out of print, I suppose. but I did find another good one. I need to get wise on some of these.
McShane, Roger B. The Foreign Policy of the Attalids of Pergamum. Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1964.
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out of print, I suppose. but I did find another good one. I need to get wise on some of these.
McShane, Roger B. The Foreign Policy of the Attalids of Pergamum. Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1964.
Zaknafien, here at the university we have that title:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaknafien
Hansen, Esther Violet: The Attalids of Pergamon, 2nd edition, 1973
So if you want some photocopies, just let me know...
Regards - PTB
PS:
Currently reading: Hannibal - le rêve inachevé, Histoire Antique, Hors-Série No. 11. Nice overview.
PPS:
ad BB: Haefs too "punophil"? Perhaps the lecture of the following title will change your verdict: Rom und Karthago von Klaus Zimmermann...
PPPS:
My favourite historical fiction with background in Antiquity:
(1) Lugal - Josef Nyary. I wish they would make a movie... and it's only available in German. Love, Hate, Gods, Family ties, War and Peace in Ancient Mesopotamia. This is one of the few books capable to change your perspective on life in a significant way.
(2) Shining company - Rosemary Sutcliff. Even better than the Eagle of the Ninth.
(3) Hannibal - Gisbert Haefs
(4) Eagle in the Snow - Wallace Breem.
(5) Adler über Gallien - Hermann Stresau
(6) Eagle of the Ninth - Rosemary Sutcliff
(7) Gates of Fire - Steven Pressfield
(8) Roman Blood - Steven Saylor
(9) Nimrods letzte Jagd - Josef Nyary
(10) Ich zog mit Hannibal - Hans Baumann
(11) The Ten Thousand - Michael Curtis Ford
(12) Ben Hur - Lewis Wallace
(13) Quo vadis - Henryk Sienkiewicz
(14) Fremde Segel vor Salamis - Geza Hégedüs
PPPPS: Apropos Pressfield - What do you think of his Alexander-Books?
I enjoy reading Prehistoric Dacia by Nicolae Densusianu .
Is about the geto-dacians.
It has been first published in 1913 in Romania and for the first time translanted in english.
You can find her at this web adress :
www.pelasgians.bigpondhosting.com
Reading this book is a “must” for all those interested
in the birth and evolution of European and Eastern Mediterranean civilizations. :book:
Apropos Pressfield- I thought that his book Alexander was one of his weakest. Mary Renault's have never been beaten. IMHO. One problem with Pressfield is that he chose to narrate it with Alexander's own voice, which is presumptive and less sympathetic. Also the 'Lost Autobiography' shtick has been done too many times, and only the masters and originators of the method (Graves) can really pull it off. I have kept my copies of Gates of Fire and Tides of War and reread them all the time. ALexander and the Last Amazon went to Oxfam after I read them once.
In terms of pure quality of historical fiction writing, it's hard to surpass Dorothy Dunnett and her 8 volume House of Niccolo series and 6 volume Crawford of Lymond series. Totally the wrong time period but well worth a look anyways. Patrock O'Brian is always good as well as George MacDonald Fraser.
The classics are hard to beat:
Robert Graves; I Claudius, Claudius the God, Count Belisarius and Hercules My Shipmate.
Mary Renault; Fire from Heaven, The Persian Boy, Funeral Games, The Mask of Apollo, the Last of the Wine, The Bull From the Sea
Gore Vidal; Julian, Creation
Anthony Burgess, The Kingdomof the Wicked
Some Newbies:
Stephen Pressfield, The Tides of War, Gates of Fire
Colleen McCullough, Fortune's Favourites, The Grass Crown, The First Man in Rome, Caesar's Women, Caesar
I didnt say "too", i said "a bit". "Hannibal" has been the first book i read that depicted punic culture in a rather postive way and after 6 six years of roman "propaganda" in latin classes i was pretty surprised by Haefs´point of view (his interpretation of the Ebro contract, newborn/child sacrifices etc.).Quote:
Originally Posted by Namenlos
I'm currently reading quite a few books for school right now:
- Augustus' Res Gestae for Latin class
- Plato's Απολογία Σωκράτους for Greek class
- Prods Oktor Skjaervo's An Introduction to Old Persian, Briant's From Cyrus to Alexander, and Wiesenhofer's Ancient Persia for Old Persian Language and Culture
- Xenophon's Κύρου Παιδεία for my Senior Honor Thesis
And with the little spare time I get, I'm working my way through:
Martin Bernal's Black Athena, Khalen Hosseini's Kite Runner, Robert Peters' Getting What You Came For, Neville Morley's Writing Ancient History, and Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. I'm insane, I know.
