The United Nations: Great peacekeeping organization or horrible failure?

Anyway whats with all this namby pamby liberal rubbish against slavery? Slavery is good , slavery is right , it says so in the bible .

what???
the abolitionists went against the Bible?

Scandalous!!!!!!!!!

Scandalous!!!!!!!!!
Well look at a picture of John Brown , he has really mad eyes , definately a sign that he is in league with Beelzebub , that big beard is just part of his taliban disguise to fool the true believers .

No, big beards are just an indication of religious conviction.

or membership of the Dubliners...

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Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff

are there no lambs left that you have had to move onto cows?!

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Heh, mate, this chitchat can go on eternally but I think we should stop derailing :san_wink:

true, you probably have some slaving to do whilst the UN turns a blind eye (re-railed I hope).

but I think we should stop derailing
Why , whats the railing going to do if we don't stop it , its only sitting there marking the boundry . It is no threat unless you jump on it or get your head stuck in it .

this a UN thread, we should keep it on track and unprejudiced(:san_grin: ), just like the UN, that's why we are rerailing.

Appearances and all that.

We'll throw some aid at you in the hope of you not derailing us.

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

Kaiser, you have serious, dried-mud-stuck problems with Turks. I offer you to start writing proper nouns with capital letters like "T". If you expect any contribution, that needs at least a pinch of respect - despite the fact that you already claimed this topic about "bashing".

UN is like uniting all plants in order to maintain the peace & love kingdom on earth. No use at all. They watched Bosnians getting torn apart.

'Nuff contribution for such another thread that reveals another thing about Turks. Did you also know that we enslaved some Martians and planted them as spies in USA to twaddle around ?

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You can't deny that in your past, Turkey has done some horrible, horrible things, as I won't deny that in the past, the US, Germany, Italy, and hell, even Austria has done some horrible horrible things. My main problem with the Turks is, unlike Germany/Italy/Austria, they refuse to admit to it. Instead, they open up Turkish food joints in Germany like Ali Babbas that has very good food, but nontheless, refuses to admit to their past.

The US kept slavery for way to long, all nations did, but didn't we spill enough blood over it? Why should we pay more than the European nations who brought them here, or nations like North Korea and Sudan that still uses slaves?

Oh, and dude who said heath thing, here's a cookie. Sugar cookie, my favorite. Enjoy.

Still, that's one good for 104890184872978489198547E^5982374837 bad. And that's not that much of an exaggeration.

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You can't deny that in your past, Turkey has done some horrible, horrible things,

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Horrible, horrible slavery ? You remember that in this topic you brought up the invention of the idea that claims Turks starting the slavery, right ? You must admit that you sometimes make horrible, horrible mistakes.

P.S. One more thing, it's just annoying to drive in Turkish food stuff to balance your horrible, horrible baseless accusations. That's not a kid fight after all. Your whole post looks a lot better without that "Turkish food is good" BS.

I think UN has done a great job despite the fact that its just a compromise between a bunch of self righteous states who don't want anything else than oppose them selves upon the rest of the world...... ~;)

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

P.S. One more thing, it's just annoying to drive in Turkish food stuff to balance your horrible, horrible baseless accusations. That's not a kid fight after all. Your whole post looks a lot better without that "Turkish food is good" BS.

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Well, dispite your murder of countless innocent civilians, maybe the Ottomans rape of Eastern Europe was just perfectly fine, eh?

Oh, and I figure, if I'm going to bash a nation, I have to say something nice. And honestly, not that many things when it comes to Turkey. Most of the people are nice, and they have nice food.

EDIT: Don't give me any of your non-documentation crap either.
http://www.hellenicgenocide.org/index.html
http://www.greece.org/genocide/
http://www.diamandagalas.com/defixio...kSeptember.htm
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/
http://www.theforgotten.org/intro.html
http://www.cilicia.com/armo10.html
http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armeni.../genocide.html
http://www.aua.net/assyrian_genocide.htm
http://members.fortunecity.com/fstav...ians_1915.html
http://aanf.org/America/assyrians/as..._christian.htm

You got your answer times and times in a documented way. I remember no replies after I posted all answers to your "Favorite Links" collection.

I see no reason to frustrate you with the truth. Because I have over and over proved out that things are not the way you are told by liars. Have fun with your links, bookmark this, enthusiastic boy :san_smiley:

Before more munitions are discharged, let me just put up my two cents.

Some have said that the UN is for discussing stuff peacefully without going to war. Has anyone read the UN charter?

First sentance of the charter, Chapter 1:

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Originally Posted by UN Charter

To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace.

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Click here. Chapters can be referenced in the leftmost panel.

How does one remove a threat to the peace, like say, Iran? Certainly not by being nice and nambly-pambly. At some point, after reasoned debate, if a nonviolent solution cannot be found, force becomes necessary.

Back to battle!

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EDITED to sound less jerk-like

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

You got your answer times and times in a documented way. I remember no replies after I posted all answers to your "Favorite Links" collection.

I see no reason to frustrate you with the truth. Because I have over and over proved out that things are not the way you are told by liars. Have fun with your links, bookmark this, enthusiastic boy :san_smiley:

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If anyone is the liar, it is you and all your countrymen. Most other nations live with the guilt of their crimes for generations after it happened, your nation, on the other hand, pretends it never happened. Disgusting, if you ask me.

Ok, genious, where did all the Macedonian and Anatolian greeks go?

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Before Kaiser is attacked again, let me just put up my two cents.
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Please go back to fighting Kaiser.

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I have to remind you that I have the right -as being a member of this forum and through natural consequence of being a member of a forum- to appeal some idea. You sound provocation, please stop that.

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Ok, genious, where did all the Macedonian and Anatolian greeks go?

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They died - like anyone else did in medieval times.

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If anyone is the liar, it is you and all your countrymen. Most other nations live with the guilt of their crimes for generations after it happened, your nation, on the other hand, pretends it never happened. Disgusting, if you ask me.

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Ahem ! You're interacting with me - not my all countrymen. I ban you from such a generalisation although you do not hesitate to do it usually. May you keep on "playing" it only with me.

Briefly, Greek genocide never happened - distinguish "war" and "systematic ethnic cleansing", Armenian genocide was the attack phase of a conflict that dismisses it from being a "genocide" -distinguish "war" and "systematic ethnic cleansing" for the second time. I do not even take Assyrian stuff into consideration that it's just a brand new invention of anti-Turk-o-maniacs and anti-Turk-o-philiacs.

This topic is about UN, Turks did not invent the slavery, you are like a Matrix Ragdoll that tries to dodge his false claims and drive the focus to "Genocide stuff" everytime something about Turks is mentioned and when you feel "naked".

If I were a Netherlands Antillean member of The Org, I would swear to both of us so hard since this neverending debate is overly repeated and no rational outcome is ever gathered. This is getting boring and I'm pretty sick with being involved in the same-scene fights where people believe what they want to.

Now let my way out of this topic.:san_angry:

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

I have to remind you that I have the right -as being a member of this forum and through natural consequence of being a member of a forum- to appeal some idea. You sound provocation, please stop that.



They died - like anyone else did in medieval times.



Ahem ! You're interacting with me - not my all countrymen. I ban you from such a generalisation although you do not hesitate to do it usually. May you keep on "playing" it only with me.

Briefly, Greek genocide never happened - distinguish "war" and "systematic ethnic cleansing", Armenian genocide was the attack phase of a conflict that dismisses it from being a "genocide" -distinguish "war" and "systematic ethnic cleansing" for the second time. I do not even take Assyrian stuff into consideration that it's just a brand new invention of anti-Turk-o-maniacs and anti-Turk-o-philiacs.

This topic is about UN, Turks did not invent the slavery, you are like a Matrix Ragdoll that tries to dodge his false claims and drive the focus to "Genocide stuff" everytime something about Turks is mentioned and when you feel "naked".

If I were a Netherlands Antillean member of The Org, I would swear to both of us so hard since this neverending debate is overly repeated and no rational outcome is ever gathered. This is getting boring and I'm pretty sick with being involved in the same-scene fights where people believe what they want to.

Now let my way out of this topic.:san_angry:

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The holocost was part of a war, does that mean it wasn't a genocide?

LEN - I never said your verbal broadsides with Kaiser were wrong or unfounded - really, I have no comment on that exchange.

I apologize for sounding defensive on Kaiser's behalf. :san_lipsrsealed:

EDIT: I changed my previous post to reflect my non-aggression towards you.

My only thoughts concerning the United Nations that is revelant for this thread comes from another thread.

The United Nations has failed in its responsiblities and its accountablity for the little authority it has - and has marginalized itself by its own inaction.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

The holocost was part of a war, does that mean it wasn't a genocide?

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It was a systematic cleansing.

We fought against the Greeks (or Byzantinians) over these lands, you remember who were living once in Asia Minor and who came from Middle Asia for invasion ?

Armenians killed 518.000 Turks in total in the Eastern Anatolia, their murder (counts around 400.000), while migration to Syria was obliged, was an act of revenge. Ever wondered why they were obliged to move ?

But Jews never attacked or invaded Germany in an organized and united way, right?

"Distinguish" means, put this here and put that apart.

P.S. AlexPG, I bow before your sensitivity. You may of course defend another member's ideas. I just perceived yours being provocative. Though I really tried to sound fine, sorry if I sounded any harsh while warning you ~:)

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

It was a systematic cleansing.

We fought against the Greeks (or Byzantinians) over these lands, you remember who were living once in Asia Minor and who came from Middle Asia for invasion ?

Armenians killed 518.000 Turks in total in the Eastern Anatolia, their murder (counts around 400.000), while migration to Syria was obliged, was an act of revenge. Ever wondered why they were obliged to move ?

But Jews never attacked or invaded Germany in an organized and united way, right?

"Distinguish" means, put this here and put that apart.

P.S. AlexPG, I bow before your sensitivity. You may of course defend another member's ideas. I just perceived yours being provocative. Though I really tried to sound fine, sorry if I sounded any harsh while warning you ~:)

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Uh, the Byzantines lived in Aetolia first, Turks come from the area around Persia AFAIK. You moved in, and since you took a grand total of 100 casualties fighting them, murdered over a million of them. Good job!

Why are you arguing over what was done 1000+ years ago? why should the actions of your long gone relatives cause YOU any guilt? I can understand talking about what was done 50, maybe 100 years ago, but the middles ages???

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Originally Posted by mongoose

Why are you arguing over what was done 1000+ years ago? why should the actions of your long gone relatives cause YOU any guilt? I can understand talking about what was done 50, maybe 100 years ago, but the middles ages???

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Hellenic and Armenian was 1895-1955 approx.

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Uh, the Byzantines lived in Aetolia first, Turks come from the area around Persia AFAIK. You moved in, and since you took a grand total of 100 casualties fighting them, murdered over a million of them. Good job!

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Ok boy ok. I see no way to praise our warrior qualities - that means we fight well in "war"s.

I talked about the total route Turks followed until they reached their last and the ever homeland Anatolia. Those who came from around Persia were from Middle Asia.

P.S. Nice calculator of yours ~;)

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Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Hellenic and Armenian was 1895-1955 approx.

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No that was 1955-2005. We'll try to continue for another 50 years.

*Slashes..Blood spills all over place..*

P.S. mongoose, i'm sick and tired of it as well.

P.S.S. That describes a lot. I just saw it in Zanderpants sig.

"Tell a lie enough times, and it becomes truth."
~Joseph Goebbels

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

P.S. mongoose, i'm sick and tired of it as well.

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Don't start something you cannot finish, then.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

Hellenic and Armenian was 1895-1955 approx.

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But weren't you just talking about the byzantines in that last post? My point being that it dsoen't really matter who lived there years ago. Same goes for the native americans, IMO...

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Originally Posted by mongoose

But weren't you just talking about the byzantines in that last post? My point being that it dsoen't really matter who lived there years ago. Same goes for the native americans, IMO...

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He said Turks lived there before the Greeks. The greeks lived their since anceint times untill just recently when they were murdered and forced out.

KOA:

I didn't take any side in this argument. People can't break me if i don't have a spine. :hide: I just stated that debates on historical events don't really have any place in this thread*. Now, if you'll excuse me, i have to go to sleep.........:sleep:


*Looking back, I'm not sure that it was a such a good arguement now. i semed like such a good idea in my head.....

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Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

*Slashes..Blood spills all over place..*

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HA! I knew you couldn't resist. And now I have written proof. :san_tongue: