What Expansion do you want? 2

Personally I feel that such fripperies as maps can (relatively) easily be created, as can units.

I would rather that the bulk of the time was spent increasing access to the many facets of the game, maybe even allowing access to areas that are as yet relatively ignored.

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We're just wishing here, right - not predicting?

In that case, I'd like an expansion that starts before the mainGame startDate, but continues into the main game era.

When Viking Invaders came out, I dove into it as the Irish, but was disappointed when the game ended with my domination of what we now call Great Britain. I wanted to continue my success into the broader mainGame map, taking over all of Europe as the Irish (for example).

Does that make any sense? I want an expansion that actually expands the game, not an add-on mini-game.

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Originally Posted by posty

Does that make any sense? I want an expansion that actually expands the game, not an add-on mini-game.

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:2thumbsup: That makes a lot of sense. I had to post just to voice my support for this idea. :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by posty

We're just wishing here, right - not predicting?

In that case, I'd like an expansion that starts before the mainGame startDate, but continues into the main game era.

When Viking Invaders came out, I dove into it as the Irish, but was disappointed when the game ended with my domination of what we now call Great Britain. I wanted to continue my success into the broader mainGame map, taking over all of Europe as the Irish (for example).

Does that make any sense? I want an expansion that actually expands the game, not an add-on mini-game.

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This man sums up everything I have wanted to say. Posty, I tip my hat to you, spot on, mate.

New world. Bringing in the Aztecs, Mayans and Incas would be interesting.

Personally of any of the expansions which may evolve I pray its not New World. :no:

As I heard that Mongols & Timmurids are BOTH NOT PLAYABLE :furious3: I would love to see a Mongol Invasion expansion...pleasepleaseplease

Hopefully its easy to mod to make playable.

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Originally Posted by Subedei

As I heard that Mongols & Timmurids are BOTH NOT PLAYABLE :furious3: I would love to see a Mongol Invasion expansion...pleasepleaseplease

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The reason they are not playable is becuase the game starts early and they enter the scene in the High middle age (sometimes in the 1220's). If only they put in eras to make mongols playable it would rock.

Damn, accidentally clicked other instead of Islam.

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Originally Posted by Rythmic

Personally of any of the expansions which may evolve I pray its not New World. :no:

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I agree completely, though unfortunately this seems very likely. Something incorporating the several early invasions of the entire European/Mideast/NorthAfrican theater, such as the Vikings, Arabs, and Magyars and other Steppe Peoples, would be optimal.

Ajax

The later the game gets in time frame, the more important naval warefare becomes.

I will be interested to see if anything has been done with naval warefare, with this release, or if this is still a long way off.

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Originally Posted by ShadesWolf

The later the game gets in time frame, the more important naval warefare becomes.

I will be interested to see if anything has been done with naval warefare, with this release, or if this is still a long way off.

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Great idea! They could do Naval Warfare for the expansion! However, if they put Naval warfare it would most likely have America in it.:captain:

It is interesting that all the opinions here differ from TWC. Islamic expansion is the highest here but at TWC it is one of the lowest.

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Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi

Why? The dark ages were due to the collapse of the Roman Empire in Europe, not Islamic expansion in N Africa.

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The Islamic expansion burned and destroyed all libraries, universities, schools, monasteries and temples holding the vast knowledge of number of civilisations such as Byzantium, Egypt, Persia, Mesopotamia and Central Asia. At this time the catholic Europe literally was in the Dark Ages. Very small number of books survived by being translated by the Islamic scholars as their own and later translated during the Renaissance into Europe.

E.g. the Alexandria Library and all the Egyptian temple libraries, which had books 4,000 years old and still qualifies as one of the biggest in the world, the Patriarch Library and the Magnaur (sorry for the spelling) university in Constantinople.

i'd like to see either a civil war or crusade expansion, VI was brilliant because it was small and you could complete a campaign in a week easily (usually took me about 12-15 hours of play time to take the british isles as the vikings or english factions, and 15-20 for scots, picts, welsh and irish)

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Originally Posted by todorp

The Islamic expansion burned and destroyed all libraries, universities, schools, monasteries and temples holding the vast knowledge of number of civilisations such as Byzantium, Egypt, Persia, Mesopotamia and Central Asia. At this time the catholic Europe literally was in the Dark Ages. Very small number of books survived by being translated by the Islamic scholars as their own and later translated during the Renaissance into Europe.

E.g. the Alexandria Library and all the Egyptian temple libraries, which had books 4,000 years old and still qualifies as one of the biggest in the world, the Patriarch Library and the Magnaur (sorry for the spelling) university in Constantinople.

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Islam is widely accredited with saving much of the ancient knowledge. Apparently the fact that they made the knowledge so scarce by destroying the rest is not as often repeated.

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Originally Posted by todorp

The Islamic expansion burned and destroyed all libraries, universities, schools, monasteries and temples holding the vast knowledge of number of civilisations such as Byzantium, Egypt, Persia, Mesopotamia and Central Asia. At this time the catholic Europe literally was in the Dark Ages. Very small number of books survived by being translated by the Islamic scholars as their own and later translated during the Renaissance into Europe.

E.g. the Alexandria Library and all the Egyptian temple libraries, which had books 4,000 years old and still qualifies as one of the biggest in the world, the Patriarch Library and the Magnaur (sorry for the spelling) university in Constantinople.

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So you're agreeing with me then that Islamic expansion didn't cause the Dark Ages? Once Rome fell Western Europe didn't give a rats ass, or even know about, what was happening in Africa & the Middle East.

And by the time Constantinople was taken by the Ottomans, the Dark Ages were long since past (and this helped trigger the Renaissance as Byzantine scholars fled to Italy).

I voted for "Viking Invasion 2" but that's really not what I want at all. What I'd love to play is an expansion using the same campaign map as M2TW but set at least a couple hundred years earlier, complete with historical events, faction emergences, etc. Ideally this mode would be capable of continuing into the 1500's, truly expanding the grand campaign.

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Originally Posted by GeneralMikeIII

:2thumbsup: That makes a lot of sense. I had to post just to voice my support for this idea. :2thumbsup:

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agreed.

that's why i want the main map expanded eastwards.

im sorry but my loyalties lie with the barbarians on this one just cause it would be awesome to see thousands of blue painted barbarians taking on the vikings:2thumbsup:


and the crusades were the my second choice cause i love the knight orders:juggle2:

Renaissance is in my opinion a great period to do an expansion. After the fall of Constantinople to the Ottoman turks started a period of great turmoil for the whole Europe. This expansion could include the period of the religion wars, the wars of the roses, the english civil war, etc.

Vikinng/Dark age one... But for the whole map this time so we can invaid all the right places (maybe squeeze in Iceland and Greenland and a little Newfoundland for those viking explorers...)

I think the Renaissance would be better served in a new full version...

Waht about just like Europe total war where it has like 10 smaller campaigns set in diff time periods with diff situations. and mayb a campaign map editor attached ~:)

Islamic Invasion! You could tie it in with the wars of the reformation and England separating from Rome. Very interesting period.

Since I havn't seen or heard about it yet. I've seen faction maps though. I do dislike that this time there is no early, mid, and late era. I liked the choice to play as a fledging kingdom or a well established empire.

I think that's reason so many time questions are coming up.


What do I think will happen? Let's be honest Viking has almost all it's content made, all they'd have to do is throw in new graphics engine, change a few names, and come up with one or two new features.


I'll be honest I think CA is to nervous to go forward in Gun era. A couple reasons, one being yes most games that go into Colonization period are not that fun, plus gun powder is something they seem not to keen on. I mean look at there games. I think they prefer the visceral aspect of Brutal Warfare with blades, arrows, what have you.

I like others have said would like to see more expanded on Islamic area. I feel that sure there are jihads in game, but when you consider they don't have alot of features they should there's alot of room to expand. To me while the Catholic Factions, and even orthodox in a way seem tied together, I don't see the islamic factions tied together, I see them as each doing there own little thing. Why you can't aspire to have one leader launch jihads like the pope, with enough political influence is beyond me.

Second choice, I dunno Crusade are fun but I think highly over done in this game. I guess I'd say dark ages, though I don't want just vikings and england, I want the DARK AGES, fully. like 800-(whenever MTW 2 is set)

Voted Renaissance........that would be a cool expansion. Its not going to happen though.........theyd basically have to make a whole new game, and as Polemists said, they wouldn't really want to do a game where almost all the soldiers would be gunpowder based. Personally i agree.

Except the Renaissance was almost finished in 1530. I think they should have an expansion on the Reformation or a Viking Invasion on the whole of Europe.

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Originally Posted by B_Ray

I voted for "Viking Invasion 2" but that's really not what I want at all. What I'd love to play is an expansion using the same campaign map as M2TW but set at least a couple hundred years earlier, complete with historical events, faction emergences, etc. Ideally this mode would be capable of continuing into the 1500's, truly expanding the grand campaign.

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Then you should have clicked "other." :juggle2:

What I would like to see is a a New World expansio, where it might start around the 13th or 14th century while one can only play Mesoamerican factions. Then in the end of the game, the Spanish will arrive with rock-hard unites who will not be possible to stopp and keep on coming, more and more of them along with possibly dieseses. Thus your end-game empire would have a real fight on their hands where simply steamrolling the hole enemy land isn't an option.

Also it might give on the challange to fight a defensive war in late-game. Something which I haven't done many a time. Naturally there would be an end date to which one needs to survive the onslaught.

the islamic wil be cool always like to invade europe