I think I see what you mean GH. If I do understand correctly, then I agree. Also, won't the guards know who to lynch if the future lynchee attacks the king?
Andres, reasoning? Beside random voting.
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I think I see what you mean GH. If I do understand correctly, then I agree. Also, won't the guards know who to lynch if the future lynchee attacks the king?
Andres, reasoning? Beside random voting.
Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus:
It was just my way to say "welcome back Louis"... Should have read the whole opening post instead of stopping at sentence "normal rules apply".
Andres, reasoning? Beside random voting.
Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus:
Yes, but if the assassin is smart they'll know that the guards will not try to bring out the King by over-protecting him - maybe they'd even throw a vote (just one!) his way in order to throw the assassin off.
I think I see what you mean GH. If I do understand correctly, then I agree. Also, won't the guards know who to lynch if the future lynchee attacks the king?
Andres, reasoning? Beside random voting.
Of course, would any guard risk doing that knowing full well that the wrath of the other three might come down on him in full force? Ugh, this game is driving me nuts already... :wall:
You are allowed to unvote. After a majority has been reached, unvotes are not allowed, that's what that bit was supposed to mean.
Originally Posted by Sasaki:
:sweatdrop:
You are allowed to unvote.
Anyway, what strategy do you propose Luigi?
Ah, much better then.
Vote: Omanes
No votes on you yet and you haven't said anything since the game began.
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief:
maybe they'd even throw a vote (just one!) his way in order to throw the assassin off.
We have 6 players right now, 4 guards who know who is the King and the King himself who, obviously, won't vote for himself. In fact, we can even risk 2 votes on the King.
I'm lurking because there is very little to discuss - I don't have a preference for rounds which involve random voting, unless the target is acting dangerously. A 1/6 chance of getting an assassin is not enough to make me want to lynch somebody.
Vote: Andres
There are far too few players to really lurk successfully in this game. If we all keep discussion going to a max it would be much easier to weed out the assassin.
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites:
I'm lurking because there is very little to discuss - I don't have a preference for rounds which involve random voting, unless the target is acting dangerously. A 1/6 chance of getting an assassin is not enough to make me want to lynch somebody.
It's 4 to lynch and there's no limit on the duration of the day.
The more we talk, the more people will have to reveal. 5 people know who is King, only one does not.
We should be able to detect our assassin in 1 round if we get enough discussion.
Eventually, voting patern, one misplaced vote, will probably reveal the assassin.
Cast a vote Omanes. If we want to win this game, everybody needs to cast votes.
^^ Omanes, don't lurk. That's marking you as an assassin.
Andres, unvote.
If we risk two votes, won't that begin a bandwagon?
Omanes' post before his edit:
Originally Posted by Omanes:
After his edit:
I'm lurking because there is very little to discuss - I don't have a preference for rounds which involve random voting, unless the target is acting dangerously. A 1/6 chance of getting an assassin is not enough to make me want to lynch somebody.
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites:
You certainly regret that I quoted your post while you were editing it, huh...?
Andres, voting for somebody randomly as a "welcome back" is just unreasonable. There is only a 1 in 6 chance of getting the assassin.
Vote: Andres
Unvote; Vote : Omanes
Okay, Omanes voted (check his former "I'm lurking" post). I don't really agree with his reasoning, but I don't think he's fully grasped the mechanics of this game yet. However, he is beginning to speak and that is good.
Unvote: Omanes
Vote: Dutch_guy
Also a "prodding" vote. I want to hear your thoughts.
Running vote counts would be appreciated.
Omanes: 1 ( Andres)
Andres: 1 (omanes)
Dutch_guy: 1(GH)
4 to lynch
Hmmm... I don't like Omanes' edit, but he talked and votes are quickly changed if needed.
I'll vote the other lurker.
Unvote; Vote : Louis VI the Fat
Welcome back. Now, talk :whip:
Tally:
Louis VI: 1 ( Andres)
Andres: 1 (omanes)
Dutch_guy: 1(GH)
I see odd behavior Andres, just because I edited my post to seem less suspitious, since I am a guard, doesn't make me mafia. As you can see, I've edited it back so you guys know I am not embarrassed or nervous about it.
Anyhow, Andres, I've never seen you behave in this way before - why are you acting differently?
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites:
Am I ? :inquisitive:
Anyhow, Andres, I've never seen you behave in this way before - why are you acting differently?
You've never overviewed a post like that before.
Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus:
Why did you want me to unvote?
Andres, unvote.
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites:
I noticed it, because I quoted your original post and saw you edited your post at the same time I posted my quote of your original post.
You've never overviewed a post like that before.
You must admit there was a huge difference between your original post and the edited one.
Andres, really, haven't you yet realized that people are posting while you are posting. Perhaps Horus was in this situation? All I see from you is a framing attempt here, and a not especially well devised one at that.
Originally Posted by Andres:
True, but I see no way it arouses suspicion around me, especially since I changed it back - if I was afraid of it, or had anything to hide, I would have retained the edit.
You must admit there was a huge difference between your original post and the edited one.
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites:
Apparantly, people are even editing while I am posting :bounce:
Andres, really, haven't you yet realised that people are posting while you are posting. Perhaps Horus was in this situation? All I see from you is a framing attempt here, and a not especially well devised one at that/
Besides, what's wrong with making another player to talk. How else are we supposed to win this game?
We need a) to discuss b) to vote and to switch votes. Discussion and voting patterns are the only clues we are going to get in this game.
Do you agree? If not, why not?
Originally Posted by :
I disagree. An edit like that (and a subsequent one!) causes confusion and, as I'm sure you've gathered, suspicion. Any edited post does. Better if you just left it the way it was and made a new post so people would logically see your thought procession.
True, but I see no way it frames me, especially since I changed it back - if I was afraid of it, or had anything to hide, I would have retained the edit.
I agree with the discussion part, but I still think it may be dangerous as it can benefit both sides. I find that changing of votes is unreasonable unless there is a decent reason behind it. It runs the risk of causing bandwaggoning while you are inactive and cannot remove the vote. I'm not too sure if that will happen in this game though, since the players aren't the easily influenced type.
Hm, five know who the king is, one doesn't. The king doesn't want to reveal himself, neither does the assassin. Would it be wise for guards to pretend to be king, to put the assassin on the wrong foot?
Now if I were the assassin, what would be my strategy? I'd pretend to be a guard wanting to find out who the assassin is. This is easily overdone, a too pro-active guard might just be our assassin.
He'll be keeping my eye open for any kingly behaviour as well. This means he wants people to talk, demanding they partake in the discussion.
I say Andres is acting suspiciously agressive...
Vote : Andres
Louis VI: 1 ( Andres)
Andres: 2 (omanes, Louis)
Dutch_guy: 1(GH)
Andres, when I asked you to unvote, that was after your first vote, for Louis, which was an obvious random vote. I thought you forgot to unvote Louis, and I thought you had wanted too. Therefore, I thought it useful to remind you.
Omanes, if you had anything to hide, but didn't want people to know it, you'd act like you had nothing to hide, no? Doing things like re-editing posts, etc.
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites:
Contradictio in terminis ?
changing of votes is unreasonable unless there is a decent reason behind it.
:inquisitive:
No, I'd think more of obvious-pointing-out-ness.
I'm using usual reverse logic procedure. If I was mafia, I would be more secretive and less suspitious than if I was. Ridiculous, but I'm always like this in most games - it's my way of playing.
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat:
Too pro-active?
Now if I were the assassin, what would be my strategy? I'd pretend to be a guard wanting to find out who the assassin is. This is easily overdone, a too pro-active guard might just be our assassin.
He'll be keeping my eye open for any kingly behaviour as well. This means he wants people to talk, demanding they partake in the discussion.
I say Andres is acting suspiciously agressive...
Vote : Andres
Louis VI: 1 ( Andres)
Andres: 2 (omanes, Louis)
Dutch_guy: 1(GH)
At least I get people to talk.
I always hate quoting myself...:
Originally Posted by Myself:
Consider the question adressed to you as well, Luigi.
We need a) to discuss b) to vote and to switch votes. Discussion and voting patterns are the only clues we are going to get in this game.
Do you agree? If not, why not?
Répondez-moi, Frenchie :whip: