The people of Greece cannot accept this. We entered The Order Of The Eagle on the promise of strong allies and lands formally held by the Brutii (plus the Scipii sicily city).Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
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The people of Greece cannot accept this. We entered The Order Of The Eagle on the promise of strong allies and lands formally held by the Brutii (plus the Scipii sicily city).Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
i think this'll be the best strategy which will benefit everyone:
Greek Cities take Brutii lands
Carthage take Scipii lands
Julii take SPQR and Gallic lands
We cannot accept the presence of greek or other blood on italy mainland, a compromisse must be made, i will give you messana only. Im not flexible on this point, go after macedon, they are hellenic, you can buy them off cheap.
I dislike that treaty ultramar, sipii lands will be julli, italy is not negotiable.
No, under the terms of the alliance, Greece is entitled to Croton and Tarentum.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
Lol, Italy is not negotiable to the alliance. Why should you get first choice, you are the newest member.
Croton will be Julli, by the time you ll get there you ill move out, or will be forced out, your choice.
Ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
PS, every heard of diplomacy or negotiation? Or compromises?
that is good strategic planning... i would agree that it would be in the best intrests of my nation in particular... i will attack Rome and then when i take it, i will give it to you as a gift.... i will then leave Rome... would the establisment of a Greek Colony in Tarentum and Croton work so then you can keep the rest of the Italian mainland and concentrate eleswere while I will take over Messana...Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
Greek Cities are unsure but would like a bit of land on mainland italy just so that it can trade.
Trade can be done by ports, neither carthage or greek presense in italy mainland ill be considered a good gesture, greece should concentrate on macedon, why bother with the scipii on italy, as for carthage, you already have africa, ive played this many times with carth you can growth enoguh power on africa, italy is mine, africa is yours, same for greece...no foreign presence, else im gonna start demanding athens, snice its revel, and mauretania and numidias land, since its from another faction...
ok... i have had a talk with the other members of this order and have decided... to continue with the original demands....
I will take Messana,Capua and Rome
Greek Cities will take Brutii lands
You can take over North Italy Lands
You will have to accept because if you don't... you'll be running the risk of being annilated by a force worse than death...
trade is done by diplos, one meet an puff trade rights sucred, no need for greek or carthage presence on mainland...Im not flexible on this..ITALY IS MINE. Besides your strategies seem to be a bit agressive towords me, Rome is not the AI anymore, so i suggest you adjust to the new reality....
Hmm, you've played this many times before? Them you'll know you can build a Julii empire in central Europe, you never will hold the italian peninsula for years, so why do you need it?Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
Please, mate, reconsider.
The force of death does not frighten me, neither your threaths, maybe i should join another allaince...
I also hope you notice that the Barbarians are not the AI anymore either... they are after your blood... i am sorry to tell you this but... they will be willing to annilate you if they were given half the chance.Quote:
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also... who would have you in their alliance?Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
Not the North... that's for sure!
Why would the east need you? They HATE you...
We are the only ones who actually feel sorry for you.
It seems that way yes, but you are very sure about yourself....your demands are unnceptable so are Greece, if i must fight then fight we will, you can have Messana, this is my compromisse, acept it or not, i dont care.
HA! This makes me laugh out loud. The Great Alliance was FOUNDED on hatred of romans - in fact, the simple formation of a group of nations with the simple goal of destroying an innocent civilisation was one of the reasons why the Compact and League joined together with the hope of annhilating you.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraWar
Romans, you need not worry about these treacherous, backstabbing fools who simply wish to destroy you like they always have done. Join the Compact, and be true to your Roman blood!
I don't see you in Pan Persia, so obviously you can't join them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
Compact Eurpopa, they plan for Macedon to take the Balkans, so you can't go there. Neither can you expand north as that would taking on you would-be allies, Gaul. You could go south (africa) but you would have no alliance support there, and you you would have issues transporting troops without Carthage sinking them.
North is your only option :) And we are the only alliance that can help you achieve this goal.
I could go Greece, take Athens, after that i cut off your north, then take Sparta by siege, syracuse i blokade the pass with navy? Macedon will eat you up if i strike you on the back...how about that for starts? I sugest you guys start losing some arrogance and start compromising. Your plans are simple, you are both allied and plane to take me over from the beginning, we all now croton, tarentum are developed cities, your empire will be much better then my supossed north cities, and also you ll be on my back while my armie would be on south.
Ultrawar is a carthage addict and a carthage addict always attacks rome, your plan is not fair, and so i must be inflexible.
Correction - "while my armie would be on north"
i am not a carthage addict but there was a agreement on territory... rome always attack carthage...Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
the plan was to support you from any problem from the other romans
Im tired of this, can another player join this game? i have a friend who will be taking the brutii.
His nick his: Luigiman
mail: luissilva1982@sapo.pt
he can join the game if he wantsQuote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
Lol, I thought we wern;t having any romans and now we have two?
Very well, he wants, thks for that. Will there be peace between greece and brutti now? Thus this suit you best?
Well obviously I couldn't do anything until a war with Macedon had finished anyway. I do not believe i'll be able to take down brutti, I'd much rather ally, plus I won't get invaded like if it was AI playing. I'd like peace, i'll settle for the Scipii land on Sicily, if you agree?Quote:
Originally Posted by RickFGS
Very well, i agree, Luigiman agrees also. We will be going for north then.
does this Luigiman have a account on the .org?
if he doesn't.... can he register one as it'd make things much easier via diplomatics
In addition to non agression, Brutii be entering the Order?
If so, I would like to request some assistance in the war vs Macedon. Brutii can easily transport troops to aid me in the war, I cannot allow him any provinces. However, once we win that war, I will divert my attention to the north, I will not take any cities just troops to swell your ranks. In addition, I will grant Brutii 2000 denarri to help me against Macedon. 500 denarri after the he sends some troops and firstly engages Macedon, and then at the end of the war when his and my own troops have conquered Macedon I will give him 1500 denarri.
So yeah, I'll pay him, and I'll support your advances against Gaul, Germania and Britannia.
North is where you will meet your grave.