To steal a term from another backroom patron welcome to theQuote:
Originally Posted by Kuni
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To steal a term from another backroom patron welcome to theQuote:
Originally Posted by Kuni
:2thumbsup:Quote:
cesspool
Environmental activists, The Phelps family and Jihadists alike have the best intentions (okay, maybe not the Phelpses). I've said in other thread recently that motivation is a bad criterium to judge an action on.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaxfetish
Paging Dr. Timothy Leary...
Dude, this is the wrong crowd to bring this up to. Morality is not a big issue to most here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
I just hate that my taxes are going to this public "education". Oh well, thank God for private schools, my kids will never see the inside of these government hell holes. :no:
If you don't talk about it, it does not exist. Didn't you know that? Even thinking abouit sex makes you a pervert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaknafien
Of course, this repression can lead you to be a pretty screwed up individual with a shallow concept of sex, but hey, at least you're PRETENDING that you're not thinking about it.
You know, if some parents would go ahead and do some research and teach their children about sex and drugs themselves, these half-baked presentaions would not be necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
But yeah, ignoring the core problem is fine too.
If your kid gets influenced enough by such a little speech to completely give up his morals, you've done a bad job no matter where you put him. What do you think will happen when he discovers the real world ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
You dont think some do? If your a good parent you sure as hell do. The problem these days is everything is all about me and instant gratification. Let the state raise my kids. I cant be bothered. Unless your some crack pot conservative.Quote:
You know, if some parents would go ahead and do some research and teach their children about sex and drugs themselves, these half-baked presentaions would not be necessary.
Errr...now that you admit most parents can't be bothered, how do you defend your "the parents knows best" statement ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Because its cause and affect. Why dont parents teach these things nowdays? because they think like you its the responsibility of the state. Most conservative parents will bother to teach these things. So you think the state knows best then. So lets return to the days of the Spartans. At 7 hand your children over to the state. The only reason to have children is for the good of the state. If the child is not perfect when born kill it.Quote:
Errr...now that you admit most parents can't be bothered, how do you defend your "the parents knows best" statement ?
So you're claiming that before schools had sex education, parents used to teach this stuff to their children themselves? No offence, but that's, well, wrong.
So now your telling me what my parents didnt teach me? How is it before the pill and sex education teen pregnancy was at far lower levels than it is today? If you got laid in school when I was a kid it was rare. Oral sex was about the best that could be hoped for. Girls had morals and played hard to get :laugh4: Most girls today would have been called sluts back then if the dressed and acted the way they do now.Quote:
So you're claiming that before schools had sex education, parents used to teach this stuff to their children themselves? No offence, but that's, well, wrong.
PS
Since most of you seem to think its fine and natural for kids to have sex at 14 I would imagine you would also support lowering the age of consent to that age and marriage as well.
Yeah... the TP rate is actually lower now than it has been for about fourty years. So there's your slutty generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Well I know that certainly makes all you guys happy :laugh4:Quote:
yeah...
I remember I was 19 when the pill became popular. Just in time.:laugh4: Man did things change after that. Nothing is all good or bad. Its my opinion that we were better off before it. But thats just my opinion. Most of you couldnt venture a guess because you have nothing to compare it to. Its always been this way for you.
Read edit PLZ. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Well being Im 59 you just proved my point thank you very much :laugh4: What happened 40 years ago?Quote:
Yeah... the TP rate is actually lower now than it has been for about fourty years. So there's your slutty generation.
PS I doubt anyone here has done more drugs or had more sex than me :whip: :laugh4:
It was STILL HIGHER IN THE FIFTIES.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/98news/teenrel.htm
To be fair, they were married then.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/05/1/gr050107.html
So...... the entire argument appears to be bs.
Nice dodge but admit that you just proved my point please. :laugh4:
I like to get in a word first. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
edit plox.
All I'm trying to point out is that your claim that THE PILL MADE PEOPLE EVIL is false.
Gender rolls began to blur when women started entering the work place and achieving equal rights. Along with this blurring of gender rolls went the dissolution of the old system of gender morality, as shown by this statement:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
As you are stating, womens' morality changed, not mens'. We have always been the dirty dogs looking for action, that's no different today than 40 years ago. Yet because women have now started to become equal to men in almost all aspect of society, including sex, that is deemed a degradation of morality. One of the realities of gender equality is that your special princess becomes just one of the boys. (Relatively speaking)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
You better check what your posting and linking.Quote:
It was STILL HIGHER IN THE FIFTIES.
I didnt say it did. I love sluts :laugh4:Quote:
All I'm trying to point out is that your claim that THE PILL MADE PEOPLE EVIL is false.
Your problem is that you're just not enlightened enough, Gawain, the times change, orgies on the marketplace are the next big step I guess.
Some activist group will start it, the news will broadcast it and soon you will see it everywhere, it will be part of normal life, think of standing in line at the bus stop or in the supermarket...I mean, it doesn't hurt anyone and it's fun, no?:help:
Tell me about it. And all this time here I was thinking it was me and my generation that started this whole mess.:laugh4: We were such closed minded bigots back in the 60s.Quote:
Your problem is that you're just not enlightened enough,
OK.... what do you see in those graphs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
It's better to be on the good side of your kids. You can achieve this by supporting their natural instincts (within obvious limits). I'd prefer my kids did not hide that they were having sex and smoking joints all night. This way at least I'm aware what's going on. If you pose a challenge to the kids development they will hide things from you. It's better to be part of your childrens lives, than to be outside.
Is this a game ?Quote:
OK.... what do you see in those graphs?
OK Ill play. What do you see? Nothing to refute my claims thats for sure. Its not even on topic. Well slightly Ill give you that.
Pill came out in 1960.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
You said:
Graphs show that TPR peak was in 1957. YOU ARE WRONG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
What's the problem?
Its says TBR are down
What else happened in the 60s?
It says that birth rates for women aged 15-19 became more prevalent in the 50'ties and peaked in 57, after wich it went down. After a short upward movement in the second half of the 80'ties, it went down again.
Catagories 18-19 and 15-17 don't appear on the graph before 1960 but otherwise follow the same pattern.
EDIT: mixed up birth and pregnancy rates