HISTORY
I'm skimming through Rostovtzeff's Social and Economic History of the Roman Empire, Mommsen's Romische Geschiche (sp?), and Syme's Roman Revolution (after already reading them once) as I'm writing an historiography paper on them.
I'm also reading a slew of stuff on Mycenaean civilization, the end of the Bronze Age, and the Sea Peoples for my MA thesis.
Off-and-on I find myself reading and re-reading Plutarch's Lives and Herodotus' Histories right now.
And I'm re-reading Victor Davis Hanson's Carnage and Culture in preparation for his newer book on decisive battles.
FICTION
Just finished reading Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy, and am halfway through Robert E. Howard's The Conquering Sword of Conan.
And I just started Dan Simmons' Hyperion.
Oh, and I almost forgot, I'm re-reading John Locke's Two Treatises on Government, but that doesn't count as fiction.
Hi Oudysseos,Quote:
Originally Posted by oudysseos
thank you for your quick assessment of the latest Pressfield books (and sorry for this late reply). So why do guys like Saylor, Pressfield or Ford continue to finish one new book per annum? Simply "auri sacra fames" or caught in a contract trap?
Concerning Vidal I completely agree - read his "Julian" during my childhood and after having read "Gods and Legions" by Ford I read it once more a year ago. What a difference!
But Dunnett's Niccolo? Hm, I bought the 4 or 5 books up to Timbouktou at once cause I like the period - only to discover that I couldn't get pass Niccolo's arrival in Italy. Thus I ran the first of my two Ebay auctions as a seller so far - salvaging 10 percent of the original prices ... And now you tell me I really did miss something? :wall:
A simllar experience with Mary Renault. Had read the Leonidas story and wasn't impressed at all. So I should read her Alexander works?
In general - thank you for your hints.
Regards - PTB
PS: Ad BB - oh - nichts für ungut, hoffe ich. Auch "De viris illustribus" geschädigt? :beam:
hehe, good ol´ Nepos, the only thing i liked about him was the fact that his work is easy to translate. "cena trimalchionis", that is nice latin text...~DQuote:
PS: Ad BB - oh - nichts für ungut, hoffe ich. Auch "De viris illustribus" geschädigt?
Hi!
I am reading right nowbySpoiler Alert, click show to read:.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I like a lot this historical fiction novel about the life of Cicero. From what I have read on the internet it is going to be a trilogy. I like a lot how they portrait al the important characters like Crassus, Pompey, Caesar, Lucullus, and Cicero himself.
Thanks=)
Many thanks for your generous review of my “D. Sebastião e o Vidente” and for pointing out all the most important characteristics of my writing. I spent almost 3 years in the making of this book, researching endlessly for each matter, and I wrote 9 different versions… Your understanding of this hard work has granted you my eternal gratitude!
Deana Barroqueiro
Wow, I would definitely buy a copy of that now if it was available in English. Thanks for letting us know about the book Joao and thanks for showing up and saying "hi" Deana! :2thumbsup: The internets is amazing! :grin:
I just bought "Roma: The novel of ancient Rome" by Steven Saylor while I was at the airport. Its very nice if unorthodox. The novel is really a series of novellas set at different times throughout the history of Rome, from 1000 BCE to the days of Augustus. The characters are all interconnected and part of the same family lines, showing the evolution of the city from cross-roads trading post on the salt and metal trade routes, to the capital of the world.
Interestingly, Saylor posits theories on how many of Rome's oldest traditions and stories came about, and they are very realistic and plausible. The tale of Hercules' visit and slaying of the monster Cocus is probably my favorite, but there are also excellent pieces on Romulus and Remus, Coriolanus, the Twelve Tables, etc.
Currently reading Vergil's Georgics in Latin for my independent study with my professor. Granted, I'm only 135 lines in with no glossary, but there is some good stuff in those lines alone.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think there is a solid reference to crop rotation, which makes sense because you could theoretically use the work as a manual to run a small farm.
Nero's Killing Machine: The True Story of Rome's Remarkable 14th Legion by Stephen Dando-Collins.
He's done three books now about different legions. It's a nice read with some good history and these books give you a good feel for the time period.
