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My point is that the controller adds little to nothing to gameplay. Does using a stick to simulate rowing make the game any better or even more immersive? I would argue no. I have no desire to work up a sweat on a game console - Real Life (2006) is perfectly suited to such activities and probably models such activities far more faithfully than say, playing golf by swinging a remote control around.
I'd say it's almost impossible, due to the need to stabilise the remote in mid-air (wrist crampage?), unlike a mouse which rests on a surface. But yeah, should be better than an analogue stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Wouldn't the more direct solution be forcing kids to do sports?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
An even better solution would be forcing them to work in sweat shops... but some people actually want kids to be able to have fun during their childhoods. Honestly though, I don't care if playing with your Wii is good exercise...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lehesu
Ya, I guess some people are bound to think that more precise control and more realistic movements are actually impediments to game immersion.... but those 3 people dont have to buy a Wii. :wink:Quote:
My point is that the controller adds little to nothing to gameplay. Does using a stick to simulate rowing make the game any better or even more immersive? I would argue no. I have no desire to work up a sweat on a game console - Real Life (2006) is perfectly suited to such activities and probably models such activities far more faithfully than say, playing golf by swinging a remote control around.
The wii controller, despite the rather exagerrated movements seen in promo videos,does not require huge sweeping gestures. You won't be required to stand up and go all samurai just to get link to swing his sword - you can couch potato and just swing a little. Given the various range of rather intense motions gamers tend to do anyway (ever seen how people act when they're getting annoyed in a game? swinging a wiimote around like a golf club is low impact exercise compared to that.), worrying about physical exhaustion seems silly.
Ultimately, it's simply superior to the other consoles game pads, since it includes all their functionality and considerably more. The wiimote has all those buttons and axises and all those other things for gamers unwilling to adapt. Plus, it has all those motion sensitivity features, and by all reports it's quite accurate to boot. That offers a huge range of direct, easily accessible control options. It's simply a vast wealth of new possibilities - really one not to be disregarded so easily as games become more and more complex.
Ultimately though, it allows for far more intuitive control options. Whether or not rowing the boat by rowing the boat is more immersive is very debateable - whether or not rowing the boat is more instinctual and intuitive then rowing it by pressing X is not.
Certainly though, I'll say that if I'm looking at two rowing games, one rows via rowing motions with the wiimote, the other rows by pressing X or square of B or whatever, the wii one wins on immersion, simply because there isn't that extra level of abstraction between you and the controller. I want to row the boat, so I row. It's instinctive, it's obvious, and it doesn't require me to be thinking about how to perform the actions, and allows me to just do them. A barrier between me and the game is removed. If that's not greater immersion....well, nothing is.
It's also far more flexible then a classical controller. More axes and buttons simply give you more options. And I for one will be quite please when action rpgs start using simple motions for quick equipment changes, rather then having to enter menus all the time.
The thing has the potential to break down a lot of the arcane control scheme barriers between the game experience and the player. For those of you who absolutely must have arcane control schemes, the pad is still there.
Of course the Wii controller is going to mean 9/10 ports will either have bodged implementation or just use the old GC controller...
Plus the Wii doesn't even support HD tvs...
Who actually has an HD tv for gaming ? Don't most console owners have a second tv ? I can imagine some of the fights that could arise if the GF wants to watch something and I'd want to play just one more level...
I'm not even sure I expect there to be many ports at all, simply because of the CPU differences between the consoles. Even PS<->X360 ports will likely be far less common then last generation.
I dont see the Wii having to depend too much on ports. As I've shown earlier, developers seem more interested in making content for the Wii than any other console atm.
That's certainly the case with the Japanese developers and Ubisoft is fully onboard for the Wii as well. I also believe that EA will be releasing more launch games for the Wii than PS3.
It really doesnt make sense not to develop for the Wii- certainly not at the outset. It's going to have plenty of consoles available at launch, whereas the PS3 is going to have widespread shortages. Hardware sales drive game development and Nintendo will have the advantage based on supply alone for months after launch.
Not to mention development costs. It's a much more proven platform, single CPU, graphics engine that's basically a faster cube engine. It's likely that much of the development software will be reusable. And while the weaker graphics engine means less shiny graphics, it also means less expensive artist time.
Low pricetag, expected to be in plentiful supply, familiar development engine, control system that can be used in dynamic new ways or the old familiar one, plus the possibility to re-sell old games via download. I can see why devs would be excited about the machine. I can certainly see why I should be excited about it. If anything, I'm much more grim about the prospects for the X360 and especially the PS3.
Some new screens, this game is really shaping up nicely.
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...8055012400.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...8055014103.jpg
http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...8055015400.jpg
A few nice new video's, it looks fantastic and most importantly very fun. Supposedly the player can thrust the character into bullettime mode, that is just way too much awesomeness.
Leave it to the ubigods :2thumbsup:
Probably be a heck of a lot more immersive too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
That's assuming it works well, of course...
Woman playing with her Wii. (Yeah, I went there) :shame:
The website linked above is supposed to be videos of people using the Wii-mote for the first time by playing Wii sports. Nothing new really, but it does show how responsive the controller is... and we havent had any new Wii news here for awhile. :book: