Trident to be renewed

In the next 25 years Russia isn't going to be trying to invade. Why bother? It's easier and cheaper to sell oil and gas to someone else.

And when would we nuke Russia? At the gates of Berlin? At the gates of Paris? Piccadilly Circus? :inquisitive: We kill thousands of relatively innocent people either in Russian cities, or nuke the armies and everything else nearby, and hope that the defence system that the Yanks are wasting money on investing in will save us from the 100's coming the other direction.

China is the same, but more so. There's Russia above, South Korea, Japan and America who are all either physically closer or politically more involved. So where does us nuking them come into it? They can do far more damage at the moment by merely threatening to sell, or even just not purchase dollars.

Nope, conventional forces is where the time and money are required. A small stockpile is possibly justified if we really feel we need to rattle the sabre. But that's a far cry from saying we need some massive subs to do it with. Nuclear bunkers don't alter that much. They are in essence a reinforced hole in the ground. Little short of nukes can touch the current ones. Let's have a few of them and spend the rest on I dunno, some decent jeep replacements, ammo and body armour would be at the top of my list at the moment.

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