Someone's taking my comments a bit too seriously.
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Someone's taking my comments a bit too seriously.
Of course they do. And what is it I can do about it except observe and comment? I've mentioned several times that Castro is a shmuck, and I don't see anyone crying over his loss of power. But from a political point of view, he does provide a fascinating example of the inherent weirdness of world politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
If you want a thousand word dissertation on the criminality of the Cuban regime, I'm sure I can pop one out for you, but for right now I'm just looking at the dark humour of the story of Castro's survival.
Besides, the Cubans suffer just as Canadians do in Canada and Americans do in the US. Our governmental systems may wind the democratic clock to a higher degree of accuracy than the Cuban system does, but are any of us free from suffering? Is there not desperate poverty and crime and hopelessness and sickness and inequity and injustice in both our countries as well? And isn't it a worse crime that we, as stinking rich countries, should allow that to exist?
Personally, I think the Cubans must look at the both of us and wonder how we messed it up so bad.
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This thread is depressing. Seriously, can we hold off on the grandiose speculations for a bit?
Errrr....lots and lots Vladimir , havn't you heard of health tourism , its that thing where Americans go to places like Mexico , India and Canada to see doctors , I suppose more would go to Cuba if there wasn't problems with travelling there , but still its a good place for American medical students to go to learn their trade isn't it .:idea2:Quote:
Are you serious? How many people flock to Cuba, Spain, and the UK for treatment?
So your point was ..what exactly ?:laugh4: :laugh4:
Which is why they're always fleeing here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
Exactly how many go to Canada, tribesy? Can you provide a source?Quote:
Errrr....lots and lots Vladimir , havn't you heard of health tourism , its that thing where Americans go to places like Mexico , India and Canada to see doctors , I suppose more would go to Cuba if there wasn't problems with travelling there , but still its a good place for American medical students to go to learn their trade isn't it .
I'm skeptical, see, since Canada has a national healthcare system, doesn't really allow private doctors outside of that system, and I don't see Canada as allowing visitors to use their national healthcare system. It seems like it wouldn't legally be possible.
Actually, I live near Canada,and the stories I read about are people coming to the US because they're sick of waiting for treatment in the US.
CR
Don't get me wrong, I'm not silly enough to think they have it better than us, I'm just saying we should be careful about throwing stones at other people's pooor dumb tyrannical governments while our own rich dumb democratic governments lay waste to our advantages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Anyway, on the Crazed Maniacal Dictator scale, Castro probably ranks well below a lot of guys both our countries hopped into bed with.
You're a lucky guy! :sunny:Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Fair enough, I suppose.
But I'm really lucky, because I live close to BC (ski resorts huzzah!) but not quite in Canada. The best of both worlds.
CR
Anybody in the NCR interested?
http://www.heritage.org/press/events/ev022608b.cfm
I'm really lucky, too, because I live close to Vermont (whisky & Vermonters huzzah!) but not quite in the US. The best of both worlds indeedely-doodely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
I'm a little sorry to see him go. I mean, as a moderate-right wing monarchist, I'm about as far away from his idealogy as I can get. However, the man lasted fifty years with the most powerful nation on earth trying to kill him, recieving no trade from the closest major power, and managed to instate one of the world's best healthcare systems.
The man had style. My respects. :2thumbsup:
Yep, not everyone can survive 600 odd assasination attempts by the CIA...
They should send him a congratulatory cigar commemorating his 49 years in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwordsMaster
When you fall from power I shall construct a fitting monument:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
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That's part true part false. Though it's true that this era in Cuba was mostly defined by the policies of a single party which head was our proverbial man, it's also true that the beacon has been passed to a new generation of ruthless rulers, I've always known Castro's brother as the "worst of two evils".Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
I think the era has just transformed into another version of itself with its most important characteristcs strengthned.
snagging that for my sigQuote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
Well see its like this , Canada worked out that with the large market in health tourism it would be silly not to grab a slice of the pie.:idea2: ....(though they left it too late in the year to get the full accreditation) (but the next round is in March)Quote:
I'm skeptical, see, since Canada has a national healthcare system, doesn't really allow private doctors outside of that system, and I don't see Canada as allowing visitors to use their national healthcare system. It seems like it wouldn't legally be possible.
When you manage to write something that doesn't fall apart at the first glance perhaps you can attempt to start building something .Quote:
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hey how about ......nice story , now that wouldn't be the ex-military aicraft under the control of a wanted terrorist , operating out of a military base , who after numerous warnings for violation of airspace and acts of aggression (and lots of requests to both the US and UN for intervention) finally got unlucky .:inquisitive:Quote:
Anybody in the NCR interested?
Does this mean he'll continue to sit as a member of parliament?Quote:
Originally Posted by Castro's Letter
No, it was a UFO from Roswell New Mexico. Those Cubans and their clever doctors found a way to get past its shield and down the craft. The missionary story is a cover-up. :sneaky:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Wow, kinda sad when you think about it. Fifty years in power, and he leaves on his own terms, with his own cronies taking the helm. This didn't work out well for us.
We gotta think more carefully about how we try to get rid of dictators ...
As similar nations have descended further into chaos and third world services, Castro has made Cuba's education and healthcare systems the envy of the world.
Now, I do not believe in revolutionary socialism and I am a liberal so I clearly have my serious differences with what Castro has done, but some truths are clearly evident, even with the continual whining of right wingers everywhere.
Take your time, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
Yeah, and a worker get paid 8 dollars per month. Lovely, isnt it?Quote:
As similar nations have descended further into chaos and third world services, Castro has made Cuba's education and healthcare systems the envy of the world
But does your calculation take into account that 8 dollars in Cuba could buy a lot more than 8 dollars can buy in the US? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius
Yes, I knew that shlin. But anyway. 8 dollars!
All in all a horrible dictactor-commie. But ill be damn lucky if my life's achievements ever go near his.
You do realize that a large part of why Cuba is that poor is because of the American embargo, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius
Yes, we've all heard the rhetoric. Here's a solution: trade with any country other than America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
I do agree though the embargo is a load of a crap. If I want to buy Cuban Cigars, I should be able to. I don't need to government telling me not to.
Well, the third world I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
CR
America is the closest rich trading partner to Cuba. Cuba does trade with other countries than America, and is getting aid from places such as Brazil, but being that close to America, they need American trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice