Gay Candians "Mounties" Marry

Look, I don't have any issue with people screwing each other or animals. What you do in the privacy of your own home is prefectly fine with me, so long as kids aren't involved in the act or present furing the act. My best man was a lesbian. (And a feminine lesbian at that, she only wore a chick tux 'cause I asked.)

I'm just pointing out that there is a real potential for drastic social change as a result of redefining marriage as anything but other than one man and one woman.

My view is a pessimistic one, and I have to this of my own accord. Homosexuals are not evil, and that is not what I am implying here. I am only suggesting the potential for greater change, that I think people fail to address. Whether I am right or wrong certainly remains to be seen. I just prefer to go down this road at a slow pace.

Well, if we get onto the bestiality thing. That is wrong, because the animal cannot really give consent. Technically it's abuse.

As to the gay marriage, who cares? I think some people are irrationally worried about the "gayness" rubbing off onto their kids, if this kind of lifestyle is seen as an "accepted norm". Marriage is one of those dying institions anyway, with or without the acceptance of gay people or gay marriages. Marriage is an ancient tradition based on the man's ownership of the woman, those days are gone. Many, modern marriages don't work simply because of the equality, and the conflicts this causes. In the past they worked because the man and woman had defined roles. Gays aren't the problem it's modern living. If gays want to marry, then let them I say.

Marriage IS an antiquated and archaic idea, besides being nonsense and even borderline insulting.

Anyway, I can't believe that people are still arguing about this. I would facetiously claim that two men marrying would directly cause the sky to fall, but that's already been said.

Ok, fine, we'll admit it. We're gay, all of us. All thirty million Canadians are gay and we're all married to each other. Every citizen spends a mandatory nine months of each year travelling the country and consummating the Grand Relationship. It's lots more fun than F.D.R's Great Society ever was. ~;)

This is why we have no time for war and all the other little things, we're simply too busy conjugating the verb.

BTW Beirut, dont forget you're scheduled here next month. My neighbourhood await you with impatience.... Especially the bs 2 blocs away...

*run away*


couldnt resist ...

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Originally Posted by Beirut

Every citizen spends a mandatory nine months of each year travelling the country and consummating the Grand Relationship.

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Right now I am seriously considering a move to Canada :thinking:

Also consider that it's perfectly legal for women to walk around topless. Has been for a decade. :wink3:

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Originally Posted by lars573

Also consider that it's perfectly legal for women to walk around topless. Has been for a decade. :wink3:

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Sadly, I haven't seen this in action since it was illegal.

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

The problem is when this becomes mainstream. Then it becomes taught in school. Then it becames culturally equivalent to heterosexuality. Then are children are raised to be able to choose between men and wome for sexual parteners with no social stigma. Then the idea of what family means is reconsidered. Then family no longer exists as man +woman +children. Then multiple partners are included as acceptable. Then marriage is antiquated and archaic. Then our children are raised by a multitude of individuals with no clear parents. Then the foundations of family values collapse. Then social values and ethics are reconsidered. Then God is eliminated from humanity. Then "good and evil" does not exist. Then evil is an acceptable choice, because good is relative and nothing is absolute. Then "good" is eliminated and self-service dominates civilization. Then human life is no longer valued. Then civilization crumbles.

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Here you go Divinus

Enjoy your read :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Here you go Divinus

Enjoy your read :2thumbsup:

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I cant remember where Jesus was ever quoted as saying he was going to come back and firebomb all the gays...

Publications like that are why Christianity is becoming less and less tolerated in intellectual circles. Its a shame too, because the true way in which Jesus told his followers to live is still a great moral compass. :shame:

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

Look, I don't have any issue with people screwing each other or animals.

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And here we have the slippery slope argument, cadged from Senator Santorum, no doubt. Why do opponents of homosexual marriage always go straight for the barnyard?

SENATOR RICK SANTORUM: In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality —

AP: I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about "man on dog" with a United States senator, it's sort of freaking me out.

SANTORUM: And that's sort of where we are in today's world, unfortunately. The idea is that the state doesn't have rights to limit individuals' wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire. And we're seeing it in our society.

AP: Sorry, I just never expected to talk about that when I came over here to interview you. Would a President Santorum eliminate a right to privacy — you don't agree with it?

SANTORUM: I've been very clear about that. The right to privacy is a right that was created in a law that set forth a (ban on) rights to limit individual passions.

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Publications like that are why Christianity is becoming less and less tolerated in intellectual circles. Its a shame too, because the true way in which Jesus told his followers to live is still a great moral compass. :shame:

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More like because external moral compasses are for fools. Any 'intellectual' or person with any sense would simply disregard things like chick.com.

Hey look, I didn't even say it was necessarily evil to get all poop-dick with another man. I only said that it could drastically alter the social structure of the civilization which adopts it as equivalent to heterosexuality. It opens the door to challenge the foundations of our society, namely the family. If homosexuality and heterosexuality are equally acceptbale, then other alternative sexual relationships are open to acceptance as well. Over time, this could lead to the decay of many components of our social relationships.

I don't argue this on grounds of what the Bible said, but it could lead to a society without God. Whether you want that or not is up to you. I leave it up to Democracy, and as such I have a probelm with the minority forcing its view on the majority. This isn't race or ethnicity we're talking about here, it's the social structure of a society based on relationships. Do we want a society based on casual promiscous sex free from gender boundaries? If you say yes, then you must never have had sex with someone whom you share a deep intimate love. Sex with a stranger is just nasty after you have had the real deal.

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

If homosexuality and heterosexuality are equally acceptbale, then other alternative sexual relationships are open to acceptance as well.

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Please, oh please, elaborate. What "other alternative sexual relationships" do you speak of?

Let me get a beer first...

He means pedophillia, necrophiliia, polyamory, and doggystyle (with an actual dog).

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

Hey look, I didn't even say it was necessarily evil to get all poop-dick with another man. I only said that it could drastically alter the social structure of the civilization which adopts it as equivalent to heterosexuality. It opens the door to challenge the foundations of our society, namely the family. If homosexuality and heterosexuality are equally acceptbale, then other alternative sexual relationships are open to acceptance as well. Over time, this could lead to the decay of many components of our social relationships.

I don't argue this on grounds of what the Bible said, but it could lead to a society without God. Whether you want that or not is up to you. I leave it up to Democracy, and as such I have a probelm with the minority forcing its view on the majority. This isn't race or ethnicity we're talking about here, it's the social structure of a society based on relationships. Do we want a society based on casual promiscous sex free from gender boundaries? If you say yes, then you must never have had sex with someone whom you share a deep intimate love. Sex with a stranger is just nasty after you have had the real deal.

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I still don't get how more people getting married challenges the "family". It would create more families. The gays who want to get married obviously share deep intimate love.

Multi-member "families": Mommy-mommy-daddy-daddy-daddy, and one of the mommies belongs to another mulit-member family and so does one of the daddies.

Who are you to say that someone cannot be married to seven other women and three men? They are a happy loving family and have a right to be recognized as husbands and wives.

Same logic as two men.

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

Multi-member "families": Mommy-mommy-daddy-daddy-daddy, and one of the mommies belongs to another mulit-member family and so does one of the daddies.

Who are you to say that someone cannot be married to seven other women and three men? They are a happy loving family and have a right to be recognized as husbands and wives.

Same logic as two men.

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I seriously doubt that homosexuals marring will turn us into denobulans. That's being a bit paranoid.

I'd love to have two wives. Who are you to say that I cannot? Who are you to say that all three of us are not deeply in love with each other?

I demand that society and the government honor and respect our marriage and teach it through public education as an equal to heterosexual and homosexual marriage!

And give them all the benefit$ that go with marriage!

Exactly. My wives are married to each other, and I am married to each of them. All three of us deserve the tax benefits and social acceptance of at least a "traditional conservative" homosexual marriage.

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

I'd love to have two wives. Who are you to say that I cannot? Who are you to say that all three of us are not deeply in love with each other?

I demand that society and the government honor and respect our marriage and teach it through public education as an equal to heterosexual and homosexual marriage!

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Go right ahead :2thumbsup: Who really objects to that kind of thing anyway?

You'd still have a family, so I don't see your point.


@Alexander: money? :no: That's a really weak objection.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Go right ahead :2thumbsup: Who really objects to that kind of thing anyway?

You'd still have a family, so I don't see your point.

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Okay. Good. Now I want to admit a third wife in to this equation, where we are all married together. Oh, and that third wife is also shared with a second fmaily similar to mine. She happens to love me and my wives deeply, but also loves another family group too. The thing is, we don't love them, just her. So we want to marry her, and allow her to also be married to her second family group.

Who are you to say that we cannot? Who are you to say that all of us are not deeply in love with each other?

I demand that society and the government honor and respect our marriage and teach it through public education as an equal to heterosexual and homosexual marriage!

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

Okay. Good. Now I want to admit a third wife in to this equation, where we are all married together. Oh, and that third wife is also shared with a second fmaily similar to mine. She happens to love me and my wives deeply, but also loves another family group too. The thing is, we don't love them, just her. So we want to marry her, and allow her to also be married to her second family group.

Who are you to say that we cannot? Who are you to say that all of us are not deeply in love with each other?

I demand that society and the government honor and respect our marriage and teach it through public education as an equal to heterosexual and homosexual marriage!

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Well, that's between you guys. She can choose to live with you some of the time and with the other people some of the time. When she has kids she'll keep them with her the whole time, perhaps choosing to live permanently with the father. The kids will have a bunch of parents-in-law to help raise them. Strong family unit.

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

Hey look, I didn't even say it was necessarily evil to get all poop-dick with another man. I only said that it could drastically alter the social structure of the civilization which adopts it as equivalent to heterosexuality. It opens the door to challenge the foundations of our society, namely the family. If homosexuality and heterosexuality are equally acceptbale, then other alternative sexual relationships are open to acceptance as well. Over time, this could lead to the decay of many components of our social relationships.

I don't argue this on grounds of what the Bible said, but it could lead to a society without God. Whether you want that or not is up to you. I leave it up to Democracy, and as such I have a probelm with the minority forcing its view on the majority. This isn't race or ethnicity we're talking about here, it's the social structure of a society based on relationships. Do we want a society based on casual promiscous sex free from gender boundaries? If you say yes, then you must never have had sex with someone whom you share a deep intimate love. Sex with a stranger is just nasty after you have had the real deal.

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Whacky.

(Except the sex with random strangers part... I, too, prefer someone I know.)

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Any 'intellectual' or person with any sense would simply disregard things like chick.com.

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What? No way - chick.com is guaranteed hilarity ... you cannot "simply disregard" it.

I'm shocked :stare:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Well, that's between you guys. She can choose to live with you some of the time and with the other people some of the time. When she has kids she'll keep them with her the whole time, perhaps choosing to live permanently with the father.

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Nobody really will know who the father is. And we want it that way. And we all have avested interest in the children.

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The kids will have a bunch of parents-in-law to help raise them. Strong family unit.

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Well, my city wants to get married as one family unit and share the collective burden in a community parenting effort, where children are passed along from one house to another or raised in the collective child unit. This will all be paid for with taxes that we impose on ourselves. We all love each other and who are you to say that we cannot get married?

I demand that society and the government honor and respect our marriage and teach it through public education as an equal to heterosexual and homosexual marriage!

I want my kids to learn that they can have sex with anybody they want, all the time, and that their chidren will be raised by the public. I want them to know that the government (us, since government is public) loves them.

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

Nobody really will know who the father is. And we want it that way. And we all have avested interest in the children.



Well, my city wants to get married as one family unit and share the collective burden in a community parenting effort, where children are passed along from one house to another or raised in the collective child unit. This will all be paid for with taxes that we impose on ourselves. We all love each other and who are you to say that we cannot get married?

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That won't happen. Human instincts man. We can only keep track of so many people.

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I want my kids to learn that they can have sex with anybody they want, all the time, and that their chidren will be raised by the public. I want them to know that the government (us, since government is public) loves them.

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Do you believe that there is something morally wrong with having a lot of sex? People who can, will. I suppose Wilt Chamberlain is the devil incarnate?

Gay men have lots of sex, but that's because they're both men :laugh4:

It wouldn't translate over to heterosexual relationships.



The only point you've made is that if society accepts gay marriage, then they will likely accept polyamory at some time in the future. This doesn't indicate any downfall of civilization though, on the contrary it means society is less prudish and close minded.

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Originally Posted by Eclectic

I'd love to have two wives.

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And we'd love to have a husband.

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Gah. My point has been made. Whether others choose to agree or not is entirely their right. Let democracy decide.