Concernig War movies in general, The Thin Red Line is my favourite, a great eye opener.
The Battle of Helm in the LotR: The Two Towers is one of the greatest battle scenes, but I guess that doesn't the movie a War movie...
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Concernig War movies in general, The Thin Red Line is my favourite, a great eye opener.
The Battle of Helm in the LotR: The Two Towers is one of the greatest battle scenes, but I guess that doesn't the movie a War movie...
That will be my next film purchase thenQuote:
Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
Thanks for the info BkB
Yea, it is quite sweet. The Horseman riding down the hill with gandalf is probably the coolest scene ever. Also the battle outside of Minas Tirith in the The Return of the King, with all of the cavalry charging and the oliphants are pretty cool. Sorry if that was off topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrmidon
Doh! How could I forget Glory??! :oops: That's a great movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by matteus the inbred
LOL. A very apt way of putting it, Matteus. :laugh4:Quote:
and the big lunky fratboy of a war film that is Starship Troopers
Yea, i forgot that one. It was probably the best movie i watched in school. Another good Civil War Movie is Gods and Generals and the sequal to that Gettysburg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martok
Which would you say is the better film? I mean, I know they're both pretty long. I figure if I can sit through Lord of the Rings ROTK, I can sit through nearly anything...Quote:
Yea, i forgot that one. It was probably the best movie i watched in school. Another good Civil War Movie is Gods and Generals and the sequal to that Gettysburg.
I didn't know they were related films either, I thought they were stand alone...so maybe I'll have to watch both anyway! Reminds me of the time I attmepted a Star Wars Marathon, all six films in a row...
This is probably a generation thing, but the computer-generated battle scenes in LOTR and Troy just didn't look real to me, though in Troy, the close-up scenes with real actors was pretty good. I can't help thinking, though, that Achilles penchant for spinning around and turning his back on opponents would have got him killed pdq in real life.
I think the best individual fighting scene I've ever seen was when Victor Mature took on four other gladiators in Demetrius And The Gladiators. That's how it probably was - short and brutal.
Das Boot (translated The Boat or something - appologies if wrong). I saw it years ago and it was either subtitled or voiceover as it was German film about the life and trials of a U-boat crew. Horrible stuff really.
Not a nice way to go to war (if there is indeed a good way)
The Lion in Winter is the best medieval film ever made, period. But there are some other fun ones.
Excalibur is fun in a silly sort of way. Braveheart has some fun, muddy battle scenes, although I still can't get over all of the historical inaccuracies. Monty Python and the Holy Grail is possibly the funniest film ever made. I don't think anybody's mentioned all of those wonderful Japanese medieval films yet, either.
Seven Samurai, Rashomon, Ran, Throne of Blood, Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo, do any of these ring a bell? They're all classics, and they're all medieval.
Another one of my favorites:
Ladyhawke
A rather undervalued film, but a classic IMHO.
Gladiator (Come on, it has one battle)
Saving Private Ryan (quite realistic and great movie overall)
LotR Trilogy (If those can be counted as war movies. I'm young, spare me from death by comments please)
Das Boot (shows the harsh realities and interesting view of the war)
K19 (Does nuclear era count?)
Sorry if none of these is Medieval :embarassed:
Gah! ... completely forgot about them. Brilliant movies, all of them (Kagemusha definitely needs to be added, though ~:))Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Good point, Lemur! They are wonderful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
If you like Monty Python and the Holy Grail (and who doesn't) have you ever watched the French film Les Visiteurs? Starts in the mediaeval period, at least, and is hilarious.
Isn't this thread about medieval war movies? I love some of the film's mentioned, some are awful but still why are we talking about modern war movies?
1.Gladiator(has one nice battle. but the rest is great too)
2.Troy(nice battles but i wish there was more)
3.Patriot(better than Braveheart)
4.Saving Private Ryan(good action)
5.Braveheart(first battle Stirling not long enough and wheres the bridge?)
6.Kingdom of Heaven(last battle was a dissapointment)
7.LOTR Triology second and third is like a big war film(i dont even like it! too much cgi hate dragons,boring action. what makes me really mad the most is the cavalry charges. in the Two Towers when Gandalf charges downhill with the cavalry the orcs had very long pikes (perhaps as tall as a phalanx) Gandalf use his staff to blind the orcs a short time of melee and they rout! third one the charge outside of minas tirith, orcs have a line of pikes. the Rohirrim charges breaks the line without even a horse dying at the pikes runs them down like grass! honestly LOTR doesent know what cavalry is! and they sure know what crappy morale is!)
sorry about flaming LOTR! no offense to LOTR fans.
i know i critizize these movies with action and battles. but if the movie has a bad story or dialouge then the battles or action can be the only thing backing it ip.
