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Most victory conditions say: "hold 45 regions + Jerusalem region + (sometimes) Constantinople region, so I assume it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orda Khan
It would be rather silly to require the Turks to invade central america to achieve victory, after all.
Only reason I ask is that I have no intention of going there
.......Orda
I doubt they'll have an impact in the game. In actual history though they were really only defeated by European diseases which they had no immunity to as well as the fact that the Spanish allied with local tribes who hated the Aztecs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polemists
They could easily implement the diseases. That would be cool...
The only reference I found to priests was that one about sacrifices made by men in coyote skins.
I suppose another set of 'militia', 'peasants', 'bowmen', would be quite boring, so they went a little overboard on making the Aztecs look interesting...Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
Theres not really much you can do with a civilization you don't know much about. The Spanish did a pretty good job at wiping them off the face of the planet.
It's actually not really overboard because they really did dress that way when they fought...Quote:
Originally Posted by BDC
It's not overboard in what they look like. Certain aztec warriors did dress that way (see the mural pic on page 1)
The issue (and it is a minor one) is wether they are priests or not.
I think that the reason the Aztecs were put in is so that they could be completely accurate on a units look and have a very unique eye catching troops.
looks good
But you might get a mission to go there....Quote:
Originally Posted by Orda Khan
I agree - I was very leery about the idea of including the Aztecs, but seeing the amazing representation of the units, I now have no problem. And in fact am rather looking forward to facing them - hopefully with a very small force (moving a full stack over the Atlantic would be so wrong).Quote:
Originally Posted by lars573
I would like to go there, hire mercs if possible and bring them back to Europe just for fun.
its a cool aztek unit :dizzy2:
Obsidian arrowheads can penetrate soft tissues better than similar ones of steel. So great tools, as long as they don't hit armor...
Not trying to be Mr. Heavy-Hand here, but I'm not so sure I will really enjoy conquering the Aztecs at all, let alone with the help of diseases!Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
I trust CA enough to believe that the gameplay involving the Aztecs will be balanced so that they are at least given a fighting chance (and won't revolve around simply wiping them out).
Nonetheless, I think it's a sensitive subject historically, because of the excessively brutal realities that this "game development" touches on. I bet there were some interesting conversations at CA when the Aztecs were brought up as a possible faction.
More to the point: I really like the look of the units, glad to see them represented with some respect for the culture itself. I'll certainly be rooting for the Aztecs in my games... maybe I'll form a military alliance. :2thumbsup:
Guillaume
Question is how will that work tho ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Guillaume le Batard
The aztecs can't leave the americas so you will pretty much will defend them against anyone that attacks them.
And of course the question wether you can actually have an alliance with the Aztecs in the first place.
The relations might be so poor that it is impossible.
Lets face it though, how much trouble was a plague in RTW? Not much, it was more of an inconvenience. A plague which appears with the Europeans wouldn't unbalance the game...Quote:
let alone with the help of diseases!
I thought someone from CA said that plagues would have more impact this time around. Besides the Aztecs will be AI controlled so they probably won't implement the easy solutions that human players tend to use.
Why would that be wrong econ? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by econ21
I was going to do that.... :P
It's just the impressive thing about the conquistadors was how much they conquered with only a few European troops. Plus, if the stats are realistic, the late European units will greatly outclass the Aztecs. (Indeed, I suspect Ancient Greeks and Persians would greatly outclass the Aztecs.)Quote:
Originally Posted by hoetje
This priest looks quite nice indeed.
Didn't a warrior have to capture 6 prisoners in order to become a jaguar warrior?
I had this number in mind, it's probably wrong.
Ah yes, and I want to play the Aztecs. I'm really fond of colourful uniforms.
That's not true, there are still people of aztec and mayan descent around. Alot of hispanic people have native american blood in them. Also in some regions people still speak mayan languages.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrackerJap
yes, i would really like to see Eagle Warriors.
wow! that unit is laughable :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
i hope theyre tougher than they look:shame:
Ideally the cost of transporting a large army across the Atlantic should be extremely high and captured Aztec buildings should not be able to train foreign units.
Now I'm hoping that Eagle and (Jaguar?) Warriors look equally nice. Aztecs'll be a relief after those centuries of meeting the same armies over and over again.
Umm, some non-junior member should start a new thread about New 3d unit: Varangian Guard . . .