Kingdoms PCZONE Review - Thumbs Up!

eh... but I will... and many others :P its just weird that the gameindustry is the only industry that sells broken products and the customers actually take it... its like buying a car with broken wheels and then say when the customer complains.. hey... you can make your own wheels you know... and no sorry i didnt realize the wheels were broken when i was testdriving the car... and no you wont get your mone back since its nothing that cant be fixed... alright well throw you a bone, we tell you how you can fix your wheels, now piss off because were bringing out a new car and we wont be fixing old cars... be nice and buy the new model...

people would be sueing all over the place... but because its a game... its no big deal

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

simple, games are made before christmass. :santa:

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LOL, couldn't have said it better myself.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

eh... but I will... and many others :P its just weird that the gameindustry is the only industry that sells broken products and the customers actually take it... its like buying a car with broken wheels and then say when the customer complains.. hey... you can make your own wheels you know... and no sorry i didnt realize the wheels were broken when i was testdriving the car... and no you wont get your mone back since its nothing that cant be fixed... alright well throw you a bone, we tell you how you can fix your wheels, now piss off because were bringing out a new car and we wont be fixing old cars... be nice and buy the new model...

people would be sueing all over the place... but because its a game... its no big deal

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A game costs 30 pounds at most, a car that isn't going to fall apart costs somewhat more than that.

I get what your trying to get at, but the fact games are relatively cheap in comparison and the fact that they are less essential by far than other things means they can get away with it.

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Originally Posted by ataribaby

Cripes. I didn't expect much of a response on this one... I just got my copy of PCZONE magazine early in the post (I've been a subscriber for several years), and just thought I'd share the optimism.

I suppose it's a bit much to expect people to trust in the reliability and reputation of a magazine that they don't know. That's fair enough - healthy scepticism. It's also understandable that people are a pretty cynical towards reviews and reviewers in general; there are a lot of duff ones out there.

Ah well... the review made me more excited about the expansion, but with hindsight it was a pretty pointless topic to post... Soz. :beam: :whip:

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There's nothing wrong with enthusiasm, big guy. You like what you like. Personally, I'm looking forward to Kingdoms too, bugs and all.

I enjoy the campaign side of M2TW, but for me, the combat isn't as fun as RTW. I went back to RTW/BI these last few days just to play some combat sequences instead of autoresolving, like I'm doing in M2TW.

I'm sure I'll eventually get back into the combat in M2TW. I like the units and the variety. It's just that the fluidness of the combat is not as good, to me, as in RTW.

I'm hoping that there might be some improvement in Kingdoms. Plus, I'd love to try my hand at slaughtering Aztecs (with apologies to Russell Means.) :beam:

I'd also like to play the Crusades campaign. Even the Britannica (sp., it's getting late and I'm sleepy) has some appeal to me. Playing the Welsh or the Scots would be fun. So, I probably won't wait too long after release to buy a copy.

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Originally Posted by NagatsukaShumi

A game costs 30 pounds at most, a car that isn't going to fall apart costs somewhat more than that.

I get what your trying to get at, but the fact games are relatively cheap in comparison and the fact that they are less essential by far than other things means they can get away with it.

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a teenager isnt exactly making a few k a month... and not everyone is blessed with rich parents... and its not about the money but avbout the principle.

I don't feel the bugs are gamebreaking, really. Rome's problems were far, far deeper, at a fundamental level. Cavalry being superior to spear infantry, for one.

Some of my favourite games are bug ridden messes. Fallout anyone? Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.

Medieval Total War 2 is bugfree in comparisson.

The bugs are now of a minor sort. I will buy this on release.

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Originally Posted by joe4iz

Well my friend, I have bought too many stinky games in the past not to relie of the reviews. They have some other nice articles also. Most of the reviews are pretty much dead on.
My subscription pays for itself if it keeps me from buying one :elephant: game. I started subscribing years ago when a particular franchise put out a :elephant: sequel.


Besides, I can't lug my PC into the "Throne Room" if you now what I mean.:laugh4:

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Someone just discovered the dancing pink elephant smiley! I remember my first time...
Anyway, I'm not that cynical. I expect a few bugs, but I think Kingdoms will be pretty good. I read in some article it is very, very fun and some of the campaigns, America especially, provide one with challenges.

The :elephant: smiley is my version of Tosa's :daisy: for creative post editing ~;)

And hey, I think we'll get our money's worth with Kingdom :thumbsup:

Well I am looking forward to both playing Kingdoms and to seeing my favourite mods (full size campaign map and all) ported over to Kingdoms..

In general I found review in PCGamer UK reliable and informative; more recently, too many things seem to be getting too high a score. In particular, Silent Hunter IV springs to mind. I didn't buy it myself, a flatmate did, and rarely have I seen such a bug-ridden game that should never have been released in the state it was. That a review doesn't make clear mention of the fact while it is obvious to all who have played ever so briefly is disgusting.

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Originally Posted by DisruptorX

I don't feel the bugs are gamebreaking, really. Rome's problems were far, far deeper, at a fundamental level. Cavalry being superior to spear infantry, for one.

Some of my favourite games are bug ridden messes. Fallout anyone? Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.

Medieval Total War 2 is bugfree in comparisson.

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hmm that was only because of the jumpthingie and the ridicilous huge size of cavalry compared to infantry... it was fixed rather quick... and atleast in RTW al the units worked... in MTW pikes dont properly and easily work, nor does 2handed weapons (theyre not entirely fixed) and the game has been dumbed down so much its annoying... cmon what are smilies doing in a WAR GAME... FCS...