Thats what I want why cant we have thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
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Thats what I want why cant we have thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
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Probably the slaves at their time did mind their lot. Very few are thrilled about their lot in any time period. But that their lot was better than free people was my point. Possibly if they could see out of the cage what the oppourtunities were they might have been happier where they were.
I am effectively a slave. I am a slave t my morgage, my job, my life. I am a slave to feeling that I need to aspire to be a certain way. I am far from free.
Morals? I see little point as it is al relitavistic. Germany when by the way? Administration in hitler's Germany was a mess, as I'm sure you know.
There are no exact roots of English. Te language has so many influences that one can argue that Latin is its root. More of the short, gutteral words are german, and the longer ones are romanesque.
Advanced countries civilise people more as they win the fight. Therefore they say they are more advanced.
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That's a very sad statement. Genuinely, I feel for you if you feel so trapped. But it is in your own mind. No-one can stop you being free to follow whatever path inspires you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
I was being slightly obtuse to make a point. Clearly I failed. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
Believe it or not, but many proponents of this bill kept citing the US as an inspiration for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
In particular the part about skilled workers. I've twice stated here before that I wanted a more American kind of immigration, where people can be allowed entry on account of possesing mad skillz of some sort. It got shot down twice by the Americans here, who didn't have a clue what I was going on about... :inquisitive:
I've since learned that an approximate twenty percent of America's immigrants are allowed entry as wanted skilled workers. Lower than I once thought, but still much higher than here.
Doesn't the US just have a green card lottery now ? I keep saying adds for it...
Yeah it is sad. The curse of being middle class ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
Sorry about missing the humour. Discussing religion... an itch I know I shouldn't scratch - BUT DAMNIT I CAN'T RESIST!!. Suffering bruises from headbutting a brick wall.
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Ok, how about this. NO ONE in power today was involved in ANY Empire, niether were the vast majoriety of the current European population.
Decisions, and mistakes, are made by people. I'm sorry but I am not going to be responsible for something done by someone long dead and I won't let my country be responsible either. We have no responsibility to out country's former possesions than we do to anyone else.
Oh, and, as said, we fought wars to gain our Empire and they didn't all turn out great. The Indian Mutiny, the Zulu war. The Locals were outclassed and it wasn't fair but they had things other than Mangos!
“I won't lose a minute of sleep over their accusations that it's outrageously racist to:
-require permanent citizens to learn French at some point
-ask immigrants to accept republican values and abide by democratic laws
-not grant automatic citizenship to illegals
-have French demand for immigration, and not Africa's demand for emigration decide the immigration policy of France.”
I won’t. But according of what I know, illegal immigration is YET illegal. This law is just sand in the eyes for next elections.
For the rest, I am a Republican, and for me, to be French is to accept the Values of the Republic as defined by the French Revolution, and refined by the following Republics. So, French is the legal language, Religions belong to the private life domain, etc.:furious3:
The Gauche Caviar’s point of view about the minorities rights (forgetting in doing that that democracy is the right of the majority, but that is an other story) and others cultural differences is just to through in the nettles. France has to come back to her roots (ideal) and stop this path of Social Democracy (Social Traitres/ Social Traitors), this soft belly approach of compromising her values.:furious3:
If Muslims are Jews are in France and stay, it is because they want to be free NOT to respect Ramadan, Kippur, like Catholic can avoid Careme (don’t know in English) and to be citizens in a land free of superstitions and imposed moral rules from others ages (Dark).
Ok, it is early in the morning; I raised the 3 colours high in the sky. “Pas de liberte pour les ennemis de la Liberte / No Freedom for the enemies of Freedom” said St Just. Well, ok he ended on the guillotine, but still… That is my extreme left dark side coming back:laugh4:
Yes, colonialism was pretty bad. But those responsible for it are dead and collective punishment is immoral. Thus, there cannot be a moral responsibility of the French towards the former colonies on the basis of historical crimes. If anyone wants to argue that there's a moral responsibility of French towards Africa then he or she has to base it on the situation now.
Yeah, I know. Same with the Vikings. They brought great political instability and destroyed the thriving intellectual hubs of the great monasteries in hte British Isles. Had they not invaded England, the Normans would'nt have been able to conquer it. And think of the thousands of silver coins that they plundered, not to mention the slaves! All citizens of the UK and Ireland should all automatically be granted residence and work permits in Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Norway has the highest standard of living in the world, I demand that the people they once oppressed be given the right to live there!Quote:
Originally Posted by _Martyr_
Same with the Romans! I mean, what did they ever do for us? We should all be given a nice plot of land in Tuscany, in compensation for the ressources the Romans looted, the people they enslaved and the millions who were massacred.
Macedonia is buggered when you consider how much of the world Alexander the Great conquered.
Why is is that only recent imperialism is considered, and again only that done by Europeans?
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Good job France. Dont give up your country without a fight.
Most nations when one looks at their immigrantion policies would have a tendency to believe that the nation are being baised with their immigrantion laws. This would be correct - most nations do not want to have vaste numbers of unskilled workers pouring into their nation nor do most nations want vast numbers of people immigranting into their nation who do not to assimlate into their new home.
To call it racism is a misnomer.
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I hate people who pull out the race card at every opportunity- it's untrue, insulting and undermines the struggle against real racism. The fact that the majority of those immigrants/emigrants (depending on where you look at it from) are non white is seized by evil people to cry "racism".
If chavs in Brittain were majorily black, InsaneApache, IanSmeg and a whole bunch of others here would have been labeled as racist :idea2:
France did good here.
Once these emigration countries find out that only their skilled people are leaving and resettling elsewhere, I bet we'll see some reduction in migration.
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If chavs in Brittain were majorily black, InsaneApache, IanSmeg and a whole bunch of others here would have been labeled as racist
Exactly. People confuse this with race all the time. You see a brown person I see my tax dollars being pissed away. Its all in your minds eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg