Arrogance

Arrogance = ignorance, EOD. ~D

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Originally Posted by doc_bean

Errr..well cynism and sarcasm are actually arrogant forms of humor, since they're about making fun of other people and putting you above them.

Sarcasm seems so awesome when you're a teenager, but after a while you realize how dumb and overused it tends to be. Cynism is also hardly anything to be proud of when you're young (or old for that matter). It implies a rather closed outlook on live.

Maybe you should look at yourself for the answer as to why you are perceived as arrogant. But like I said, the love of sarcasm is nothing strange for a teenager. And most of you are arrogant anyway.

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:inquisitive: I'm not arrogant... I know I'm not... and who are you btw to say I am... some doc?... :sweatdrop: ...:2thumbsup:

arrogance is made up by society to have something to whine about... end of discussion...

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Seriously... it is...

to be honest, I say, just be who you are, that doesn't mean you can't look at yourself and change parts of yourself you don't like, or want to change because people you hold dear are annoyed by. It does mean however, that you shouldn't change yourself just for wanting to be liked, by what you said earlier in this thread I doubt you will.

Also you can be confident without being arrogant, though most definitly there will always be people who will mistake it with arrogance, which usually not a problem at all. Although alot of those people, are acting arrogant as well, by assuming without really knowing you, that you are arrogant and so decide to ignore you or act the same way, making it just worse...

Arrogance, tricky one. A person (goes without saying, teenager) in my 6th form could be classed as arrogant. generally it is some sort of a swagger and a tendency to a) always be right b) voice oppinions regardless of context/company and c) tilt head back, 45 degree angle and omitt loud choruses of "Ye Ye Ye" whilst vigourously nodding.

I wage war on you Doc_Bean, first you beat me at snake then you hurl a barrage of abuse at teens. I'm sure we outnumber you 'oldies'!! :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

What is arrogance? The troubled teenager inside me suddenly found himself told many times that he is arrogant, and that recently, I was told that I had no remorse for my actions.

The common thing that I personally noticed was that arrogance was sent to me only by acquaintances, and just slightly by close friends.

I despise people who are fake, think they are cool when in fact they are actually destroying themselves... The typical cool guy tells me that i'm very arrogant with him.

Hmmm, thoughts?

I feel :alien:

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Remember, if the ladies say you're arrogant, it means they like you, so keep doing whatever you're doing. If the guys say you're arrogant, it means they're jealous over your success with the ladies, so keep doing whatever you're doing, unless the guy goes to gym every day and lifts 200 kg in bench press. :yes:

My arrogance comes from my nature of poking at people and especially when people are really dumb. My poking is in the form of sarcasm, which I find it as a perfect way of saying you're stupid without them noticing it. There are some people who you really can't poke at, because they're smart enough to get it, but most of them don't. People say that it's not a wall, it's my mindset that thinks like that, but I do not have the desire to change, because if you are like with the cool guys and stuff, there's no more fun. Cool nowadays means smoking, drinking, massacre the clubs (like one of the guys said in his speech)... I'm not that group.

Sarcasm is an intelligent way of humour, in my opinion. Few people can use sarcasm really well, and around here, we do have some great examples, some using derived forms of sarcasm.

wow... you just... like... made... the typical arrogant remark... really... what makes you think you are smarter than them, even when people sometimes act dumb, or when they make a naive remark, which is easily translated to dumb, or an ignorant remark (read ignorant as in not knowing, and not as in retarded/extremely dumb) doesn't mean they are dumb. And also even if you are smarter than them its not reason to be mean or pretend to better... simply... because you are not...

just being smarter makes no better human being, we might not be equal but we are equally.

You don't have to be intelligent to be arrogant though

If you were inteligent, you would not be arrogant.

The lines between confidence/arrogance/cockiness are blurry at best and often change based on the situation. Don't you go to some rich person boarding school, Edyz? You probably are a bit arrogant but than again so are most of the people who are calling you arrogant. Plus, it comes with being a teenager. You're usually either arrogant or have lousy self-esteem. Very few manage to take the middle path between those two.

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Originally Posted by mrdun

You don't have to be intelligent to be arrogant though

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True. :yes: Ignorance fuels arrogance. :wizard:
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Originally Posted by Caius

If you were inteligent, you would not be arrogant.

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False. :rtwno: Intelligence combined with pride also fuels arrogance. :girlslap:
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Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

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False. :rtwno: Intelligence combined with pride also fuels arrogance. :girlslap:
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The fuel price is too high, so I doubt that will happen.

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Originally Posted by Caius

The fuel price is too high, so I doubt that will happen.

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Global warming notwithstanding. :yes:
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Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

My arrogance comes from my nature of poking at people and especially when people are really dumb. My poking is in the form of sarcasm, which I find it as a perfect way of saying you're stupid without them noticing it. There are some people who you really can't poke at, because they're smart enough to get it, but most of them don't.

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Honestly, I wouldn't poke fun at anyone in that way who wouldn't get it, it's not a good look ~:)

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People say that it's not a wall, it's my mindset that thinks like that, but I do not have the desire to change, because if you are like with the cool guys and stuff, there's no more fun. Cool nowadays means smoking, drinking, massacre the clubs (like one of the guys said in his speech)... I'm not that group.

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Which is fine, of course. But just because you think they're a bunch of irritating stuck up self centered immature short sighted idiots, doesn't mean it will do you a lot of good to tell them that :book:

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Sarcasm is an intelligent way of humour, in my opinion. Few people can use sarcasm really well, and around here, we do have some great examples, some using derived forms of sarcasm.

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It can be intelligent, sometimes. But the most important thing you need to learn when using sarcasm (and forgive the patronizing tone of this post, by the way :laugh4:) is exactly how far you can push it with any given person. There's always a line, and you never want to cross it, unless you're looking for a reaction.

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Originally Posted by Caius

The fuel price is too high, so I doubt that will happen.

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You've just seen it happen. :skull:
Nihilist turned arrogant.

Identity crysis. Damn, I hate these things. Please read my user title and react accordingly. :beam:

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I'm not in favor of picking on stupid people usually because I don't think anyone chose to be stupid. That's different from people choosing to do something stupid, but then everybody does that once in a while and is happy when others don't pick on her/him for that so where we end up is don't do to others what you don't want others to do to you.

Yes, there are people more stupid than others but then there are people who try to treat them in a somewhat nice or neutral way and those who want to send them rotten burgers in a box via mail and that's where we arrive at a moral judgement and also the point where some don't want to be with the mean guys because you get the impression they like to poke fun behind anyone's back as long as the respective person won't notice it was them or what they did.

well... I know a guy who got the choice at birth, brains or a hamburger... He chose the latter... It shows... believe me...

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Originally Posted by sapi

It can be intelligent, sometimes. But the most important thing you need to learn when using sarcasm (and forgive the patronizing tone of this post, by the way :laugh4:) is exactly how far you can push it with any given person. There's always a line, and you never want to cross it, unless you're looking for a reaction.

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Being able to be sarcastic about one self is also an easy way to appear less arrogant (not if the sarcasm is used to illustrate ones superiority :laugh4: ).

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Originally Posted by Viking

Being able to be sarcastic about one self is also an easy way to appear less arrogant (not if the sarcasm is used to illustrate ones superiority :laugh4: ).

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I think you misunderstand the point here. The very purpose is to illustrate ones superiority, without appearing arrogant :2thumbsup:

My definition: People who brag in public about how good they are and how pathetic others are, for whatever nonsense reason.

There's loads of them here at uni... I either ignore them, or tell them they're childish jerks.

As far as I know, you're not like that, in fact, you have nothing to be ashamed about in your charactere. Stay yourself, and especially, don't feel bad about yourself because people criticize you. There will always be such people.

I guess I should turn back into myself. I realised that by being so nice to people you get pushed aside, and people tend to think that oh you're nice, but that's it. I tried being very nice to people but unfortunately we kind of live in a world where the strongest survives.

I'll just simply ignore them. Best to do like that, and concentrate on the things that I really like. Screw the rest.

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Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

I guess I should turn back into myself. I realised that by being so nice to people you get pushed aside, and people tend to think that oh you're nice, but that's it. I tried being very nice to people but unfortunately we kind of live in a world where the strongest survives.

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Blame Darwin. It helps me sleep at night.

Don't kill the messenger :tongue:

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Originally Posted by Rodion Romanovich

I think you misunderstand the point here. The very purpose is to illustrate ones superiority, without appearing arrogant :2thumbsup:

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Superiority has many faces... :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

I guess I should turn back into myself. I realised that by being so nice to people you get pushed aside, and people tend to think that oh you're nice, but that's it. I tried being very nice to people but unfortunately we kind of live in a world where the strongest survives.

I'll just simply ignore them. Best to do like that, and concentrate on the things that I really like. Screw the rest.

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Just be yourself. Don't sell someone who isn't you. I am Caius, and I act like the real Caius do. You don't have to be false to show yourself, because one day or other, people will discover who is edyzmedieval.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Im not arrogant. Im just right

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Because you the King of Texas. But so am I, because I am the King of Swissland and the Wolly BHC Emperor! :yes: :laugh4:


But yea Arrogance is a bad trait to have. It may make your friends with cool kids, if you act tough and stand up to adults, but won't do you any good in reality.

SFTS for President! :2thumbsup: :charge:

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Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

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False. :rtwno: Intelligence combined with pride also fuels arrogance. :girlslap:
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No, actually all you need is to have the perception of having intelligence, or any other outstanding skill or characteristic.

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Originally Posted by Faust|

No, actually all you need is to have the perception of having intelligence, or any other outstanding skill or characteristic.

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That's true but not exclusive of my point.
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Isn't it arrogant to tell someone else they are arrogant?

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Well anyways. Don't worry about it. I'm arrogant myself. Except that when I think that I am better at something then someone else.. I usually am... So people don't complain about it.