Oh dear, and to think I was going to but it today.
I feel you're pain.:shame:
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Oh dear, and to think I was going to but it today.
I feel you're pain.:shame:
Ouch, too bad you feel you got burned. But I don't know how we could have warned you better - calling CoH an evolutionary step from DoW, like Lars did, is a pretty accurate description IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
I don't mind the speed, it's in the slower half of the RTS spectrum IMO, I'd actually rate it slower than RTW MP games. Can't detect any other "broken" stuff either - it works like it should, a RTS with wargame flavor.
I'd suggest trying out some skirmish games if you can't stand the campaign. Take a 2vs2 map, one Hard opponent, and ally yourself with a Hard or Expert comp. Then just fiddle with things sandbox-style.
Don't worry - I'm not blaming anyone; just my own weakness. I think it is a temperamental thing (on the part of the player). I tried Call of Duty and had the same reaction - too frenetic and linear to enjoy. I like to sit back, evaluate the options. To me, a good game is rather like a good scary movie - the scariest part is the anticipation. I want to be sweating as the AI lumbers towards me, not frantically clicking to best it. Most RTS and FPS are so in your face, they remind me of the frenetic ends to bad Hollywood action films - apparently it is just not exciting unless there are 40 police cars crashing into each other, helicopters falling on tower blocks, heroes diving from great heights and some how surviving etc. Sometimes less is more.
Good idea about trying a skirmish game - they actually got my attention in DoW whereas the campaign was underwhelming.
Yeah Relic's real weakness these days is campagin design. From what I've heard the campagin from Homeworld was great. But the campagin from DOW was :thumbsdown:, the campagin in WA was :juggle:. on the ones hand you get to choose from 4 factions (divided in half by chaos and order) but the actual campagin was pretty short. And the last mission for order and chaos was the same just with you controlling a different army. Dark crusades TW esque planetary conquest looks ~:thumb: on paper. How it palys out will be the determining factor.
CoH campagin is similar to the DoW campagin. One sided, and far to linear. But it is WW2. If they had a German campagin the Jewish anti-defimation league would eat Relic for breakfast.
But what Relic is great at creating is RTS action. That's not RA2 or WC3 fast and clickyish, or too plodding.
I get that feeling playing Cossacks 2. I just unload a full volley from my fusilier battalion and sent the enemy running then another one marches up the road before I can exploit the route. ~:doh: Then the enemy marches towards me line and I don't know whether they are going to fire or sit back and wait for their comrades. Then I'm like. :help:Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
Interesting - that's another game that you (and AdrianII) persuaded me to buy, Lars, but I have not even loaded it up yet. Maybe I should...Quote:
Originally Posted by lars573
Well it is slow paced. I've never whipped out a stop watch and checked mind but I swear it takes at least 20 seconds for the guys in Cossack 2 to reload. But if you don't have the expansion version your might be in for some let down. Much like CA GSC didn't patch their game, they just put all the bug fixing in the expansion.
I enjoyed DoW massively (even if the linear campaign was a let down) and keep intenting to get CoH and have a look at the evolved version. I've heard mainly positive things about it so far so definatly going to check it out.
Slightly unrelated from the original topic but I loved Cossacks 2. Especially liked the longer reload times. Meant you had to judge when you let loose the salvo better. Too early or too late wouldn't stop the charge. Unfortunatly don't get a lot of gaming time these days so not got the expansions for either Dow or Cossacks yet :(
Tried out the demo. MAN, it's GREAT ~:eek:
Good gameplay, and it looks good too with decent frame rate, even on my low-end machine, hah hah.
This is a must-buy.