A true Butchered job on the national Anthem

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Nope. I always wondered why everyone thought it was a worldwide event, too, if only Yank teams can get the chance to participate. I don't know about the stats about it being the biggest event on TV ever year, but I imagine something soccer-related outdoes it.

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Its telecast around the world. Its by far the most watched thing on american TV.

From CNN

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The Super Bowl is often the most-watched TV program each year, and nine of the
15 highest-rated shows in history are NFL championship games. ...

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Its always way up there.

I have no doubt its not as popular in the rest of the world. But it commands a huge audience here alone . I dont think even the world cup final draws as many viewers though I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

What is this, "close your post with your favorite truism" day?

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No. I'm just saying that the song has no intrinsic value and people shouldn't get so worked up when some no-talent douchebag butchers it.

Gawain, I don't see the connection between it being a popular event and it being the time 'bring out the best'. The World Cup probably does draw more viewers, though. USA's population can't really hold a candle to the rest of the world's totalled up.

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USA's population can't really hold a candle to the rest of the world's totalled up.

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Well it can in tv watching. Probably on the Japanese watch more tv than us.

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The World Cup probably does draw more viewers, though.

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Would be nice if we could find the figures to compare the two.

Scraped this up from the FIFA site.

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The cumulative audience over the 25 match days of the 2002 event reached a total of 28.8 billion viewers.

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Oh my gad.

Also, I found a page where our little debate is answered.

Ouch.

Im afraid it doesnt. You and they are comparing one gane with a whole series.

I want the stats on the final game only vs the superbowl.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Im afraid it doesnt. You and they are comparing one gane with a whole series.

I want the stats on the final game only vs the superbowl.

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There are 64 games played in the World Cup. 28.8 billion divided by 64 does indeed equal 450 million. Even if we assume that the final game wasn't more popular than all of the others (which is silly), then the World cup viewership still rapes the Superbowl viewership in every hole.

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Originally Posted by GoreBag

There are 64 games played in the World Cup. 28.8 billion divided by 64 does indeed equal 450 million. Even if we assume that the final game wasn't more popular than all of the others (which is silly), then the World cup viewership still rapes the Superbowl viewership in every hole.

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Are there two world cups? Because your site says

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Footnote: we checked the FIFA World Cup site and they report that the viewership for the 2002 World Cup exceeded 1 billion.

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Thats a long way from 28 billion. I couldnt find a reference there to 28 billion.

It also says

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The World Cup draws from the entire globe and an audience in the hundreds of millions.

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Now which is it?

You are mixing up the total viewership vs. the viewership in only 18 countries (notably excluded: Germany, Italy, England, France) monitored by Nielsen Media Research.

For the former, the number for the 2002 World Cup was 28.8 billion. Source:

http://www.fifa.com/en/marketing/new...509,10,00.html

For the latter, the number for the 2002 World Cup was 1.5 billion. Source:

http://www.nielsenmedia.com/newsrele...dCup_Final.htm

The 2006 Superbowl, OTOH, attracted about 91 million viewers. Source:

http://www.magid.com/publications/ma...articleID=1366

You need to give this one up G, you're only going to look silly. Face it my friend: Soccer (Football) is globally more popular than American Football any way you slice it.

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You need to give this one up G, you're only going to look silly. Face it my friend: Soccer (Football) is globally more popular than American Football any way you slice it.

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I never claimed otherwise. My only question was whether the fianl game out drew the superbowl. It all started because I claimed the superbowl was a worldwide event . Which it is. I didnt say it was the most popular. I asked.

I was talking of it being by far the most popular show on in the US. I also dont think you will find any country where more people watched the world cup final than of americans who watched the superbowl. I again merely specualted it might beat the world cup finals. I didnt insist upon it. Then you come in saying I was pawned for asking.

Who knew that there were that many tv sets in the world? Ferdinand Braun would be so proud (wonder if he was a footie fan?).

On topic: GoreBag: Aretha Franklin flubbed that anthem bit... no argument; her worst gig ever, without doubt.

But she is no 'douchebag'.

I require your gentlemanly satisfaction, Sir.

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I require your gentlemanly satisfaction, Sir.

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Would some R E S P E C T for Aretha do?

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

I say as long as they can sing Let Whitney and Mariah take turns. No one has voices like these two.

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And thank God for that ! :2thumbsup:

I'm sure there are plenty of people who love their country but think their anthem worthless, even in the State which actually has a decent anthem.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

I never claimed otherwise. My only question was whether the fianl game out drew the superbowl. It all started because I claimed the superbowl was a worldwide event . Which it is. I didnt say it was the most popular. I asked.

I was talking of it being by far the most popular show on in the US. I also dont think you will find any country where more people watched the world cup final than of americans who watched the superbowl. I again merely specualted it might beat the world cup finals. I didnt insist upon it. Then you come in saying I was pawned for asking.

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It only worldwide in the same sense that cricket is. In that a few places play it and everyone else, apart from enthusiasts, wonder what all the fuss is about.

Edit: Thinking about it, cricket may be more international in the sense that more internationals are played. Though it cannot compete on TV viewer figures worldwide.

Mariah Carey annoys me.

Nothing against her talent as a singer, and she certainly does NOT sour milk with her looks just by staring in that direction, but....

Because of her and her success, EVERY singer feels the need to use vibrato and or scat notes in EVERY passage of EVERY song....AAAARGH.

A little Ella for scat or Mariah now and again is fine, but too much emulation is NOT a good thing.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

On topic: GoreBag: Aretha Franklin flubbed that anthem bit... no argument; her worst gig ever, without doubt.

But she is no 'douchebag'.

I require your gentlemanly satisfaction, Sir.

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Well, it was a generalisation, even though I'm no fan. But you've made your case; I agree. Pistols at dawn.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

For my taste, my two favorite renditions of The Star-Spangled banner were:

1) 2003 Superbowl, Dixie Chicks. Listen to it here:
https://jimcee.homestead.com/SpartanTotalWarrior.html
3-part harmony done expertly, with a minimum of 'grace notes'.

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I find this rendition strikingly beautiful. Moving even.

I've never been a great fan of the Star Spangled Banner music-wise, with it's awkward rhythm and those opening notes that sound like a jingle a supermarket would play just before announcing today's offers. But this version is truly great.

And to think these Dixie Chicks are a Country band. ~:eek:

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

And to think these Dixie Chicks are a Country band. ~:eek:

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hey dont say something you cant take back later

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Originally Posted by Goofball

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He would be if soccer wasn't boring, with the exceptions of when the German, Austrian, or Italian teams are playing, then soccers fun. So are the riots.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

He would be if soccer wasn't boring, with the exceptions of when the German, Austrian, or Italian teams are playing, then soccers fun. So are the riots.

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He was talking about viewing figures, not how interesting Kaiser thinks the game is! So the horrible net-speak stands.

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Originally Posted by GoreBag

Well, it was a generalisation, even though I'm no fan. But you've made your case; I agree. Pistols at dawn.

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:)

:laugh4: Very politic.

There I was at dawn (0615), fog clearing from the trees.

The moist, humid earth giving up its daily offering of scent of eucalyptus, moss and good earth to the rising sun, perhaps presaging the aromas too soon to greet the nostrils of the hapless loser of our encounter of honour.

My second at my beck, guarding the specified weapons encased in their plastic mausoleum, stamped and shuffled his feet, worried about being discovered on this field of honour by contemporary gendarmes.

"Sir", he asked, "What precisely is a douchebag?"

"A bad thing, Jeeves, a very bad thing. A container of ejected bodily fluids. An insult to such a sensitive thing as a woman." I answered distractedly, cocking my head to catch the sound of approaching footsteps - no, just a frisky gopher, I decided.

"I see."

"Yes."

"Sir?"

"Yes?"

"What, precisely, is a Gore Bag?"

"A Gore Bag, you ask? Why it's an imaginary container, used by imaginary creatures called Orcs, to carry souvenir body parts of their vanquished enemies."

"I see."

"Yes."

"So this GoreBag fellow, given his stated cultural background of being a person who hauls hither-and-yon an imaginary container of his imaginary vanquished enemy's body parts...might have actually been paying Ms. Franklin a compliment by dubbing her a douchbag, given his own bag-carrying regime?"

"Erk?"

"Yes, Sir. Perhaps the gentleman merely suggests that Mizz Franklin's singing at the event at issue, has so moved him, that he feels compelled, nay, duty-drawn to offer an appellation of that which he so values: his bag. And to make it gender-appropriate.

"Ya think?"

"I do, Sir."

"Very well, then. Pack it up, if you please. Let's see if we can still catch breakfast at McDonald's."

"Aye, Sir."

"Jeeves."

"Sir?"

"What about his 14-hours later post?"

"Perhaps the gentleman lives in Kabul?"

"Right. Let's go. I got shotgun!"

"As always, Sir."

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"What, precisely, is a Gore Bag?"

"A Gore Bag, you ask? Why it's an imaginary container, used by imaginary creatures called Orcs, to carry souvenir body parts of their vanquished enemies."

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