Galen on Pharmacology: Philosophy, History and Medicine : Proceedings of the Vth International Galen Colloquium, Lille, 16-18 March 1995 (Studies in Ancient Medicine, V. 16) by Armelle Debru and France) International Galen Colloquium 1995 (1997)
Galen on the Brain: Anatomical Knowledge and Physiological Speculation in the Second Century Ad (Studies in Ancient Medicine) by Julius Rocca and Galen (2003)
Galen and Galenism: Theory and Medical Practice from Antiquity to the European Renaissance (Collected Studies, Cs710.) by Luis Garcia-Ballester, Jon Arrizabalaga, Montserrat Cabre, and Lluis Cifuentes (2002)
Pseudo Hecataeus, "On the Jews": Legitimizing the Jewish Diaspora (Hellenistic Culture and Society) by Bezalel Bar-Kochva (1997)
Assyrians: from Bedr Khan to Saddam Hussein: Driving into Extinction the Last Aramaic Speakers by Frederick A. Aprim (2006)
The Lower Stratum Families in the Neo-assyrian Period (Culture and History of the Ancient Near East) by Gershon Galil (2007)
Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (H) (Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the Univers) by Martha T. Roth and A. Leo Oppenheim (1970)
Iamblichus on the Mysteries of the Egyptians, Chaldeans, and Assyrians by Thomas Taylor (1997)
Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles (Texts from Cuneiform Sources) by Albert Kirk Grayson (2000)
I read nothing as fancy as you all... I'm only 15...
My latest was Caesar by Christian Meier: a literal dissection of his life (at least in my opinion) and I'm reading for the fourth time The Twelve Caesars by Suetonius.
It really is a great book, about a subject most people don't even consider but one of my favourites. It really is a pity that it isn't translated to English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
Deana, I'll reply to your PM as soon as I can. :bow:
@Urnamma: Now you're just showing off :clown:
"The Normans in Sicily" by John Julius Norwich
"The Children of Húrin" by J. R. R. Tolkien.
EDIT: Oh, and "Ensaios de História Medieval Portuguesa" (Essays on Portuguese Medieval History) by A. H. Oliveira Marques. Essentially a collection of articles on subjets such as currency, shipping, demographics, trade routes, feudal armies and economic laws in medieval Portugal. Very interesting stuff.
Got 3 new books today:
"The Roman Nobility" Matthias Gelzer
"War and Imperialism in Republican Rome: 327-70 B.C." William V. Harris
"The Roman Middle Class in the Republican Period" Herbert Hill;
Currently enjoying....
The Generalship of Alexander The Great by J.F.C. Fuller
The Campaigns of Alexander by Arrian..(translated of course)
Heyyyyy... I loved JFC Fuller so much I bought a copy of Generalship after I read it in the library!
On to relevant matters.
I am currently reading:
Cavalry Operations in the Ancient Greek World by Robert Gaebel
In Search of the Lost Roman Legions by Tony Clunn
I am enjoying a book by Robin Lane Fox, called The Classical World, an epic history of Greece and Rome. It is fairly detailed and builds a picture of the customs and everyday life, as well as covering the main historical events. My soft cover book is 700 pages and I have got as far as page 292, and am just coming up on Pyrrhos and his adventures.
It is available at amazon:
http://http://www.amazon.com/Classical-World-History-Homer-Hadrian/dp/0465024963/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9676965-9197617?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1177809292&sr=8-1
/Sygrod
I'm reading a book I got recently called The Times: History of war.
It's hard to say if this book good as a whole.
Well, In his aproach to the Classical period, this book pretty much sucks (claims of every Gaul fighting without armor or naked and being ruled by a small noble calss).
Howerver, in late medieval/renaissence and Napolionic wars and afterwards it's quite good.
So I guess if you're looking for a good book on Classical history don't buy it.
Cheers...
Man buying a book named "History of Warfare" is just begging for the book to suck :beam: it's a vast subject. My advice to you is, concentrate on a specific subject rather than over-encompassing ones.
Finished Sons of Húrin, so now I'm reading The Crusades Through Arab Eyes by Amin Maalouf. Slightly biased (of course, he uses Muslim historians exclusively - no offence here, it's just a fact) but so far I'm enjoying the book immensely. Good purchase and not too expensive either.
Imperium, by Robert Harris. As others said, I believe, it's a good book, which concentrates more on the rhetorical strength of a man, than is capacity for leadership.
De historische Mohammed - Hans Jansen. Not got into it properly yet (it's two books), but it seems like a very good historical analysis of Mohammed. Probably rather controversial.
Gradually working through Cities in civilization - Peter Hall. It's a big, fascinating monster.
Im also reading the The classical world by Robin Lane Fox. Its a good read for anyone interested in the period which i assume every here is. I just got up to the classical period and despite being brief in places i think it can be forgiven for the scope he attempts to cover. I also find the he looks through the eyes of Hadrian rather interesting.