Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
I've benchmarked it in its raw, untweaked form. It got 8337 in 3d mark 06. Kind of low for the type of machine it is. The CPU test brought it to its knees; I got 0FPS on the first one, 1FPS on the second. That's terrible! In all the other demos I was getting a steady 20FPS, frequently more.
It's funny you should say that - I had the same issue when I benchmarked mine a couple of days ago. I was doing a 'before' test before I went through with the tweaks suggested in this thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=79749) for Dual Cores. The two CPU tests just ground it to halt almost.
I haven't had time to do the tweaks yet but I found it a little strange.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
The frog got angry :shocked3: Perhaps you could just send Aria a hairpin in an envelope if the polite ways fail to get your refund. :wink:
I also had problems when I bought a PC online. It took a while before I got any notification of when it was ready. I called them up and then they said it could be picked up somewhere. My dad happened to go near that place only to found out that they couldn't find my computer. They somehow quickly got a PC with the right specifications. A bit weird, but I was glad that my first online purchase wasn't a complete disaster.
A few weeks later I got a note from the postman that I could something up at the post office. So I went there and behold, the clerk came back with a box of the size of a PC tower. I was a bit suprised as I already got my computer, however my suprise grew even bigger when it became clear that the clerk expected me to just pick it up and go home without paying a single dime.
So I did and after waiting for a few more weeks to see if the mistake was discovered I sold the computer to my parents for half price and was satisfied that my first online purchase turned out to be a complete success! :grin:
Goodluck!
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
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Originally Posted by Duke John
The frog got angry :shocked3: Perhaps you could just send Aria a hairpin in an envelope if the polite ways fail to get your refund. :wink:
I also had problems when I bought a PC online. It took a while before I got any notification of when it was ready. I called them up and then they said it could be picked up somewhere. My dad happened to go near that place only to found out that they couldn't find my computer. They somehow quickly got a PC with the right specifications. A bit weird, but I was glad that my first online purchase wasn't a complete disaster.
A few weeks later I got a note from the postman that I could something up at the post office. So I went there and behold, the clerk came back with a box of the size of a PC tower. I was a bit suprised as I already got my computer, however my suprise grew even bigger when it became clear that the clerk expected me to just pick it up and go home without paying a single dime.
So I did and after waiting for a few more weeks to see if the mistake was discovered I sold the computer to my parents for half price and was satisfied that my first online purchase turned out to be a complete success! :grin:
Goodluck!
The joys of companies with shoddy paperwork.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
Kukri, the best news about Aria is that I can ignore them completely. The credit card company is required by law to assume responsibility for the bill, and to take action to get Aria to spit out a refund. If they never refund it won't be me who loses money, it will be the card company. This, understandably, makes them unhappy, so Aria is being chased by a massive rich company demanding money. :gring:
Sorry about being a bit OT, but I'm a bit puzzled about this. Aren't you taking responsibility for the bill ? Also, doesn't Aria have the right to refuse your canceling your order ? I'm not trying to be on their side or anything, I'd just like to try and understand your statement, because it frankly puzzles me.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
Got one annoying fly in the ointment: it won't turn itself off. As in, I tell it to shut down, it wombles through the shutting down procedures, then presents me with that ancient old screen, "It is now safe to shut down your PC". I have to turn it off by holding the power button for 5 seconds. Gah! Anyone know of a possible fix for this? I like being able to walk away, leaving it to turn itself off.
Fix that yet? I wonder if ACPI is enabled in your BIOS? If that checks out ok, you may want to take a look at this.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
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Originally Posted by Blodrast
Sorry about being a bit OT, but I'm a bit puzzled about this. Aren't you taking responsibility for the bill ? Also, doesn't Aria have the right to refuse your canceling your order ? I'm not trying to be on their side or anything, I'd just like to try and understand your statement, because it frankly puzzles me.
I would be (I'd already paid it in full, actually), and that would leave me unable to afford another computer until Aria coughed up the money they owe. However because I paid by credit card I have extra protection. To put it in a nutshell, in cases like this the credit card company assumes the responsibility for the bill and for taking further action against the troublesome company. It's a combination of consumer protection, distance buying regulations, and anti-fraud.
If I hadn't paid by credit card I'd be pretty much stuck. Yes, the law would be on my side, but there would be no one to shoulder the bill until (if!) the refund arrives, and I'd have one less big angry organisation hitting Aria with sticks on my behalf. This is why I always pay by credit card for anything like this.
Aria do not have the right to refuse to cancel my order. Under the distance selling act I am entitled to cancel at any time before I take delivery of the goods, and to ask for (and be granted) a full refund for any reason whatsoever, up to and including my deciding I simply don't want whatever it was. I can still ask for a refund within a couple of days of taking delivery. By law that refund absolutely must be given, and the response to the request must be prompt. Obviously, if I'm being frivolous and asking for a refund due to a reason which is not the seller's fault I have to pay the postage to send it back. If it has taken over 30 days since the order was placed aditional laws come into play to protect the consumer, unless the customer has agreed to wait longer than 30 days when they ordered the goods (e.g. buying something listed as a 4-6 week wait on amazon).
Incidentally Aria responded to one of my three refund requests today, 12 days after I sent it. They said (summed up) "Are you sure? Because we haven't put it through yet, and could get the PC to you for tomorrow." Utterly useless.
I also discovered that they now censor the names of other companies on their forum's PM system. I typed "novatech" and it came out as "some other place". That is so sad it is beyond words. So I did ye olde trick, and spelled it N o v a t e c h
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I wonder if ACPI is enabled in your BIOS? If that checks out ok, you may want to take a look at this.
By accident the BIOS had ACPI totally disabled when I installed XP, so it thinks my PC isn't capable when it is. I need to make XP recognise that it is ACPI compatable. I've a couple of ways of attempting this to try out; I'm waiting for my next day off.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
Ok, thank you for the detailed explanation, froggy.
And they must be real douchebags, censoring stuff to that extent on their forums. Sheesh.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
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Originally Posted by frogbeastegg
By accident the BIOS had ACPI totally disabled when I installed XP, so it thinks my PC isn't capable when it is. I need to make XP recognise that it is ACPI compatable. I've a couple of ways of attempting this to try out; I'm waiting for my next day off.
Let me know if you find a way around that. I had always been told it requires a reinstall... but I vaguely remember working around it a couple years back. Just don't ask me how I did it.... everytime I build a new PC it's like reinventing the wheel because it's been so long that I've forgotten most of the tricks I picked up last time. :wall:
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
The funny thing is that any company that has a forum thinking that its consumer base, past, present and future cannot, do not and will not talk about the companies actions on the forums at another forum let alone by chat, email, face to face over a cup of tea while knitting.
It is even more funny to see computer companies being willfully ignorant about the ability of their consumers to use other forums. :laugh4:
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
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Originally Posted by Xiahou
Let me know if you find a way around that. I had always been told it requires a reinstall... but I vaguely remember working around it a couple years back. Just don't ask me how I did it.... everytime I build a new PC it's like reinventing the wheel because it's been so long that I've forgotten most of the tricks I picked up last time. :wall:
The way to try and do it is as follows:
Make a system backup, as this has a good chance of going wrong.
Remove, and uninstall the drivers for, all unnecessary hardware, run driver cleaner to remove any graphics card drivers and then boot the machine. The prompts for drivers are best ignored. The next stage is to go into device manager and find the APM Compatible BIOS device and delete that. This will remove all other devices under it. You should then reboot and go into the CMOS setup and enable ACPI, and boot the system. When Windows starts it will re-detect all hardware, possibly restarting a few times. When all hardware has been re-detected, you should restart again. On booting up check there are no errors in device manager. If your motherboard needs a chipset driver you should install it at this point. The next stage is to shut down and replace and reinstall your other hardware one item at a time.
I have found this method to work on many occasions, though on some systems I've had less luck. If you're planning to format and reinstall anyway, you may as well try this first though.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
thanks for the info Frogbeastegg, i shall now go to NOVATECH:thumbsup: :turkey: :england:
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
I have used Novatech in the past and can recommend them. However, as with anything it's worth checking other sites for the best prices. I also use http://www.overclock.co.uk and http://www.komplett.co.uk
Novatech are selling the new AMD X2 6000 for £434.75
and Komplett sell the same chip for £285.01
I know where I'll be buying it from.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
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Originally Posted by Talbot
Novatech are selling the new AMD X2 6000 for
£434.75
£365.43 (and faster)
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
£330.01 for that chip here.
The reviews I read though showed the AMD X2 6000 to be quicker though and it's £50 cheaper.
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That is the only review I've had a short look at and it looks a lot like the 6000 is always slower and you will get higher energy costs while using it.~;)
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Cheers, I shall read that review.
Energy consumption is something I need to look at, it'll help win the girlfriend over when I convince her I need a new machine.
Re: To all UK residents: Avoid Aria Computers like the plague
Hey Froggy, I use Novatech those guys are great when it comes to supplying the goods promptly and reliably and at a half decent price.
As for your problems with Aria, I say talk to trading standards about them and tell them everything that has happened. They shouldn't be refusing a refund when you have not recieved the goods.
Escalate it to the authorities that be and make them squeal until they cave in.