted and kicked out the Seleucids, making an independent Maccabeean Kingdom for about a century. Then the Romans took over, and after a few failed Judean rebellions, they got annoyed and razed the Jewish Temple, killed and exiled Jews by the thousands, and generally ended Jewish control over the region until the modern State of Israel.

So unless you're thinking of the Maccabeean Kingdom, including ancient Israel would be rather like including ancient Egypt or Assyria or Babylonia: completely anachronistic.

British are not the fathers of America. Only of the U.S.A., and part of Canada. America is a huge continent, colonized by no less than four Modern Age European powers.

And discovered by Asian paleolithic hunters, 10000 years ago. ~;)

Ha! This thread is a mini Punic war! :charge:

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Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus

British are not the fathers of America. Only of the U.S.A., and part of Canada. America is a huge continent, colonized by no less than four Modern Age European powers.

And discovered by Asian paleolithic hunters, 10000 years ago. ~;)

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The ancestors of the modern day Native American, correct?

Divinius- I don't mean to flog a dead horse here, but you are taking a rather Anglocentric view on America. Actually, I would rather say that the Spanish and French were the founders of America, and that the British, for the most part, came later.

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Oh, well...

Pax Romana

I'm infatuated with all history. The Question is a GAH!

but I choose Kart'hadish, largely because of their bittersweet history.

After becoming infatuated with these ancient traders and the histories of the Gaulish tribes I have grown to despise the Romans wholeheartedly. Pax Romana is a disgusting term and is kin to phrases any politician crafts to bring their people to heel around a noble idea, skewed into the domination and destruction of different cultures.

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Originally Posted by meatwad

Divinius- I don't mean to flog a dead horse here, but you are taking a rather Anglocentric view on America. Actually, I would rather say that the Spanish and French were the founders of America, and that the British, for the most part, came later.

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Oh, well...

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werent all the people that led the rebellion(war of independance) of british decent? didnt they found the USA? though i freely admit i know nothing of american history except for a little about the civil war.

Actually, the war of US indepedence was fought by British, French, Dutch, German, Polish and a few other groups, though not all by purely descent; French were mostly allies, and the Poles were largely mercenaries, but there were many British, Dutch, and German descended individuals there.

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Originally Posted by Sarcasm

*shouts in an impressive deep voice after seeing Rome in the lead*

"Roman dogs! You shall feel the blade of my falcata!"



~;)

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well. Iberia is nice. but there's just too little information...
the mere fact that EB calls their troops by their Latin names says enough..

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Originally Posted by meatwad

Divinius- I don't mean to flog a dead horse here, but you are taking a rather Anglocentric view on America. Actually, I would rather say that the Spanish and French were the founders of America, and that the British, for the most part, came later.

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Oh, well...

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The French? Brasil anyone? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by jerby

Well. Iberia is nice. but there's just too little information...
the mere fact that EB calls their troops by their Latin names says enough..

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That's my point...Rome is the faction we know most about. Isn't it a lot more interesting to view other less known factions?

And...

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Originally Posted by Colovion

After becoming infatuated with these ancient traders and the histories of the Gaulish tribes I have grown to despise the Romans wholeheartedly. Pax Romana is a disgusting term and is kin to phrases any politician crafts to bring their people to heel around a noble idea, skewed into the domination and destruction of different cultures.

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My thoughts exactly...not to mention many people (including CA) have this preconceived idea that other cultures were mere bumps in road of Rome becoming an Empire. Rome's ascendency was far from being inevitable.

To me it's much more fun crushing the Romans than to play with them...In vanilla I used to ferry troops around the map and keep the romans from expanding too much. Many a times did I recuperate the Macedons, the Greeks, the Carthaginians, the Iberians and all those other factions from being swept away by the Roman flood. Hopefully, EB will change all this.

Roma delenda est! :rtwno:

~;)

Nice last sentence Sarcasm ~D

I voted Ptolemees; a very cool little kingdom, arguably the center of hellenic culture and knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Ellesthyan

Nice last sentence Sarcasm ~D

I voted Ptolemees; a very cool little kingdom, arguably the center of hellenic culture and knowledge.

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Little kingdom? I think it's one of the most powerfull factions at the beginning of the game. ~:eek:

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Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus

British are not the fathers of America. Only of the U.S.A., and part of Canada. America is a huge continent, colonized by no less than four Modern Age European powers.

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A·mer·i·ca http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g...4/JPG/pron.jpg Pronunciation Key (ə-mĕrhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g.../GIF/prime.gifĭ-kə)

1. The United States.
2. also the A·mer·i·cas (-kəz). The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=America

Im always most interested in the factions i know the least about, thats why i chose the Mauryans, who were they?

< sticking with the American theme re Maurians >
Injuns!
With bows & arrows & big slow horsies.

Gauls, Britons, and Germans. I've only started 3 or so serious campaigns in RTW, never got close to finishing any like I did in MTW (I only finished like 2 or 3, mods included but still played longer than RTW). 1 of those 3 was the Germans. Pretty fun, but the lack of variety in barbarian units in vanilla RTW turned me off. Actually, seeing EB's unit diversity kinda made me see RTW units as bland and uninteresting. Maybe that's why I was never able to get a campaign going. But now I know I'll be starting one from one of those 3 factions, and hell, maybe even Baktria. And I am also interested in pre-Islamic Arabia, I don't know why, not much information on the Internet though and I really don't know many books on the subject either so while Im interested in it, I'm not too well read in it either.:book:

Two stats impresses' me on this poll. The high interest shown in Bactria and the VERY low interest shown in Macedonia. ~:confused:

Yay for jerby! ~:cheers:

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Originally Posted by meatwad

Divinius- I don't mean to flog a dead horse here, but you are taking a rather Anglocentric view on America. Actually, I would rather say that the Spanish and French were the founders of America, and that the British, for the most part, came later.

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Hey! I think you forgot about Portugal? Actually forget the French, it is Portugal and Spain. The treaty of Tordesillas clearly divided the world between Spanish and Portuguese rule. Before the official discovery of Brazil, the Spanish had the right to the hole continent of America as it was on their part of the share. After seeing that Brazil was not an island and that there was a lot of land there the Portuguese moved to change the treaty so as to give Portugal a big part of South America. ~:)

Of course before Columbus got to the Domenican Republic and Cuba, other european navigators had already sailed to America. Some of them French, some Spanish but most of them Portuguese.

All that debate is endless as "founders" is a very relative concept. The Vikings got to America long before the "Age of Discovery". Not to mention that the indian population in America (North, South and Central) descend from Asia. So the Asians got to America probably before anyone else.

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Originally Posted by Sarcasm

Yay for jerby! ~:cheers:

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what did i miss??

*edit: ah, i see... I'm just like Alexander..and i haven't got a clue what happened to macedon after him (and during the diadochi) that's why I'm interested. ~;)

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Originally Posted by kayapó

All that debate is endless as "founders" is a very relative concept. The Vikings got to America long before the "Age of Discovery". Not to mention that the indian population in America (North, South and Central) descend from Asia. So the Asians got to America probably before anyone else.

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It's thought that the Native Americans conducted trade with Asian peoples.

And since everybody actually comes from Africa, it was the Africans who discovered America, TWICE! First the ones who became "Asians" and crossed the Bering(sp) Strait, then, later, the ones who became "Europeans" in the Age of Discovery.

So, the dispute for the American continent is actually a "civil war" of distant brothers and cousins. :dizzy2: ~D :balloon2:

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Originally Posted by Wardo

And since everybody actually comes from Africa, it was the Africans who discovered America, TWICE! First the ones who became "Asians" and crossed the Bering(sp) Strait, then, later, the ones who became "Europeans" in the Age of Discovery.

So, the dispute for the American continent is actually a "civil war" of distant brothers and cousins. :dizzy2: ~D :balloon2:

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Yep, you got that right. ~D

[quote=NeonGod]It's thought that the Native Americans conducted trade with Asian peoples.[/b]

They actually migrated from Asia to America.

argh..what's teh deal! we all came from Africa!~;)