I don't remember Jesus saying anything against gay marriage. Enlighten me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kataphraktoi
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I don't remember Jesus saying anything against gay marriage. Enlighten me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kataphraktoi
he wan't bigoted, he hung out with tax collectors who back then were considered traiters, he saved the life of an adulterous woman and helped romansQuote:
Originally Posted by kataphraktoi
this tv show seems like the latest in a long line of attacks against chritianity by people with an axe to grind. The world is full of it and it should be totally unacceptable it would be if they were targetting muslims, Jew, Gay people, in fact any race, creed, religious group or political group.
the fact is many of these attacks are self contradictory one minuite christians supposedly don't take their faith seriously as it seems is suggested in this tv show and the next we are brainwashed, deluded, miniuons out for war although they never say when jesus supposedly said this, But then who wouldn't fear a group whos golden rules are: love God ,and each other Terrifying! :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Shows like this should be allowed. But that goes both ways: If Someone wants to say something bad about muslims, then they have the right to say it, as long as there aren't any threats ofcourse.
Edit: When will I learn to proof read my posts?
Erm...has anyone actually seen parts of the show before commenting on how Christianity is such a poor, poor victim of butcherization? (I know perfectly well that is an invented word.)
Because if they do, then their opinions has a base, and I'll concede an axe for free.
And I'm getting tired of people complaining how (Jesus!) Christianity is being so unfairly attacked compare to peer institutions. The more they complain about that, the less valid that point is (which is actually rather valid at the start, considering the PC crowd that somehow infiltrated every single institution in the world lately...I think it's the Free Masons at work! :laugh4: ) I don't think I have ever been unfair in my share of criticism: my opinion has always been to allow you to criticize anything you want until you cross that line of harming others for your opinion. Heck, I criticize Buddhism, one of the least-criticized religions in the world.
Christianity is one of the largest power bases in the world. It has spread throughout the world imposing its morals and rules. Am I exaggerating? Read the history of postwar Japan, which is not even a Christian nation. You'll see how the society was re-formed under Christian values.
I have little sympathy for that political institution, just as I have little sympathy for an aristocracy that is criticized and ridiculed by the powerless.
This idea of a "war on Christianity" is absurd. They whole society of the US is flavored with Christian values, including Christian celebrations that are official national holidays, which can't be said for the celebrations of any other religion here. Calvary crosses are everywhere, even on federal land on two mountaintops in San Diego County. There are abundant churches in every community and popular media abounds with Christmas/Easter stories, biblical epics, Johnny Hart comics, and Davy and Goliath.
Islam is far more slandered, marginalized, and misunderstood in the US.
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Originally Posted by Tachikaze
actually he did.
seeing as how he basically told Adam and Eve to have sex so the earth would be fruitful and multiply (which you can't do in same sex relationships) and he constituted marriage as a bond of one flesh, so that the two in question will be fruitful and multiply. Seeing as how you can't reproduce in same-sex marriages I think god did say something about it.
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Originally Posted by Tachikaze
say that to the public schools here in Jasper.
the Christians didn't get off for Christmas but the Muslims sure got off for Rammadan
jasper where? can you be more specific?
this sounds like something that is easy to verify, to see if this is true or if you're just posting falseties.
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Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
There is a huge difference between the Old Testament God [Wrath] and the New Testament Jesus [Love].Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
I would like to see a passage where Jesus attacks any group other then those in power attacking as hypocrites.
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Originally Posted by solypsist
Indiana, or somewhere else in the state of Indiana, I'm homeschooled and I don't remember which one it was but it happened trust me
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Originally Posted by Papewaio
dude, their the same thing.
anybody who knows have a pile of crap about what their talking about when they talk about Christianity knows that
One. Don't be so rude.
Two. Jesus brings in a whole new attitude to the Hebrew God. It would help if you compare and contrast the OT vs NT versions of God. One is very violent the other a hippy. Its like comparing Arnie vs Elmo.
Three. There is no place in the New Testament that Jesus attacks anyone, bar turning over the tables of vendors in the temple.
Yes, jesus says in the bible how he has come to rid Judaism of the incorrect teachings that have been added by people (i believe that he says somthing about uprooting the 'plants' of false teachings)Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
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Originally Posted by Papewaio
there are three parts of god
The Father (Jealous god an full of wrath)
The Son ( Peaceful Caring Part)
The Ghost (Nuertrality)
there is only one god but there is three parts of him, it's kind of like schizophrenia but the three all kive in harmony as the same god.
a god that can be full of wrath and anger at one person and then turn around and be the kindest person on earth at another
Tis a funny thing. The king of family values, FOX, kind of went AWOL here in Holland, as in A W(H)OLE LOT OF PORN starting from 9:30. I wonder what John Gibson has to say about that.
Well, we can end the speculation now. I saw the show in the weekend. Actually, that's not entirely true. My wife was watching it while I was cooking dinner, so I caught only bits and pieces of it. From what I saw, my opinion stands: all this show did was portray Christians as real people with real (if slightly outlandish) life problems, coping with them the best they could. Yes, Jesus was portrayed as a bit of a smart-arse, but he was still portrayed as a forgiving, loving Jesus, only slightly more up to date that he was in the time of the Romans.
I made a point of asking my wife (she is quite a devout Catholic) how she felt about how Jesus and Christians were portrayed in the show. She said that if Jesus were here today, that is what she would imagine, and even hope, that he would be like.
Anyone else see the show? Impressions?
Alas I work swing shift - so I am unable to watch much primetime TV if I was so inclined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
If you go to the Website for the show - you can see the comments of the different types of viewers. (The link is available in a previous post)
Some of the responses are rather sad if you ask me, typical unthinking responses from both sides.
Well eventually I will take a Friday off - if the show is still around I might take a view of it to see if the show is as anti-Christian as some are making it out to be.
However right now I just don't see it. Much ado about nothing seems to be the gest that I am getting right now.
No TIVO or VCR Redleg?
my mom and dad watched it and they called it the biggest pun on Christianity in world history
Wow, what a weak god you described! This sounds nothing like the onmipresent, omniscient creator of the universe that would be more befitting. How can an all-powerful creator of the universe have emotions!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
The god you described sounds like a very human, spoiled brat or a manic-depressive. It sounds like one of the Greco-Roman gods, especially Zeus/Jupiter.
Since I believe Jesus was a man and God is not, we have no common ground to discuss this topic.
No desire to record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Then they have obviously never seen (in no particular order):Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
1) The Life of Brian
2) Bruce Almighty
3) Any of the Oh God movies
4) Heaven Can Wait
5) Angels in the Outfield
6) Dogma
7) Various episodes of South Park
8) Various episodes of Family Guy
9) Any episode of The 700 Club
I could probably go on if I wanted to bother Googling the topic, but those are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head.
At any rate, I disagree with your parents.
"8) Various episodes of Family Guy"
At the risk of getting people mad by posting the same link too much...
Example:http://media.putfile.com/North_by_North_Quahog_pt2
Wasn't Family Guy already cancelled?
I'm not sure why people are botherd by shows that make fun of Christians or other groups. It's not as if people are gonig to watch one of these shows and start thinking that Jesus spent most of his time fighting gangsters or going on car chases with a street smart black partner...
Edit: I need to start proof reading my posts.
I can certainly see why some Christians would be offended by the stuff on TV...Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoose
PS: Family Guy -- Overrated ~D
Fixed. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
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Originally Posted by Goofball
we watched 2, 5, and a couple of 8, my dad saw 7 but the rest we haven't watched.
and Bruce Almighty wasn't a pun on christianity, it was god giving a few of his powers to an otherwise mortal person to show him how hard his job was, Family Guy SUCKED, South Park trailers SUCK, and Angels in the outfield? everyone at my church loves it, I haven't watched it myself but from what I've read it's just some angels from heaven helping out the angels from anaheim
Really? So you didn't find the fact that the movie portrayed the majority of Christians as mammon-hungry, lucre-driven people who prayed to God not for world peace or the end of hunger, but instead for the winning lottery numbers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
I have just been pwned. The breadth and depth of your analyses leave me gawking in stunned admiration. I particularly admire the fact that you are able to provide such an in depth critique of a show after having only seen the trailers. I doff my hat to you sir...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1
So a show portraying Jesus as a helping a preacher with life problems he is struggling with is a mockery of Christianity, but a show portraying heavenly angels as having nothing better to do with their time (in our amazingly in-need-of-help world) than helping a baseball team win a penant does not mock Christianity whatsoever.
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I'll admit, some good moments, like "the only straight cop in Quahog" :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by AntiochusIII
But gah, if I've ever seen a more unambiguous Simpsons clone....
But I digress...
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So a show portraying Jesus as a helping a preacher with life problems he is struggling with is a mockery of Christianity, but a show portraying heavenly angels as having nothing better to do with their time (in our amazingly in-need-of-help world) than helping a baseball team win a penant does not mock Christianity whatsoever.
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helping? according to my Parents Jesus didn't do A SINGLE THING that is biblicaly correct
Does this statement undermined the whole base of christian belief?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanemerkel1