Voicemod ?

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Originally Posted by tk-421

I am sure that the languages will be depicted very accurately in the game, but I am curious, how do you know what some of those ancient extinct languages sounded like?

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Some ancient languages we use are simply the best replacement available. For example, Ossetic is the best possible replacement for the Sauromatae.
But some that we use have a wider academic history. I refer to Greek and Latin of course.

We know fairly accurately how Latin was pronounced thanks to a number of things:

1.Multiple ancient writings of rhetorians/grammarians (teachers who trained pupils in the art of speaking) describe where the tongue is located in the mouth for various sounds. One such grammarian is Marcus Fabius Quintilianus. Another is Spurius Carvilius Ruga (creator of the letter G). etc..
Aside from these grammarians there are also a myriad of other unrelated texts where tiny details of speech is revealed.

2.The science of linguistics tries to determine the pattern of phonemes, and determine how a language can change, where it can change, and how quickly it can change.

3.Moreover there has been a consequential and generational deliberation of the latin language's mutation over time. Largely thanks to dark-age & medieval monks/scholars who have written on the subject.

So in short, historic evidence as well as linguistic science determines our understanding of these ancient languages. Some languages are more certain than others. On one side of the spectrum is the pre-celtic Iberian language, which is the most mystical of all, of which we know nothing about. In the middle of the spectrum, we have the Ossetic for Sauromatae simply because we have no better alternative. And also the Celtic reconstructions by Ranika, which is based on a thorough understanding of the language. At the end of the spectrum we have the more certain languages, Latin and Greek (and Punic to some extent).

In any case, whatever percentile our inaccuracies may be, nothing is worse than the english voices. Totally ruins the atmosphere for me. :san_wink:

will there be new sound effects? like more "detailed pain" on the battlefield

I don't think we have that specifically planned, no.

nope

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Originally Posted by Gertgregoor

Isn't the greek translated? IF you really can't find anyone to record it, I will but I don't have the most matture voice and I don't know a bit greek.

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you would sound like retor Demosthenes before his ''r'' exercises

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Originally Posted by Idomeneas

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you would sound like retor Demosthenes before his ''r'' exercises

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poeh, I can be a verry good actor :san_wink:

Wait, so you have a new sound track, but you dont have new sound effects?

I could easly record myself screaming if you wanted.

Perhaps a cattle-call for folks to do various war cries will be in order; each faction using the war cries will have different ones, and it'd probably be nicer to splice many cries together to give it a crowd sound. However, some may need to be more rythmic. Celts I'd like to use 'chant', with different animations, so we can have a rythmic singing, for the more experienced soldiers (Celts were big on singing before battle).

If people record screams I can put them together if you like.

Don't want screams though, want specific sounds; some intelligible shouts and yells, depending on faction; names of deities and such.

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Originally Posted by Ranika

Don't want screams though, want specific sounds; some intelligible shouts and yells, depending on faction; names of deities and such.

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yeah, I know that but I couldn't find a better word.

BTW: if you have samples or something or info I might be able to try and reproduce them in some way. (And no, I won't be using my voice don't worry ~;) )

How about some things for Gauls? Some deity names (I'll toss in a few Belgic deities to keep it interesting);

Cernunnos (kur-NUN-os)
Belatacadros (bel-at-ah-KAD-rus)
Cathbadhen (kath-BAT-an)
Lugos (LUG-os)
Teutatis (TU-tet-es/TOW-tat-es/TOW-tat-rix {the last is from a variant name})
Epona (ep-OO-nah/ee-PON-ah)
Dis (dee/di)
Sucellos (soo-KEL-us/su-KEL-os)
Essus (EE-sus/ES-us)
Tarranis (TAR-an-es/te-REN-us/TER-an-os)

Some general shouts (stuff like 'death' and so on);

Basbh (basv/bav/baash; maybe in a loud, violent chant under the rest of the yell)
Catos (ka-TOS)
Neto (NEE-tow)
Abu (AH-boo; chanted)

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Originally Posted by Ranika

How about some things for Gauls? Some deity names (I'll toss in a few Belgic deities to keep it interesting);

Cernunnos (kur-NUN-os)
Belatacadros (bel-at-ah-KAD-rus)
Cathbadhen (kath-BAT-an)
Lugos (LUG-os)
Teutatis (TU-tet-es/TOW-tat-es/TOW-tat-rix {the last is from a variant name})
Epona (ep-OO-nah/ee-PON-ah)
Dis (dee/di)
Sucellos (soo-KEL-us/su-KEL-os)
Essus (EE-sus/ES-us)
Tarranis (TAR-an-es/te-REN-us/TER-an-os)

Some general shouts (stuff like 'death' and so on);

Basbh (basv/bav/baash; maybe in a loud, violent chant under the rest of the yell)
Catos (ka-TOS)
Neto (NEE-tow)
Abu (AH-boo; chanted)

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I'll try to get some people to come and record some.
then I'll put those all together. btw: how many do you need for the gauls? 1 or more?
do you also want some swords and shields wich will be slammed against each other or other such sounds?

If someone else also records some of these send them to me and I'll use them to.

Yeah, there should be the sound of metal hitting wood, and also wood to wood (spears hitting against a shield). And I think just one is needed.

It would be awesome if somewhere in this mod we all had our voice cameo in some form of war cry.

Seriously, I'm up for recording something.

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Originally Posted by the_handsome_viking

It would be awesome if somewhere in this mod we all had our voice cameo in some form of war cry.

Seriously, I'm up for recording something.

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That's would be fun indeed to have an unit with the EB fan warcry "Release the OB nooooooooooooooow !!!! " :san_grin:

I'll tell you what would be good. You know how at the start of the film 'Gladiator' the Germans come out of the forest and start making their warcry, and the Romans can hear it eerily coming from the distance? I think that some more atmospheric warcries like that would make fighting the barbarians that bit scarier and... atmospheric. As it is, I don't feel very frightened by the barbarian warcries.

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Originally Posted by the_handsome_viking

It would be awesome if somewhere in this mod we all had our voice cameo in some form of war cry.

Seriously, I'm up for recording something.

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If you have a microphone try recording one of those celtic sentences. And send them to me. If I'll be trying to make a good warcry I can use as many voices as possible.

do you also have other sounds like that carnutethingywhat'sthe name? (that tuba like thing but lower or things like that) included too?

EDIT:I made the swords and spears slamming sound. maybe we can discuss this further on msn or the EBH?

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Originally Posted by Zenith Darksea

I'll tell you what would be good. You know how at the start of the film 'Gladiator' the Germans come out of the forest and start making their warcry, and the Romans can hear it eerily coming from the distance? I think that some more atmospheric warcries like that would make fighting the barbarians that bit scarier and... atmospheric. As it is, I don't feel very frightened by the barbarian warcries.

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Germanic war cries sound different than Celtic ones. Celtic war cries will have two types. Some will use 'chant' instead, and sing a war song in a crowd-manner, and others will use a 'regular' war cry that will involve shield slamming and shouts. It should be pointed out that in the latter case, 'frightening' is not the idea, so much as building up the morale of those around you. The singing would be more disturbing, and also raise morale, so chant will work for that (though it'll need a new animation).