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I think that the Testudo bug used by some Urbans would beat the Spartans.
A testudoed unit when ordered to move behind a phalanx unit of equal or less 'level' will push the phalanx unit apart. It was mentioned a while ago, but I don't think it was addressed in any of the patches.
Never seen Spartans in RTW.
Athens and Corinth going to fall next. Wont belong after that and my Brutii force will seek out these so called 'tuff men'.
Screenshots will follow of dead 'tuff men'. As I play slow, real slow, it maybe a week or two though.
Eh? Aren't phalangites the people with the long Macedonian sarissa that have spears longer than the Spartans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Watchman
Phalangites in the RTW sense, which is to say able to use the phalanx formation. Although you are as such correct; by what I've read of it the Greeks weren't overly interested in carbon-copying the Mac system, meaning there were functional differences between their close-order spearmen and the Diadochi phalangites.
Yeah that's what I thought. The Macedonians had really long spears, but the Spartans had the normal hoplite spear and their famous short sword. When complaining about the length of his sword, a Spartan was told by his mother to 'take a step forward and it will be long enough'
Spartan unit (80men) routed when down to 50 men. Not that 'tuff'
https://img122.imageshack.us/img122/...66s83da.th.jpg
They didnt last long after that.
Severous.. the thing is that you massively outnumber them 692:50, and their general is dead. Normally if you take one unit against the Spartan hoplites, unless they're against very long spears or an Urban Cohort, the other unit has no chance really (in hand to hand combat).
Hi Tiberius
Ive no doubt they are tough in a 1-2-1 fight.
They were surprisingly fast when they charged wielding their swords.
They took out at least one bodyguard before they broke.
Like any elite unit they can be taken. In this case massed pila/javlin did the weakening, then numbers, general dead, from behind, cavalry did the rest.
I was a bit disappointed. I had expected the Spartan unit to suffer many more losses before they broke.
PS: RTW V1.5 H/H
My General is +2 command +1 Greek Turncoat +2 Good Defender (=5 Stars)
With all that, they've already stuck around far longer than any other unit would. Most units just run at the sight of the rest of the army.