Anniversary of John Lennon's death

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12-10-2005, 01:41
Sasaki Kojiro

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Great artists are rarely great people, and people who accomplish great things are usually vain and egotistical.

He made some good music, that's what he'll be remembered for.
12-10-2005, 01:44
Byzantine Prince

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You are prick AdrianII. What can I do though, I cannot stop you. I can only join you. Here's the group that defined MY generation:

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12-10-2005, 01:55
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince

You are ***** AdrianII.

I beg your pardon?
12-10-2005, 02:08
Reverend Joe

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I have never been a fan of the Beatles. However, I can say that, whilst Van Morrison and the Rolling Stones were making unlistenable trash (I would still choose the Beatles over the *shudder* Stones any day), OTHER people were making good music. People such as

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and

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also

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not to mention

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but, most of all,

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The Voodoo Child. He will be missed.

Also, John Lennon, however much you may hate him, was not an evil man. Besides, he was shot. Show some respect for the dead. Hell, I don't like him, but I will still show a little respect.
12-10-2005, 03:00
Soulforged

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WOW ~:eek: !! This is great...I mean when somebody dies (here at least) people only sais good things about him, no matter his mistakes.

It's funny to look at an aniversary thread degenerate into criticism and flames.
12-10-2005, 03:04
Reverend Joe

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Originally Posted by Soulforged

WOW ~:eek: !! This is great...I mean when somebody dies (here at least) people only sais good things about him, no matter his mistakes.

It's funny to look at an aniversary thread degenerate into criticism and flames.

Yeah... I should calm down about this. :embarassed:

But I AM going to leave my post up, so that people can see what good music was all about during the 60's... actually, that was what I was really pissed about- Adrian referring to the Stones and Van Morrison as good music. Ech. :tongue:
12-10-2005, 03:21
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by Soulforged

WOW ~:eek: !! This is great...I mean when somebody dies (here at least) people only sais good things about him, no matter his mistakes.

You should have been here when Jacques Derrida or Yasser Arafat died. There was little sympathy shown, no quarter given. This is the backroom, Soulforged. If you can't stand the heat...

Oh, and I totally agree that Hendrix was a great musician. I was going to mention him next as one who made real music in the 60's.
12-10-2005, 03:25
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by Zorba

(..) that was what I was really pissed about- Adrian referring to the Stones and Van Morrison as good music. Ech. :tongue:

At least you weren't 'fab'... :charge:
12-10-2005, 03:28
Proletariat

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Originally Posted by AdrianII

That was only a symptom. Lennon was a vain, emotionally empty little man.

Meanwhile, back in the sixties, other people were making real music.

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'ello, Nail. Meet my friend, Hammer.
12-10-2005, 03:42
Louis VI the Fat

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Wow, who are all those medieval musicians in those black-and-white pictures?

And who is that Lennon-guy?
12-10-2005, 03:47
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by Proletariat

'ello, Nail. Meet my friend, Hammer.

Apart from their excellent music (although these days I'd wish they would disappear into the sunset with their wheelchairs and zimmer frames) there is an honest quality about them. Unlike in a guy like Lennon with all his self-involvement and intellectual pretense, what you see of The Stones is what you get. Bastards to a tee, all of them, but honest bastards.
~:cool:
12-10-2005, 03:56
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat

Wow, who are all those medieval musicians in those black-and-white pictures?

Well, they all had different names and styles, but what united them was that they played musical instruments. A musical instrument -- unlike your modern rhythm box with on/off switch and menu for slow, fast and annoyingly persistent boom-boom -- is a device used to produce tones in accordance to preconceived notions of harmony. They used to play these with their hands, feet (Townsend) or teeth (Hendrix). Funny stuff, eh?

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And who is that Lennon-guy?

Dunno, he never belonged to them. ~:handball:
12-10-2005, 04:07
Devastatin Dave

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Originally Posted by AdrianII

You should have been here when Jacques Derrida or Yasser Arafat died. There was little sympathy shown, no quarter given. This is the backroom, Soulforged. If you can't stand the heat...

