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Wtf..."The Senate wishes for your leader to commit suicide or you will be outlawed"
This came around fast. I still have some Britons to kill. No way in hell am I killing off my leader, he's one of my best. The Senate hates me and the plebs love me but I can't take Rome as I have no real forces in Arretium to deal with the Senate armies. What should I do? Obey the senate and attack once I build an army up or ignore them and hope the Brutii and Scipii don't join in the attack?
Depends. I'd tell the Senate to "FABRICATI DIEM, PVNCS!", you can probably survive anything the AI can throw at you. But if you're feeling cautious then accepting the suicide and building a fresh army in northern Italy would be the safe and certain plan. You'll only have a few extra turns before this happens again, from what I've read.Quote:
Originally Posted by César Victor
Do you know where the Brutus and Scipio armies are? Unless they have significant armies in south Italy, I doubt they'll be an urgent problem for you. Depending on what happened in north Africa you might even be able to nick a cheap city or two off the Scipios.
For future reference, when you see high pleb popularity combined with decreasing Senate popularity, it's a good idea to build a top of the line full stack army or two in your starting provinces. Also, if you want to make the civil war easier try bribing small to medium sized armies from the other Roman factions. You should have money to burn by now, may as well use it.
Hi again,
The best option is to let the leader commit suicide. This will buy you about 10-20 turns to get your senate standing up and to get yourself a strong force in the Italian Peninsula and on your borders with the other Roman factions. If you fail to be able to evade the senate's suicide orders then keep on letting your family die till you are ready for them on the defence. Just make sure that you label your worst generals as heirs - this help you get rid of them faster. When you are ready refuse their orders and prepare for a terrible assault on all fronts. Good luck and cheers!
If you have stockpiles of cash, bribe one of the big roman armies (the Senate always has a full stack near Rome). Don't forget you can actually use bribed Roman armies. They don't disband like bribed barbarian armies. Build other units asap in the provinces close to Italy, ship as many units over to Italy as well.
Expect your income to drop once you are at war with the Roman families and the Senate. You might consider taking a defensive attitude towards the britons, whatever units you don't need on your northern front, you can try to get to Italy or disband to save money.
The civil war is a very intresting episode in your campaign. Enjoy it ~:cheers:
Don't suicide your faction leader. Make those quarreling old women of the Senate bow for you :whip:
Cesar:
I am also playing a Julii campaign right now and I'm at about the same stage in the game as you are. Rome, however, is now mine as is Capua to the south. I'm also on the offensive against the Scipii as all of Sicily, Carthage and a couple of other provinces in N. Africa are now mine as well.
Against the Brutii, (in the frontier provinces northeast of Italy) I am currently maintaining a defensive 'come & get me' posture. Much to my delight - as I anticipated they would - the boys in green continue to waste good men in their attempts to scale my walled cities. :wall: FOOLS! It's just a matter of time before attrition begins to work in my favor. Trading one of my guys for 5 or 6 of theirs suits me just fine.
But back to the matter at hand: WATCH OUT for a demand from the Senate that you give them some of your hard earned 'moola' (denarii). They don't just want 'some' of it for appeasement - they want a whole bunch! I was rolling along with a nice bankroll of D 200,000 and then 'BAM', all of a sudden I was down to D 18,000! The thing is, I don't remember clicking on a consent window to allow SPQR to have access to my funds. Oh well. The word is now out - I'm looking to hang the accountants up on the tree of woe along with their buddies from the Senate.
I decided I wasn't happy with the situation and reloaded an old save from two years prior to this event. I recaptured all the land I previously owned and started building up armies in Arretium and surrounding areas. While I'm doing this, I'm placing some Diplomats around some Scipii and Brutii captains, getting ready for some hardcore bribery and putting a small army outside Thassalonica (Brutii). I noticed Rome is only protected by a unit of 1st Legionaries, a general and his bodyguard and a unit of Praetorian sitting idly. I've decided to send a young general and a few cavalry units (as well as a couple of well placed spies inside Rome's walls) so that in one swift move I can take almost all of Italy, kill the Senate's leader, capture it's capitol and capture an eagle.
