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@Innocentius Your right in the fact that My measures are probably OTT but It works for me so Ill be sticking with it lol. I did forget to mention though I keep the invasion force beefed up until I have acheived what In need to ensure loyalty and then remove the Heavy troops once all of the above are in place, so for a while its a pretty crowded ireland...
You use almost the same measures as myself, though I use considerably smaller garrisons of 120 or 200 of the cheapest to support troops and never build border forts. Priests also have no effect on loyalty though they will of course convert opposing religions to your religion. Provinces such as Portugal are highly rebellious. The rebellious factors for provinces are as follows:Quote:
Originally Posted by gaiusjulii
Ireland: 1
Khazar: 1
Lithuania: 3
Livonia: 4
Pomerania: 1
Portugal: 4
Prussia: 2
Scotland: 2
Serbia: 1
All other provinces: 0
Livonia and Portugal are the worst, though Lithuania, Livonia and Prussia are very difficult to hold down for all factions due to Paganism. These provinces will always need larger garrisons, 'happy buildings' and a very high valour spy, until they're religiously converted and somewhat acclimatised to your sovereignty. They are the exception to the rule however and most provinces will only need the standard 100 man garrison.
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Interesting numbers, Cambyses. I confess I wasn't even aware that Khazar and Serbia were among the rebellious provinces. :bow:
Even after all these years I managed to make the old "invade Ireland with your king" mistake in my current campaign - with the added effect of being ex-commed, too! I managed to keep the numerous rebellions under control long enough to build the port to get him out of there (one benefit of small garrisions: small rebellions!) only to have the king die of illness the same year! Problem solved either way, I guess...
Does the Loyalty: X command line thing mentioned previously really work? (And what does it default to if you leave it blank?) I never knew about that...
And also, what is the point in having the map turn green for 100% loyalty, when you still need to check every province individually to ensure that it is above 120%? This makes things tedius...
That l20 is an option, whereas if something is yellow or red you have immediatedly to go and fix it. The rebellion risk starts at l00, not l20. The latter is just safe for influence drops
Depends on your MTW version. In vanilla MTW, default loyalty is 100%....which is too low. See below. In VI, the default loyalty rate is 120%, which renders auto-taxes MUCH more viable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zild
Are you sure? IIRC provinces may rebel and (more importantly) re-emergences may take place as long as loyalty is below 120%. Well, maybe the buffer wasn't sufficient, then, but I'm pretty sure the risk ceases only at 120%.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Unknown Guy
I´ve never had resurgences in my lands, so I´m not sure, but the game states that at a hundred there´s no rebellion risk. So maybe those resurgences are triggered by sudden successions, with a fall of influence, a subseçuent fall of loyalty, and a faction reemergence being triggered at the time, and getting those rebellions "join it" (In a turkish resurgence I saw, whereas the claimant himself was on a Golden Horde controlled province, one of the provinces "joining the rebellion" was a civil-warred GH rebel, and it immediatedly passed unto the hands of the turkish)
I have think that a faction can only re-emerge when a is below a 100%(i have only ever see one with this) But I think that if a province that was also held by the faction re emerging has 120% or below will join the revolt even if its showing as green on the loyalty. Thats my interpritation of the 120% rule as i have seen this happen plenty of times in my games as I actively allow rebellions for my personal enjoyment...