How do [B]you[/B] utilise Thureophoroi and Lonchophoroi?

If your going to I'll be a hypocrite and follow suite:


Phalangites

Doesn't seem to be your lucky day, Bonny.:laugh4:


God, I can't wait for the day that I spot Tellos making a spelling mistake...

@ Folgore and Thaatu

how did you make those deployment sketches ?

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Originally Posted by Thaatu

With Seleucids the Hypaspistai on the left is replaced by Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou. That's a mouthful.

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Is that a new unit, or simply a rename of the thorakitai argyraspiadai?

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Originally Posted by Pharnakes

God, I can't wait for the day that I spot Tellos making a spelling mistake...

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Enjoy your corpses... ? :idea2: :laugh4:

Now as for your question the Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou [Thorakitai among the Royal Squadron] is indeed a rename of a previously already existing (and quite frankly cumbersome) unit. By the time you can afford them you may very well have a Large Gymnasion in place, and a nice Chalkeon. Now those two buildings + the Homeland Governement + the raw stats will add up to a whopping 36 defence points. Only Catraphracts (elite, late ones at that) can surpass that. The attack values aren't exactly low either.

And I'll point it out yet again: Argyraspides! -Ai is about as whole as your back will feel after the T.A.B. have had a go at you for it! :whip:

Enjoy my corpses? Am I being stupid here? I don't get that at all.


And I am sure it is (or was) spelt ai in the edu, at least, and that is theonly place where I haveto be abe to spell the units, so the edu entreys tend to be the ones that I learn to spell. (even though I am certain I have found mistakes in the edu, not that it really matters)

Well the last time we had a discussion on the T.A.B. I managed to misspell the plural of corps as in "elite corps"....

You gotta start posting yourself instead of having that slave of yours making your posts up. :wink:

Excuse me, my sig is there for a reason, you know.:laugh4:

My use. Thureophoroi, in as large numbers I can without it feeling ridicoulus, mostly on the flanks of my phalanx. Lonchophoroi I hardly use, yet, mainly the because of the price, though in my QartHadast game the Lonchophoroi type cavalry they have is the main cavalry unit for me (for one thing is, atleast still in 1.0, relatively cheap unlike the Lonchophoroi who aren't quite as cost-effective). However my use of Lonchophoroi is steadily increasing (I have trained one unit with Makedonia).

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Originally Posted by Poulp'

@ Folgore and Thaatu

how did you make those deployment sketches ?

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I used Paint. Folgore probably used some more high tech thing.

I read something about Prodromoi being more resistant to missiles. This is wrong. Lonchophoroi have a shield wich, if you don't make them run around, will make them quite effective against arrows. If they're under fire, make them walk and run only for the charge. I like them a lot. I use thureophoroi as flanking troops where they excell... I use Thorakitai either as flank troops or, in armies where I'm going for mobility, I use them as the main infantry line.


Cheers...

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Originally Posted by mAIOR

I read something about Prodromoi being more resistant to missiles. This is wrong. Lonchophoroi have a shield wich, if you don't make them run around, will make them quite effective against arrows. If they're under fire, make them walk and run only for the charge. I like them a lot. I use thureophoroi as flanking troops where they excell... I use Thorakitai either as flank troops or, in armies where I'm going for mobility, I use them as the main infantry line.


Cheers...

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Prodromoi have 11 armor and no shield. Lonchophoroi have 8 armor and 3 shield. This means prodromoi are more resistant to missile fire, on average.

as Baktria I use thereuphoroi mainly as shock troops and mobile anticavalry, maybe are not the best in this role but in the east there's plenty of archers, cavalry and light infantry but only few heavy units; they are usually the infantry with most kills done. I have much less thorakitai, I deploy them at the flanks of the phalanx in a mainly defensive role. Never used the lonchophoroi.

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Originally Posted by Sakkura

Prodromoi have 11 armor and no shield. Lonchophoroi have 8 armor and 3 shield. This means prodromoi are more resistant to missile fire, on average.

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Weaker against slingers, though.

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Originally Posted by Pharnakes

Weaker against slingers, though.

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Only from certain directions. Against slingers it's a mixed picture, against archers the prodromoi are better. And to be fair, he was talking about archers specifically.

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If your going to I'll be a hypocrite and follow suite:

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Three seater & a recliner? Or maybe split-level duplex? :balloon2:

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Originally Posted by Sakkura

Prodromoi have 11 armor and no shield. Lonchophoroi have 8 armor and 3 shield. This means prodromoi are more resistant to missile fire, on average.

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Shield bvalue doubles against arrows I believe. Also, against AP missiles, it isn't reduced.



Cheers...

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Originally Posted by Poulp'

@ Folgore and Thaatu

how did you make those deployment sketches ?

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Took me about 3 minutes to make in photoshop.

Lonchophoroi have armor/shield stats that are much too low for how they are depicted. they pretty have have full hoplite armor and an aspis. I have bumped them up in my campaigns...

Yeah, I was supried when however it was siad they ahve 8 armour. 3 shield is reasonable, though, as the sheild dosen't protect the horse at all, only the man.

Shield values in EB have always only applied to the man

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Originally Posted by mAIOR

Shield bvalue doubles against arrows I believe. Also, against AP missiles, it isn't reduced.

Cheers...

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The shield still does not protect the ass.