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I really don't see the difference between getting the promotion to Staff Sergeant and then going to Lt and going to Lt now. As I see it, they figured that the best man for the job would get the biggest promotion. The second-best man gets the lesser promotion.
I don't mean to offend you, but I don't quite understand your reasoning, DA. Post or PM me if you'd like, but I can't comprehend your decision.
While the paths which lead to being an NCO and a commisioned officer are different, and their responsiblities are different, the level of responsibility held by and respect recieved by a senior NCOs tends to be greater than that of junior Officers.
The other thing that concerns Divinus is that promotions within the Officer Corps are very competitive, and he might possibly fare better over the long haul had he spent some time as a SSgt first.
DA
I would love to. But my wife would kill me before the Iraqis ever had a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraxis
As far as the entire world, I recently posted a thread on "Why should I move to your country?"Quote:
Actually, I would rather like your take on that option. Would you really do it or is that "the entire world" minus that (not bashing at in case of that mind you). You are obviously good, so I guess good pay would be a certain.
I quite enjoy service. It is one of the few environment where many people truly believ in thing s like "honor", "integrity", "loyalty", "courage", and "commitment". So I guess I prefer a service-oreinted job like police, fire, medical, or military.
But I think the bottom line is professionalism. I am a professional. And one does not need to be military to be professional. No matter what I do, I will take my job seriously and treat it and my employer with deserved respect.
Its the lack of professionalism out in the civilian world that scares me mmost. For example, I had some lady get in a car accident and it was her fault. When I told her that it was her fault, she said I was just playing favorites because the other driver was military. I find this hilarious since I am a Military Policeman and my primary apprehension authority rests in my ability to arrest military. I have very limited authority over civilians. My point is that this lady really believed what she said. I am not looking forward to dealing with all the nuts out there like her.
And BTW, Del Arroyo is exactly correct in his assessments of the promotion system and my reason for leaving.
Yup, the world is indeed a scary place outside the military. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
Likewise for former prison inmates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
And he would be correct - those soldiers who become officers in the Army have a tendency to do much better on the promotion boards if they reached Staff Sergeant - (E6) before accepting a commission. I would image the promotion boards in the Marine Corps are even more competitive then the Army because of the number of slots available decrease significantly as you advance in rank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Arroyo
For instance when I was promoted to Major - the stats for my year group - ie the date of commission was that only roughly 30-35% of us reached that rank.
THe percentage of Majors promoted to LTC is somewhere like 50% in 2000 when I was released from active duty. Or 20% of the officers commissioned in 1986 making it to LTC in the year 2002-2003.
I really don’t know much about the American system regarding promotions in the none-commissioned and commissioned ranks. So bear with me.
If Divinus Arma really is all that you have told us so far and that it really is true that your superiors want you as a butter-bar (the lowest rank of lieutenant?).
I would say, jump at it man!
You are qualified and would obviously excel in you new rank. You would be closer to your superiors and they would more easily see what an excellent soldier you are.
I would think that further advancements would be easy and find place when they are due.
The rank-system I know, I believe, is quite different as we have compulsory service.
There are quite many soldiers serving from 3 to 12 months and if you stay longer, the chance to advance in rank are quite high. That is, up to lieutenant as many officers leave at that rank.
I myself left at the rank of ensign (fenrik) which would be equivalent with your butter-bar (you would probably not quite agree ~D ). It is of course not automatic, having a brain helps… ~;)
However I understand your viewpoint and also Redleg's issue on the promoting-system, but I think you should accept the commission. Your Wife would certainly also prefer that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
If you reject it, it will take years until the possebility will come again. Of Course, the Iraqis create good conditions to be promoted in the US-Army but it is pretty sick.
Staff Sergeant is mostly equal with a Stabsfeldwebel, it is not worth to cry about it if you can be Lieutenant.
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Put this on your shoulder, damish!