catapracht question

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Originally Posted by Thaatu

The VH AI Seleukids have more money than they can spend, literally, thus giving them more money wouldn't change a thing.

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Hmm, I suspect they might use extra money to bribe cities (with family members and substantial armies inside) on four successive turns, instead of two. That was the end of my first effort with the lengendarily wealthy Ptolemies, bought like candy by the cash-strapped Seleucids.

In my second game I put diplomats in every single one of my cities and got that bribery resistance trait for all of them. And I went for the AS by the throat, trying to destroy them before they got up to speed. And with troops asleep on their feet, I got Antiocheia on turn 3 then got Seleukeia in 266. I thought that was the end of their pike MICs and it'd be spears from then on... ...Until about 264, heading east from Ekbatana, I ran into a 15 stack merc army including 5 stacks of mercenary medium pikemen.

It's not so much the difficulty, I like a challenge. It's a realism/believability/immersion thing. Every half hour I'm thinking "oh this is just silly".

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Originally Posted by Morte66

Hmm, I suspect they might use extra money to bribe cities (with family members and substantial armies inside) on four successive turns, instead of two. That was the end of my first effort with the lengendarily wealthy Ptolemies, bought like candy by the cash-strapped Seleucids.

In my second game I put diplomats in every single one of my cities and got that bribery resistance trait for all of them. And I went for the AS by the throat, trying to destroy them before they got up to speed. And with troops asleep on their feet, I got Antiocheia on turn 3 then got Seleukeia in 266. I thought that was the end of their pike MICs and it'd be spears from then on... ...Until about 264, heading east from Ekbatana, I ran into a 15 stack merc army including 5 stacks of mercenary medium pikemen.

It's not so much the difficulty, I like a challenge. It's a realism/believability/immersion thing. Every half hour I'm thinking "oh this is just silly".

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Have you checked out Sheep's new money script https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=83349. Could be the answer to the unbalanced economy.

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Originally Posted by anubis88

So you can't trigger the marian reforms manually? I thought that that was possible in vanilla

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There are two types of Marian reforms:
1) The EB Marian reforms, you can find the requirement easily enough.
2) The Vanilla reforms which occur when a city in the Italian mainland reaches the 24K population limit. (Although Roma may not work due to some trick with province swapping. But I'm not sure of this.) So if you're not playing as Romani then you just gotta be patient and hope the AI doesn't spoil your game there. This reforms is used as a placeholder for all reforms of which the apropiate triggers haven't been added in properly (yet). And this is what you're waiting for when you're AS and want to have your cataphracts.

Therefore, the only way to trigger the Marian reforms on your own, is to play as Romani.

Crap!... The Romans expanded quite good for a while and confined carthage to lilibeo but Carthage struck back and reconquerd sicily and started conquering south Italy... The romans and Carthage are also fighting in Iberia but it seems that Carthage will get the upper hand since they are at war only with rome and rome is getting slowly i'ts ass kicked by an alliance of aedui arverni and lusotana...

I guess no catapract's then... i could REALLY REALLY use them right now since Egypt reconquered much of the Levant, KH is rushing on and they just conquered pergamon, lesbos, and nicea from me... Pontus started a war just now... Parthia is running over my forces in the east... and the sabyn are attacking mesopotamia.... The only thing remaining to destroy ist the Armenians starting a war...

So you see.... I could REALLY use the catapratchs:wall: !

Well thats VH/VH: welcome to the nightmere.

thanx:egypt:
I was tired of winnig easyly so this comes as a very pleasant surprise:laugh4:

I'm having a ruff time on VH/M so, it's a point of view and skills.

:laugh4: :whip:

Personally, I'm not into the whips-n-chains stuff. :balloon2:

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Originally Posted by Watchman

:laugh4: :whip:
Personally, I'm not into the whips-n-chains stuff. :balloon2:

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:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: me neither:laugh4:

yeaaaay!!! the catas magically appaered around 220 bc!! when i've already given up hope.... it seem they came to action at the same time than the macedonian reformed phalanx (can't be sure since macedon is destroyed):2thumbsup:

Both are linked to the old Marian Reforms, so yea they both come at the same time *along with the saka having access to indo-greek units, and the romans getting 2 new ships*