The Hell you talkin' about, Dave ? :huh:
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The Hell you talkin' about, Dave ? :huh:
I'm speaking cryptically. If I use the words "muslim", "Quran", or "Muhammed" I'll get in trouble. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Watchman
Aye. But the point of real affluence is not a stratified society where the well-off live in closed, gated communities, but an egalitarian society where everybody can live in safety anywhere. Sorry, perhaps there's a clash of civilisations here. Anglo is Anglo and continental is continental, and ne'er the twain shall meet...Quote:
If you can't use your money to live in safety what is the point?
Or maybe that is just me putting up the usual egalitarian French charade. Dropping it and being more brutally honest: I'm not going anywhere, to hell with me moving just to live in safety. Why should I leave because of some hooded imbeciles with an attitude problem? It's my country, if you can't let me live in safety, you move. I'm staying put.
The tragic end result of this inner Le Pen kind of reasoning is, since they for their part certainly won't move either, that the weaker segments of immigrants are socially moved to here. (Commentary in English starts after some fifteen seconds of terrifyingly bad French rapmusic)
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I'm actually quite surprised to see the American media using this terminology. Youths is a direct translation of the French euphemism 'jeunes'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
It's silly. It renders you a useless translation. An American naturally is not acutely aware of all the associations, euphemisms and implicit meanings of the French language. So they'll be left unaware of the actual meaning of the word 'youths'. Any Fenchman will understand it as PC shorthand for 'troublesome young men of mainly west and north African origin'.
Hmmm, not entirely so. Islam is an aggravating aspect of the problems, but it's not the only one. I'd love to indulge you but I simply can not. Whatever one may think of Islam, and I'd be lying if I said that I'm unequivocally convinced of the benefits to our society by certain aspects of it, it is at worst one amongst many of the roots of our problems.Quote:
muslim
There is a large well-adapted Muslim middle-class too. Not all the rioters are Muslims, and certainly are not all Muslims rioters.
I don't know if this is a fair comparison, but this reminds me of the footage I saw on teh intarwebs where fans and even players at a soccer game beat the crap out of some rent-a-cops who brutalized a fan who ran onto the field waving a flag, being a minor disruptance. Video caught the rent-a-cops (hereinafter referred to as 'pigs') pinning the poor guy down and repeatedly punching him hard with fists and batons, probably for resisting the injuries that were being inflicted on him. A soccer player ended up jumping in and kicking one of the pigs in his face, and the fans who were also irate at what they were witnessing, moved in and "rescued" the guy, the pigs had to fight their way out. In my view, this is a poster child of social justice at work, where a larger group of people come to the aid of someone who is being beaten (tortured?) by others coming from a "legitimate" position of power. I am unable to determine if this is the same situation that friend Louis posted in this thread, but it seems rather close. Violence is never a good answer and should always be a last resort, but I do believe there are some cases where it is justified.
Edit - No Dave, actually I was referring to the cop in the first part of the article, who allegedly "manhandled" the kid that supposedly sparked all of this. Sorry, I just don't like cops in general.
So you're saying this lady getting her ass kicked by the "youths" somehow "caused" this to happen. Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
Louis, I wonder if you have seen today's papers with the statements of the Congolese man's lawyer and the minutes of his police interrogation which Le Monde apparently got hold of. Under interrogation he claims that the RATP (subway company) guard who first stopped him was very aggressive because he was from the Maghreb and apparently had a grudge against blacks. Nothing spectacular, but quite revealing if you want to understand how weird these incidents often are. I mean, maybe we had Maghreb youths rioting because 'one of their own' got it into his head to play racist copper and provoke a black man...
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Yes, I've heard. They were three Maghrebines. Most of the rioters apparently were blacks. Later joined by some Magrebines who thought it was an Arab that was attacked.
I don't know whether to laugh or weep.
Rebeus attacking keblas at garefrique du Nord. Did they all find a feuj to blame yet?
Since when did hordes of angry, idle young men with things to vent investigate matters to any degree before starting trouble ? Massive riots, even outright revolutions, have AFAIK been triggered by as little as untrue rumours in history.
Heh, looks like they could run Gareflic entirely without whites soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Flic!? Man, you sound like a social worker. You're two steps behind the street: flic <-> keuf <-> feuk. Feuk has the added benefit of sounding like a certain English word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
~D Point taken! I used Gareflic because it rhymes with Garefrique. I knew about keuf. Feuk I didn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
*books trip*
Shame on me, I was still using Keuf. Surely my friends will be pleased to learn that the new word for policeman is now feuk, it sounds so cutie and trendy ~:pat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat