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China is stuck in the sengoku jidai period.
And wont ever wish to leave it.
They are not a super power and aslong as they chose to abandon agriculture and Sell Pelts for profit.
It will be a LONG LONG time before the become any where near being a super power.
Eithiopia Will be a superpower before china At this rate.
Err...right. Here is the thing: we don't like needless brutality and cruelty towards animals here in the West. The demise of agrarian society here as caused animals to be viewed as more than just things. Some, such as PETA take this to extremes. But in China, as in many parts of the world, it is not seen as needless nor cruel and animals are just a commodity. Ranting about it here, or that discredited organization PETA issuing videos, will do nothing to change that. Though it is a shame that so many endangered species are killed for body parts to go in traditional, and useless, Chinese medicine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just A Girl
PS China may well become a superpower despite their "short-comings", as many see them. Also sengoku jidai is a period of history in Japan.
wait.. did someone say "fur outage"?? damnit! i better start clubbing these baby otters! supply and demand people!
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I'm with ya, John. Leave some for me.
Hmm... I feel strongly about this topic, so I'm going to ignore the fact that it's in the Backroom...
First of all I would like to say that animals are yummy... :grin3:
They are so tasty, and I am very greatful that I have a chance to eat them to on this amazing planet.
Gosh, there are just so many types of tasty animals to eat too...variety is bliss.
But because I eat them and enjoy their flavor and nutrients, I have tremendous respect for animals. Animals, unlike most humans (people like me are the exception...really :smug:), are very useful and beneficial on many aspects. We can use them for work, food, play, and there's many things they do which indirectly benefit us too, like poop (eww...dirty :tongue2:).
So it bothers me when people treat animals like this. And I'm not totally against skinning them. Though I never would wear fur (too...rainbowy), and think that women who do are decadent, I also understand that the industry is livelihood for some. But still, kill them quickly and painlessly, cut their jugular, don't bop them over the heads repeatedly, or dismember them, or inflict any type of torture. If this happened and I was in charge, you could make sure that there would be some beatdowns handed out followed by educational videos.
And I hate hunting for sport... how retarded :shout:.
I feel the same way about trees, what a magnificant wonder they are. If you gotta cut them to build a dwelling, go ahead, but at least plant another one in it's place. And stop building these ridiculously large mansions too...I hope they burn down you stiffs...
If they need this to survive whatever. Frankly I dont see who am i to tell some farmer in China how to get by. Diffrent people diffrent cultures and all that tolerance weve grown so found of.
I've seen this before, and get the feeling some of the posters didn't watch it all the way through. If this is the one I'm thinking of, the animals are still alive after skinned, tossed intoa truck, and are rolling around gasping for air and crying, right?
The killing method is done to maintain the value of the fur, not sure of maybe they eat the truckload later or something.
Either way, its stupid, inhumane and a little sadistic. Ringing a chickens neck is no big deal if its for dinner, but this is a little excessive. Really.
Culture, tradition blah. Displays like this are why I feel a little bit of happiness when I see a bull leap into a crowd and at a bull fight and start stomping people. No offense to people with fur, but its totally caveman.
its not the fact that they kill but how and why they kill. if they use the fur...no problem but kill the animal first and use everything of it. sell its flesh and make food of it (doesnt matter for what actually) its a total waste. like killing elephants for its tusk and leave the rest to rot. or to kill a tiger for a bone and leave the rest to rot...
If that video is what I think it is I won't risk watching it again, couldn't get it out of my head. If only I could get some quality time with that guy, the medieval torture thread would be a good place to gain some inspiration.
Yes. I agree it is a nasty thing to do. But he probably would not understand what the problem is, and people here are generally preaching to the converted.
who is he?, the guy who does it
He make your spicy #5.
Oh well, if this was truly rural China, them man likely has AIDS so joke is on him. Yar.
I think you may be operating under a slight misaprihension here. I believe that the animals have had their heads stoved in, in which case they're brain dead and what you actually see there is the body fitting.
Although that said the dog with its skin off looks quite alive. Done properly you can kill an animal without breaking the skin and be very humane. It only takes one blow to the head, two to make sure, and they're dead; though the heart still beats the brain is mush. They do fit though, which looks terrrible.
Just a Girl, in answer to your question Innuits survive exclusivly through hunting and killing animals and it has been shown that western cerel based foods will often make them quite ill.
As to wearing fur, I'd wear it to keep warm.
As to hunting for sport, as far as I'm concerned if you're hunting vermin to protect your flocks its not really sport and if you eat it its not sport. Most hunting falls into one of those catagories.
The visual formQuote:
Originally Posted by Just A Girl
You use when posting your thoughts
Makes me see poems
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Ermm..come to Michigan mate, you'll see hunting for sport...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall
Will I? Well hunting just for sport is a waste of time more than anything else IMHO.
Lol thats funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
Most see red,
then start insulting me.
How about we stand on their heads, skin them alive and then leave them to die? That should solve their hunger problem.
A situation of the pot calling the kettle black.:no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Just A Girl
Nasty video. Reminds me of a video which made the rounds on the internet a few years ago; where some east Asian wacked a few kittens on the head with a knife and proceeded to slice and dice them for a quick drop into a wok and into a few bowls with rice & veggies... yummy. People went positively ballistic over that one.
This particular video serves as a wonderful counterpoint to 'cross cultural understanding'. I believe killing animals purely for their fur or in the name of some ridiculous, homeopathic nonsense is a terrible waste but so long as they're killed swiftly and humanely I guess I don't have much of a problem with it. Consider it one of the occupational hazards of being born lower in the food chain.
On the other hand I could care less about bullfighting or the running of the bulls. Cattle have been bred by man solely for the purpose of food and goods so it's not as if they're going to waste. As to bullfighting those bulls are bred and selected for their aggressiveness so they put on a good show. On the other hand I'm also happy so long as matadors get the shaf... err, horn every once in awhile and crowds still become 'unwilling participants'.
This video also reminds me of that idiotic hunter adage about not shooting animals in the brain because it spoils the meat. I didn't realize the brain had time to release a flurry of harmful meat spoiling hormones into the bloodstream as it's being blown all over the place in a fraction of a second. Then there is that equally warped practice of slaughtering pigs by stabbing them in the heart with a long steel pole instead of simply cutting their throats. However I think that method of slaughter went out of style in southern europe decades ago.
Yeah, you will, and you're right about it being a waste of time too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall
Still, there are other things to see like snow, and lakes, and Red Wings :2thumbsup:.