Originally it was for medieval war movies, but the created changed it to just war movies in general. If you look at the first post on the thread you can see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
Well i do agree with you on the whole horses charging through a phalanx. Although it would be kind of scary to be on the frontline holding just a pike with around 10,000 armed horseman charging full speed at you. On the morale issue, the orcs aren't fighting for anything, they are just being ordered around. The riders of rohan are fighting for the freedom of their country and all of the other free creatures.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Spartan
P.S. Just remembered another good, but historically inaccurate movie, Spartacus.
Oh my apologies then. Its just i have seen scores of threads like this over the years and they tend to get repetitive. This should be in the frontroom anyway, if you were around abit longer than a week or so you would know thatQuote:
Originally Posted by AwesomeArcher
No prob. Yes, it probably does belong in the frontroom, but the member who started the thread was probably a junior member when he started the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
I saw Kingdom of Heaven about two weeks ago. It's pretty, the clashes were well done, but as others have said, there was little (if any) plot and as a result character development was MIA too. My initial reaction was "cool!" but by the end I was far off in hohumland, disappointed that the initial hope was entirely wasted. A shame. If I can get the director's cut I may give that a chance. Assuming what I had wasn't that, have to check my Netflix records.
Yeah, Braveheart is a good movie. And, yeah, as history it's, well, not.
Henry V is great Shakespeare, simply superb. That speech at Agincourt is marvelous and it's done as it deserves in the film. I get chills just thinking of it. But not sure I'd quite call it a "war movie." It does have some war in it.
Lion in Winter is great too.
As far as books go, I finally tracked down (online, no less) "The White Company." Read it. It's great fun, and it really brings the period (late, though) to life. It's SO well done I don't even picture the words on the page, I see the scenes. If I don't think about what I'm thinking about :dizzy2: I think I watched a movie. Don't know how I didn't manage to read it decades ago. I tried to track down a copy to buy several times, but it was out of print at the time. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote it. Yeah, that one. You can find it here among other places: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/903.
I wish someone would do a movie version of that. With all the Sherlock Holmes about, you'd think...
Hail! :bow: I will start with 13 Warrior, a great movie, based on the writings of an Arab diplomat and his meeting with varangians, in the 10th century. The story is combined with the tale of Beowulf :viking: . I also like Akira Kurosawa's movies, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, La Reine Margot (not quite a war movie but very interesting), Black Hawk Down , Braveheart. Big fan of Sharpe series (with Sean Bean), set in the Napoleonic era.
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Ivanhoe has always been a favorite of mine. Jousting, hand to hand combat, political intrigue, Saxons vs Normans, etc. In the original Liz Taylor was a very young and pretty actress.
Kingdom of Heaven, the directors cut, is unparalleled. Second comes braveheart, not for historical accuracy, but for having the most gory and realistic battle scenes ever.
how was that? was there extra battles in that one? anything that made it better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn Munqidh
Not really, but the beginnings a lot longer and the characters are really fleshed out with new storylines, making it a much better movie which makes far more sense than the theatrical version. Glad to see I'm not the only one who liked it.
Whist not a true war movie in the context of this poll.
One of the funniest movies I have seen in a long time is "Dogsoldiers".
The story of British Army squad on manouvers when they get attacked by werewolves.
The "special" effects - (being the WORST werewolf heads in history) make it an absolute crack up. Well worth the rental and a bag of popcorn just for the sidesplitting humour of it all. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Seven Samurai, Rashomon, Ran, Throne of Blood, Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo...YES, these rule.
There is an Italian movie, which is set up a bit like a play in theater...It is called "The Medici Soldier" (sorry, hard to translate from Italian 2 German 2 English). It does deal with one of the early Medicis who served as a Conditieri facing the German merc Captain Georg von Frundsberg (who by the way carried a Golden sling with him, destined to hang the Pope as soon as his army catches him). May be very hard to get - I mean the movie, not the Pope - but give it a try...it has good scenes in it.:2thumbsup:
Anybody mentioned "Henry V" yet???? The one with Kenneth Branagh form 1989...I think that is my favorite.....:2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
Hi all,
Just coming in a little late from a two week hiatus with the Army National Guard.
I would have to say the my favorite would have to be El Cid-those scenes of Charleton Heston battling things out in the trial by combat are outstanding. As for the less historical films Excalibur was rather well made, with its stylistic rendition of the King Authur tales. I have always enjoyed Ivanhoe, and watch it everytime it is played. Those jousting scenes are just breathtaking, not to mention the beautiful ladies in their Hollywood versions of medieval dress. :dancing:
What about that somewhat new movie king Arthur, i saw, i thought it was a good movie, but i heard that is was really inaccurate. I dont know a whole lot about the King Arthur legends, but it was different from most of the stories i had heard. What do you all think?
Joan of arc for medieval, the one with Leelee Sobieski not Milla Jovovich.
Heres IMD's listing
And currently in production is another joan f arc Although it doesnt even list current staff.
It was different from the usual Arthurian fare because it was set in the Dark Ages when some historians argue that a real Arthur figure existed. Most previous movies used the mediaeval setting for the stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by AwesomeArcher
I can't say I liked it much.