Posties overstepping their bounds

This is disgusting. They are official government workers they do not get to decide what they deliver. It doesnt matter if its a pamphlet about the death toll in iraq or a message from your local KKK organization. You have a constitutional right to have your mail delivered, the postal worker has no right to destroy that.

As to the anti gay thing. Its the baptist church, what do you expect them to do article's on, the cost of christian zealotism?
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[Certain types of] Pornographic literature cannot be posted legally -- why should homophobic tirades be allowed??? If the postal workers discovered kiddy porn would it be their duty to deliver it?

EDIT: too sweeping a generalization....

I'm split on this matter...

On one hand, it is their duty to see the Mail delivered, regardless...

On t'other hand, anti-anything (similarly pro-anything) pamphlets on matters such as this (race, religion, gender, et al.) should not be permitted to be delivered (assuming the process for this sort of thing is the same in British North America as it is in the Mother Country)...

In which case, lobby for a law against the distribution of anti-gay pamphlets, don't just refuse to deliver them...

The law is there for a reason. If you think the speed limit is too low in some places, write to your MP and say so, get others to do the same, don't speed!

Of course a law against the posting of mail containing a certain moral view would be an abomination in my opinion, but if that's what you feel is right, get the law changed, don't break it.

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Originally Posted by Duke Malcolm

On t'other hand, anti-anything (similarly pro-anything) pamphlets on matters such as this (race, religion, gender, et al.) should not be permitted to be delivered (assuming the process for this sort of thing is the same in British North America as it is in the Mother Country)...

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Like Myrddaal said, the solution lies in the law, not in Postmen behaving badly. If you job is to deliver the mail, that's what you do. No exceptions.

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Originally Posted by Myrddraal

In which case, lobby for a law against the distribution of anti-gay pamphlets, don't just refuse to deliver them...

The law is there for a reason. If you think the speed limit is too low in some places, write to your MP and say so, get others to do the same, don't speed!

Of course a law against the posting of mail containing a certain moral view would be an abomination in my opinion, but if that's what you feel is right, get the law changed, don't break it.

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Yes, you have a good point...

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Like Myrddaal said, the solution lies in the law, not in Postmen behaving badly. If you job is to deliver the mail, that's what you do. No exceptions.

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Sure, but the people running the Nazi concentration camps were also just doing their jobs, where do you draw the line ?

I'll agree it should be drawn farther than distributing flyers though.

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Originally Posted by macsen rufus

[Certain types of] Pornographic literature cannot be posted legally -- why should homophobic tirades be allowed??? If the postal workers discovered kiddy porn would it be their duty to deliver it?

EDIT: too sweeping a generalization....

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Those certian types of literature can be mailed, just needs to be in a box. As for kiddy porn, come on thats against the law and sickening.
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Originally Posted by doc_bean

Sure, but the people running the Nazi concentration camps were also just doing their jobs, where do you draw the line ?

I'll agree it should be drawn farther than distributing flyers though.

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the people working at concentration camps did nothing wrong, it was the people they wre working for who were at fault, the same goes for posties, they should do ther job, its the ones who make them deliver flyers who are at fault

oops - just read the second line - still practicing my skim reading :(

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Originally Posted by Scurvy

the people working at concentration camps did nothing wrong, it was the people they wre working for who were at fault, the same goes for posties, they should do ther job, its the ones who make them deliver flyers who are at fault

oops - just read the second line - still practicing my skim reading :(

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You have got to be kidding me !!

If you do your job good, it doesn't mean you're doing the right thing.
On the one side you've got the job you do, on the other you've got a human being with emotions & ethics.

I'm sorry, but both Scurvy and Doc_Bean are in violation of Godwin's Law.

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Some people have way too much time on their hands :laugh4:

Who, moi? Why would you say such a thing?

Oh, and further research shows that they are in violation of Reduction ad Hitlerum. Bad Orgahs!

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Originally Posted by Lemur

I'm sorry, but both Scurvy and Doc_Bean are in violation of Godwin's Law.

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Someone mentioned Hitler or the Nazi's before in this, otherwise I wouldn't have brought this up, I'm well aware of Godwin's law and its consequences [EDIT: hey Mith, you do know your edit points to something don't you ? I appreciate its complete absurdness here though]

Well i'm afraid i have no idea what Godwins law or that Hitlerum thing, (obviously not enough time on my hands - unlike some people :2thumbsup: ) however i would argue that if someone is employed by any employer (yes, this includes the nazi's) and told to do something then they should do it, unless it breaches thier contract etc,

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Originally Posted by Lemur

I'm sorry, but both Scurvy and Doc_Bean are in violation of Godwin's Law.

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They aren't in violation...read the law again :p

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

They aren't in violation...read the law again :p

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This is the clause which I believe has been violated. Forty lashes to the criminals!

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Originally Posted by Godwin's Law

There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's Law.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

This is the clause which I believe has been violated. Forty lashes to the criminals!

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Yah, but the law says this:

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

So they were following Godwins law...you nazi, you.

That certainly sounds like something Hitler would agree with.

Are the actual pamphlets against the law?

Hate literature which contains passages to encourage violence against others is often illegal. In some countries using the government postal service as a means to transmit an article (contraband or even false invoices) that is involved in a crime is itself an offense.

So the pamphlet senders could be done for incitement and improper use of the postal system (by sending said incitement by mail). All depends on the local laws.

Now if there is a law against incitement and one for improper use of the mail system the postman I suppose could have the following scenarios:
i) by posting the information and telling the cops the haters could be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
ii) or by not telling the cops and posting it they could be aiding the crime.

Not sure on how this cake could be sliced let alone if it would rise, I'll leave that to our lawyers...