Well, there is a difference between John Lennon and a filthy terrorist bastard like Arafat, even you have to agree with me on this, but then again...
12-10-2005, 04:10
Reverend Joe

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Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat

Wow, who are all those medieval musicians in those black-and-white pictures?

And who is that Lennon-guy?

:stunned: *erk* :skull:
12-10-2005, 04:12
Byzantine Prince

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Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat

Wow, who are all those medieval musicians in those black-and-white pictures?

And who is that Lennon-guy?

Just some Nobodies.
12-10-2005, 04:15
Strike For The South

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Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince

You are prick AdrianII. What can I do though, I cannot stop you. I can only join you. Here's the group that defined MY generation:

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see now thats just sad. A bunch of homos who scream the definig band. Thank god for country and bluegrass and TEXAS
12-10-2005, 04:15
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

Well, there is a difference between John Lennon and a filthy terrorist bastard like Arafat, even you have to agree with me on this, but then again...

See what I mean, Soulforged?

Thanks for the object lesson, Dave. ~;)
12-10-2005, 04:17
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by strike for the south

see now thats just sad. A bunch of homos who scream the definig band. Thank god for country and bluegrass and TEXAS

Yup, I'll take the Bluegrass Clodhoppers over Manson anytime. ~:cheers:

Yeehaw!
12-10-2005, 04:21
Soulforged

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Originally Posted by AdrianII

You should have been here when Jacques Derrida or Yasser Arafat died. There was little sympathy shown, no quarter given. This is the backroom, Soulforged. If you can't stand the heat...

Oh but I can...that's what I said this was funny. However you'll have to agree that this is an aniversary thread.
If you want criticism then I shall say to you that the best band of those times was Deep Purple, by a long shot, that improvised song...I think it was "Speed King", WOW, I mean I've seen actors improvise, but musicians, at that level?~:eek:

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Originally Posted by Dave

Well, there is a difference between John Lennon and a filthy terrorist bastard like Arafat, even you have to agree with me on this, but then again...

Is there? No seriously...~:confused:
12-10-2005, 04:23
Adrian II

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*pictures Arafat playing the ukulele*
12-10-2005, 04:34
Gawain of Orkeny

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Egomanical was the term I'd choose. John Lennnon onnly cared about the wants and needs of one person, John Lennon. It was always the vibe I got off him in interviews.

This is the biggest load of crap ever posted on these boards. Lennons big care was for humanity. He cared for everyone in fact it seeemed to be his purpose in life to try to make things better for the average man. Just listen to the lyrics of his songs. There wasnt a more caring man on the face of the earth.

Some people here should be ashamed . Bashing a man who cared so much for humanity and gave us the greatest music in the history of the world.

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He didn't even look after his own kid,

Yes the kid grew up poor and neglected. How about all of Jaggers kids? Is there even a counting of them and the women who had them? The guy was a friggin mucscian during the 60s. They all more women than they knew what to do with.

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he was too busy screwing around, taking LSD, writing bad songs and sucking up to an Indian in a skirt.
Change the world?
Please...

Meanwhile, back in the sixties, real men were making real music.

Bad songs? And what Indian is this? The beatles are the greateest group in history and Lennon was their leader. If not for the Beatles many of the groupd you mentioned may well never have made it. You really need some musical history lessons here. The Beatles were musical geniuses and are compared today to Beethoven and other great classical composers. Many of you here it seems lack class and taste. Other than that I love all the other groups you mentioned but they dont hold a candle to the Beatles.
12-10-2005, 04:36
Byzantine Prince

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Originally Posted by AdrianII

Yup, I'll take the Bluegrass Clodhoppers over Manson anytime. ~:cheers:

Yeehaw!

WOW, you really hate talent don't you?

You are sad. First Lennon and now M.Manson. Who's next ? Elvis?
12-10-2005, 04:40
Seamus Fermanagh

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This whole thread has me humming Don MacLean's signature song. ~:rolleyes:

Thanks a lot...now I'll never get to sleep you collective pack of twerps!

~;) D
12-10-2005, 04:41
Steppe Merc

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John, RIP. While I hate Yoko, he was a great enough guy to get around the fact, and his music is incredible. I just hope people will realize what a great musician he was and stop listening to evil music...

~:grouphug:
12-10-2005, 04:52
Proletariat

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

This is the biggest load of crap ever posted on these boards. Lennons big care was for humanity. He cared for everyone in fact it seeemed to be his purpose in life to try to make things better for the average man. Just listen to the lyrics of his songs. There wasnt a more caring man on the face of the earth.

Unfreakingbelievable.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Some people here should be ashamed . Bashing a man who cared so much for humanity and gave us the greatest music in the history of the world.

Alot of people care about alot of things. If I don't agree with the second part of your statement, why would I care about the first? I personally would rather listen to a guitar being hit with a cat than to the Beatles.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Yes the kid grew up poor and neglected. How about all of Jaggers kids? Is there even a counting of them and the women who had them? The guy was a friggin mucscian during the 60s. They all more women than they knew what to do with.

So Mick is being used as the standard role model for fathers these days? At least Jagger wasn't sanctimonous about his role. Sheesh.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Bad songs? And what Indian is this? The beatles are the greateest group in history and Lennon was their leader. If not for the Beatles many of the groupd you mentioned may well never have made it. You really need some musical history lessons here. The Beatles were musical geniuses and are compared today to Beethoven and other great classical composers. Many of you here it seems lack class and taste. Other than that I love all the other groups you mentioned but they dont hold a candle to the Beatles.

I don't understand how someone like you could get so emotionally charged over something so obviously subjective.

This reminds me of all the imbeciles in my middle school who wore black for months after Kurt Cobain died. Yeah, Teen Spirit was catchy, but so is Sherri Lewis's Song That Never Ends.

If you liked his music, say you like his music. Let's not pretend this is the anniversary of Mother Theresa's death.
12-10-2005, 04:56
Steppe Merc

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Cobain didn't help folks. Lennon did. So did Harrison, with his Concert for Bangladesh. I fail to see how it is so alien for you people to realize that musicians can help, and many do.

Damn it, you've made me return to the backroom. I thought I had escaped... ~:mecry:
12-10-2005, 04:56
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Yes the kid grew up poor and neglected. How about all of Jaggers kids?

They didn't. And even if they did, he wouldn't be a sanctimonious closet revolutionary about it.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

And what Indian is this?

My, I can see you know your classics. Ever heard of the Mahareshi?

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

The Beatles were musical geniuses and are compared today to Beethoven and other great classical composers.

So is 50 cent, depending on who you believe. ~:rolleyes:
12-10-2005, 05:00
Adrian II

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Originally Posted by Proletariat

Unfreakingbelievable.

You better freakinbelieve it, my lady, Lennon liked to think he was more popular than Jezus... BTW I see we simultaneously used the word sanctifreakinmonious whilst opposing Jagger to Lennon. ~;p
12-10-2005, 05:07
Proletariat

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Originally Posted by AdrianII

You better freakinbelieve it, my lady, Lennon liked to think he was more popular than Jezus... BTW I see we simultaneously used the word sanctifreakinmonious whilst opposing Jagger to Lennon. ~;p

I was about to type the same before I read this. Pretentious seemed to carry too little weight for a musician with this ego.

If you'll excuse me, I have to go calm myself down with Chopin's nocturne op.55 (personal favorite) and another shot of Patron.
12-10-2005, 05:12
lars573

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Originally Posted by Steppe Merc

Cobain didn't help folks. Lennon did. So did Harrison, with his Concert for Bangladesh. I fail to see how it is so alien for you people to realize that musicians can help, and many do.

Damn it, you've made me return to the backroom. I thought I had escaped... ~:mecry:

Musicians don't "help", they just manipulate others in to "helping". It's called the power of celebrity. Also Cobain killed himself/was murdered before he was 30, where as Lennon was 40 when he died. Cobain never had a chance to get to 30 and start to evalutate his life the way Lennon did.

I never really disliked the beatles or Lennons music. What turns me off is the personalities, especially Lennons. He was an asshole, his bigger than Jesus crack was his assholery showing through. Ever see the clip of his apology, his tone and body language are of a man who really didn't want to do it. And that though his remark was nothing.

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