Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
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Originally Posted by Ludens
I can see the logic behind it, but it doesn't necessarily follow that a Seleucid king would take Makedon and Egypt in short order. Especially not since Makedon is an ally and the Seleucids do not lack enemies in other theatres.
Well it could also be macedon that takes his body back to Pella, they can do it as well. Or you could wait till you have Pella. Or you could wait till you beat the Ptolemaics, THEN go to war with whoever has Pella and bring his body back then. He's dead, and not going anywhere else soon. Dunno about Baktria or Greece but I doubt they can bring his body back too..
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
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Originally Posted by Fondor_Yards
Well it could also be macedon that takes his body back to Pella, they can do it as well. Or you could wait till you have Pella. Or you could wait till you beat the Ptolemaics, THEN go to war with whoever has Pella and bring his body back then. He's dead, and not going anywhere else soon.
Yes, but my query was specifically concerned with the Seleucids. Also, although Alexander may not be going anywhere, you have to conquer Pella before the Nikesas Alexandrias dies, as he's the only one who can bring him back.
Edit: before you get the wrong idea, I do like these missions and in fact I wish there were more like them. I am just wondering at the restrictions, but I guess they are limitations of the R:TW trait-system.
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
What would be examples of historically plausible missions of this type?
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
If you don't tear down the tomb, and the guy who conquered and governed the city dies... Then a hundred years later, could you tear down the tomb of Alexander and ship that governor at that time to Pella? Or does it have to be the conqueror?
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
If you don't tear down the tomb, and the guy who conquered and governed the city dies... Then a hundred years later, could you tear down the tomb of Alexander and ship that governor at that time to Pella? Or does it have to be the conqueror?
That's what I was going to explain to Ludens. You don't have to destroy the tomb right away. You can wait until you conquer Pella and then whatever general is sitting in Alexandria will get the mission when you destroy the tomb.
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
Let me go this over again, just to make sure. So the "Nikesas Alexandrias" trait is really just akin to the Qarthie "Conqueror of Syracuse/Rome" "feel-good" reward traits, and as such has no bearing on the "Return Alex" quest proper which is 'triggered', at basically any time, by destroying the tomb building in Alexandria... right ?
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Originally Posted by Sdragon
Use Thorakitai Argyraspidai instead, they look cooler and are more manly than the hypaspistai.
...so, they're bad enough dudes to save the Basileos ?
:shifty:
...what ?
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
No, no, no "Nikesas Alexandrias" is very important, but you have to keep in mind that it will trigger for all generals that stay for at least a turn in Alexandria with the tomb still there. It will turn into "Alexandros Recovered" when you destroy the tomb and end the turn. Then you can make the journey to Pella.
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
Hey guess I just figured it out!
Alright most of us here know that the populations of major cities you capture like Rome, Syracuse, Antiocheia, Seleukeia, etc. tend to boom after you either enslave or exterminate them. Well in my current Seleukid campaign I accidently caused Alexandria-in-Egypt to revolt after I destroyed the temple of Sarapis ( a lot of them worshipped Sarapis apparently :laugh4: ) and tried to replace it with a temple to Seleukos. Well the next turn the city revolted and I didn't have enough money to repair everything (playing on h/m here) so I took out my entire garrison and the turn after there was a civil revolt.
Naturally the city revolted back to Ptolemaioi control so a full stack of their soldiers magically appeared and attacked the garrison I had placed outside of the city. The governor and the garrison easily defeated them, and the next turn I stormed Alexandria and wiped out the populance.
In addition to all the mnai I got my governor recieved the "Nikeias Alexandria" trait! Now the city is easily managed and I got a nice infusion into my depleted treasury. So guys what I'm saying is if you want to take the mission later and the original Nikeias Alexandria guy is either too old or dead just let the city revolt and have the young rising general you want to send over to Macedonia come in and capture the city after it's revolted. It worked for me and i'm planning to try it out again in the future. :smash:
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
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Originally Posted by BozosLiveHere
No, no, no "Nikesas Alexandrias" is very important, but you have to keep in mind that it will trigger for all generals that stay for at least a turn in Alexandria with the tomb still there. It will turn into "Alexandros Recovered" when you destroy the tomb and end the turn. Then you can make the journey to Pella.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation.
Re: A question about Seleukid reforms for .81
I have a question.
Historically this reform was done by Antiochus III Megas?
The reform was done between the timeframe of Raphia and Magnesia?