Can't wait :D I just wish those Romans would ditch the Onagers. They mash up your nicely lined up Legions. No fair.
I am sure that you can mod the AI of all factions to cause them to be less agressive and use less siege in their unit choices.
I have conquered all of Italy woopwoopi! This shall make an interesting AAR when I come to make it. 15 more provinces and I have my first campaign finished :2thumbsup:
Well done Ceasar, but beware the Brutii in Greece! If you ever feel the need to end combat ask the Scipii for a ceasefire and an alliance. They, having not fought you or having no reason to continue combat, could possibly end the war. Once you have an alliance with them the Brutii will probably automatically end the fighting. If they attack you then is a large chance that the Scipii may automatically side with you and end all alliance treaties with the Brutii henceforth gaining you another valuable ally for the true Roman cause - if you are lucky they may even join you in assaults on those cursed Brutii! Also if you ever manage to keep at peace with the Brutii/Scipii then take the settlements that rebel from them. This is a good way of taking allied provinces without creating enemies or paying for them - I used this tactic against the Scipii during my Julii campaign. Good luck with your civil war!
I have a headache. Fighting on two fronts is leaving me stretched. I have my heir in the Belgium area trying to gain control the last 5 or so British lands (which won't stop rebelling) and I am also conquering Sicily with another general. Maybe I should have read Omanes advice earlier and made an alliance. No chance of that now :dizzy2: I have about 13 provinces to go then I can finally move on from the Julii after almost 1 1/2 month of playing as them!
Cesar:
Regarding the rebellion in those British provinces - sounds to me like it's time to move out, let the brigands take over and then move back in. Spare no one! Don't occupy, don't take slaves... exterminate. They will get in line for a while freeing you up to worry about more important matters of empire.
How much money do you have? If in a good financial situation, follow Andresthecunning's advice - to bribe the Brutii&Scipii armies.
If you're short of income, I'd say charge down the Greece, exterminate a couple of the cities there (don't worry, you can still get a good amount of population LATER, by putting a governor in the city, removing all other governors from their cities, and enslaving the next town you capture; all the slaves will go to the city with the governor)
Then destroy all the buildings in the city and leave. The City will eventually rebel, and you'll have loads of cash.
Looking forward to the AAR!
I think my biggest problem is the lack of a real Roman army on my frontline. The under the command of my heir is made up of mercenaries and a few Roman Cavalry. Not too good. The nearest big town to me where an army can be built is Alesia but it would take atleast 3 turns to get back there.
Then I'd build an army in Alesia, and have it led by a captain. In the end, it all boils down to your capacity as a general - be it a captain or a member of the family who leads the army. And anyway soon enough you'll probably get a proposition to adopt the captain, so....
If you are struggling to hold all fronts then you could attempt to retreat backwards, by abandoning your settlements, so that Alesia is on the front line, then armies can get to the front easily. Also train up large full stack armies from your towns in Italy, rally them together and send them to the front line, by ship, to battle with the Brutii. I also suggest you leave the Scipii and send the armies that you have in their lands to attack the Brutii. At current they are not a threat to you and if you leave them alone then it may be easier to achieve the peace later. Focus on defending against Britain and destroying the Brutii. It is often best to try to only focus on one enemy at a time rather than attacking multiple enemies on several fronts. Good luck.
Damn, these were sweet victories;
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Thought I'd share them with you.
Congratulations Cesar! Carry on like that and the Scipii will eventually bow down to you as the true Emperors of the Roman World!
How are things going elsewhere?
I'm going alright; 9 more provinces and I've met the victory conditions. I have a couple of rebellions going on but I'll make sure those who dare defy me are put to the sword :2thumbsup:
I really wanna get this campaign finished ASAP. I want to give another faction a turn, I'm sick of these Romans after a month+ of playing as em!
I would take my armies out of all my spanish provinces an wait till they rebel.Then try and take them back if you do exterminate both settlements.Then send all your forces to try and take Spain and rebuild from there.Hope i helped.
Oh bugger. I underestimated the Brutii. They've snuck up on me, taken Segestica and are threatening Patavium. They have armies with about 5 Praetorian in + legionary and cavalry. Sheet.
Hi again,
Now the best option Cesar is to train an huge army in Italy to deal with them. Rally them up in the North and defend everything you have with three or above full stacks. After that go on a rampage with all of your three stacks and take as many settlements as you can. Leave behind about half a stack at a time to defend the settlements. Try to keep them together, however. This may be slower, but it guarantees that the Brutii cannot usually beat them. Good luck!
Couldn't agree more. I'm ready to move on. I'm thinking about playing one of the more challenging factions in the far east. (Parthia). How about you?Quote:
Originally Posted by César Victor
Heh, I've been thinking the same for ages! I want to my make my full length AAR on the Parthians.
I may end up having to pay off the Brutii. They're too strong. I have no idea where theyre getting these armies fulla Praetorians from. The Scipii aint much of a problem. They only have about 4-5 provinces left.
Now is the best time to strike down those pesky Scipii! If you need nine provinces try to get them from further North and from the Scipii. I also suggest you try to create riots using spies in the Brutii's larger cities - that should stop the Pretorians and keep them away for a while till they get them back. In the meantime train huge full stacks in Italy and get 'em to the front line as fast as you can. Also try and gain the British provinces that border with the enemy. That will stop them from tactically flanking you and giving you a new frontier to defend. Good luck!
If you do happen to create & write an AAR - especially on the Parthians, I'll be observing very closely. Looking forward to reading it - and - good luck with your final end-game with those pesky Brutii! ~:cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by César Victor
I'm split between the Parthians and the Germans and I'm inclined to go with the latter because I heard the Parthians are rock hard to play as. I shall see.
My campaign is going awesomely. TWO more provinces to capture. Yeah, TWO! How'd I manage that you say? Very, very sweetly :D
I captured all of Sicily and Africa from the Scipii, destroying them. Even though my Gaulic cities are taking a beating, I took my African army across the sea to Greece, carefully fighting and evading the Brutii fleets before finally landing and taking all of the cities below Thessalonica. I'm now aiming to take back a heavily guarded Patavium and use my Greek forces to capture Rhodes. I also have to keep the Brutii offa my land in Gaul- I'm hanging on by a thread!
I wish I could get some pics up but the computer I use for RTW has no internet connection. By the time I return, I may well have finished my first campaign!
Nicely done! I myself would not have the patience of evading the fleets as you did. I'd recommend gauging the strength of the defenders in Rhodes, and assaulting with a relatively proportionned army. Once you get that, your financial gain will rise sky high!
Can't wait for your next AAR!
Neither can I. Good luck Cesar!
How does the phrase go... 'Discretion is the better part of valor'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
I too wasn't much into evasive sea tactics until the time I had a fleet that got jumped - with a three-quarter stack army on board no less - and then sunk with all hands lost at sea. I was, shall we say, not very happy. ~:pissed:
Since then (when sea-lifting armies) I've learned to either have a strong fleet or two in the vanguard to "plow the road" or make judicious use of the good 'ol art of evasion.
Cesar:
I too have heard that Parthia can be quite challenging from a financial management and army unit type point of view. Oh well - I guess I'll find out in the not-too-distant future. I'll let you know if I get my rear-end handed to me.
Woo! I finished it! I had to go outa my way and capture some Egyptian cities cause the damn Brutii attacked my Greek cities but meh, no biggie. I feel this campaign was nicely done, albeit very cheaply done at the end. For now, I'm leaving this campaign faaar behind. Bloody headaches I got from it. *sigh*
As for now, I am split between the Germans, the Parthians or a BI campaign. I'm going to give the Parthians a go and if I find it too tough, I'll revert to the Germans.