Hey, at least the Sauromatae are doing better!
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Hey, at least the Sauromatae are doing better!
I'm about 20 years into a Roman campaign right now, been taking pics of the map every 5 years but I can't post them yet as I haven't been looking with the fow off. I want to do it the old fashioned way and preserve the mystery a bit, having to use spies and all that fun stuff to figure out what's going on and what the strengths are of mine enemies. Once I'm done or something changes, I'll have all those maps up and see it for the first time myself!
Anyone here playing a campaign in which the Saba actually try to conquer all the coastal rebel provinces before they head for Ptolie territory, like they used to in 1.0? So far they seem to take the first province to the east of their starting position and head west/north west from there.
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Baktria M/M 235BC no interference by me toward other factions, started rtw.exe, changed to bi only around 238
Should mention epeiros was cleaned up by maks after a good start, now only have 2 cities full of leftover elites/locals (and pontos has 2 stacks near byzantion)
Also, after switching to bi the maks have landed and seiged kydonia :yes:
Interloper trait in type 4 gov?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dayve
That gives up to 45% unrest.
Maks prevailing and KH becoming the Kingdom of Karia isn't something you usually see in 1.1Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice
Very cool AI development. First time (!) I see a really cool Makedonian hegemony even on the far side of the Aigaion. Also the Romans, Pahlava, Armenia, Getai, Lusos and the Sweboz deserve an honourable mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice
Edit: Voice, I saw you voted for Medium campaign difficulty in my inquiry and I see you played this on medium too. What armies are fielded by the AI? Full stacks or three-unit-stacks? Are the AI-factions weaklings against you or do they put up a fight?
Romani campaign, EB on Alex.exe, VH/H
262BC (previous update)
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252BC
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The arverni became too much of a threat, and I crossed the Alps to secure Viennos and Massalia to established easier controlled borders. Ended up taking Tolosa and Gergovia, effectively crippling the short-lived Arverni empire. I also steamrolled the rebels in Aventicos in the progress.
Otherwise quiet on the west front, Iberia has seen a couple attempts on their rebel cities, usually with the carthaginians besieging Arse and the Lusotannan besieging Numantia. No success so far...
One word needed to describe Hellas: Stalemate! Come to think of it, I believe Epirus, Makedonia and KH are all neutral with each other.
AS lost two eastern colonies, one rebelled and was taken by the Pahlava, and the other colony snatched by Saka Rauka. Baktra honoured their alliance with AS and took Sülek from the Saka Raukans, just after they conquered the rebel settlement in between.
The loss of eastern colonies have not hindered the AS, they kicked out the Ptolies from Anatolia and conquered the two rebel settlemens east of Haysdan, which by the way lost Kotais to the Sarmatians. The sarmations took Trapz-bla-bla, which I have never seen before. Meanwhile in the Anatolia, Pontos have woke up from their beauty sleep and is currently fighting AS for the title "Ruler of Modern Turkey".
Looks like the Sarmations wanted to show that they could outdo their predeccessors, the Scythians, in an invasion of the middle east. Can't wait to see whether they actually get around to conquering Mesopotamia or not.
Chairman
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Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
Well at the moment ive got 3 sele stacks at about 15 units each moving in to assault Baktra
Getia have 3 fullstacks standing around 1 settlement
Epeiros have both remaining cities full
Romani have a 3/4 stack moving to sicily and a couple half stacks in the north east.
Maks have half and 3/4 stacks all along northern border
Sweboz pushing every direction with good sized stacks
i think the only faction with less than half stacks are the sauro
Forgot to say they are not just stacks of cheap levies or similar, but arent full of factional elites either
uh? no interference by you? how did the saka die then? ~:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice
lol well besides saka theres been no interference :sweatdrop:
AI progression in 1.1 is much better than in 1.0.The Eastern War seems to be raging in everyone's campaign :duel: and those steppes finally count :charge: Great work EB team !!! :2thumbsup:
yes there you say something, because with me the AS is kicking the ptolemai back to their deserts and are winning against other factions to!!I did never see this before!So is it not strange?!
That sounds nice Voice. Mmmh. Isn't it too easy on Medium?
Not if you play with historical,balanced armies(no uber-all-elites)and limit the number of men you field(only a state army comprosed of a few stacks,and some regional ones).I also think it's better for roleplaying,and you don't have to fight endless stacks.So battles become more decisive,like they were in history.
I chose med for baktria because it was the first time i had chosen a far eastern faction :embarassed:
ive also got a h/m casse and vh/m romani in progress too
and that poll you mentioned before, i misread it for battle difficulty:oops:
Romani campaign, EB on Alex.exe, VH/H
262BC
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252BC (previous update)
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242BC
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The stinking gauls are history. Tired of the puke-green Arverni in 248BC, I took their two remaining cities, made a "Caivs Gallivs" out of Caivs Avrelivs Cotta. The aedui marched two full-stacked armies along our borders, Caivus Gallivus made a fort, got besieged, kicked the aeduis butts and took their two only cities. End of the Gauls. I also sent an army through Illyria and conquered Dalmininion and Segestica. I'm currenly waiting for the Polybian reforms to happen before I attack any other faction.
Makedonia and KH are constantly attacking each other, staging sieges after sieges. Makedonia eventually managed to take Korinthos back and after numerous attempts finally captured Pergamon. KH has also got two new additions, Trapz-bla-bla and Karia who both rebelled from their former masters.
AS is still incredibly strong, and are managing all of their fronts pretty well. In the east, they have retaken all of their settlements from Pahvala, which by the way is down to one besieged (by AS of course) settlement.
Saka Rauka have taken back one settlement from Baktria, and also conquered the rebel settlement separating them from the sarmatians. Battle surely awaits the steppe factions. The Sarmatians have conquered one of the Crimean cities.
On the Iberian peninsula, heavy fighting between the Lusotanni and carthaginians have taken place, with neither gaining any real upper hand. The Lusotanni captured one city from the carthaginians, which was immediatly taken back. The carthaginians have also taken Cyrene from the ptolies.
Romani Campaign Alex.exe VH/M 215BC
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Wow, very rarely do you see an AI faction go from almost one side of the map to the other. I think two provinces (one on each side) could make them link up both sides of the map.
Damn, that´s one big Yellow Death. And yeah, just two regions to go before they´ve united the entire map. Man, I do not envy you when you have to fight them.
Its got worse.
Dont ask me what the Lusitanians are doing they just drove straight through gaul splitting it in halve. Hopefully i can take iberia and isolate them there. i have no idea what four factions in that proximity with no where to expand is going to do.
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Wow, that's one of the most interesting AI expansions I ever saw!
I also see the AS managed to survive by escaping in India :P
Wow, Ptomely wants to out do alexander, just the hellas and the homeland and they have Alexanders empire and more.
I suggest you build defencive armies to defend greece from the Yellow Death.
Then take Iberia and Gaul (the four factions will attack each other).
Then you have enough money to start to fight, though if you were in a dangerous mood, you could gift some iberian provinces to the Yellow death. As it is alex they may attack anyway.
The epeirots own byzantium and the gateway to the asia minor, its all they own. i have three legions on border defence with the Getai.
Of all the epansion the only factional casualty has been pontus who stupidly fought the maks to the west of them and were caught unaware by the ptoleys to the east.
For Logistical reasons im going to need the Marian reform to deal with the juggernaught
Spooky32, any chance you could upload that save game so the rest of us can take on the Ptolemys and the full stacks of panzers that they have obviously been using.:beam:
gah! they completed my goal for my hayasdan v1.0 campaign before I did
I just started a campaign (266 BC), guess which faction:
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Europe detailed:
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Casse heroic victory (the AI managed that???):
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What?! Sauromatae in Illirya? :laugh4:
I must admit it took me a while to find out the "missing faction" :P
Any more details about the campaign? It seems interesting!
See the save game thread (or my sig for details).
As for the journey:
- Take the Chersonessos
- Build fleet
- Scout and bribe any armies besieging Dalminion
- Sail to Illyria
- Land
- Attack
- Set capital to Dalminion
- Use add_population 1700 to Dalminion
- Very High taxes to original cities
- Original cities revolt
- All this time using add_money, auto_win to survive
- Return to a normal scenario situation
Aren't the units kinda mismatched? :dizzy2: I mean, couldn't you use the KH or someone with a more similar recruitment roster?
Sarmatia seems to be the perfect choice really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Gonzo
1-No one cares about Sarmatia
2-Ilyria has a pretty nice roster and access to lots of mercs.
3-No one cares about Sarmatia
4-Sarmatia usually becomes stagnant and bankrupt in the homelands.
5-Illryia is cool
6-See 1 and 4
Ok, actually the Sauromatae are awesome, its just that they usually stagnate and keep pwned the Armenians.
'Oh dear' is right...
Is that the remnant of Carthage down there in Gaetulia?
That´s got the be the first transglobal (or well, trans EB map) AI faction I´ve ever seen. Incredible, and it´s only 190 BC.
This is the first time -ever- I have seen the Arche fall.
And by an AI faction at that.
Knowing the AI their next targets will be india, maybe the rest of africa, and you
Ptolemy in your campaign = Alexander reborn (for the AI)
Things arent going to well in Gaul either the Averni have been wiped out by the Lusitanians and the Aedui are down to two settlements one is under sige by the Lusitanians.
There has been a bit of a revival for the Karth-Hadast some settlements have rebelled back to them but its just delaying the inevitable.
It's funny they've gone east to west across the whole map but haven't managed to hold onto Axum yet.
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Originally Posted by Spooky32
The size of the Ptolemaic Empire .. well .. :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
Good luck with them :skull:
They're almost as big as the Abbasid caliphate...:hanged:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooky32
@Leviathan DarklyCute:Took the words right out of my mouth! Damn!Better keep a spiked-glove hold on Spain if you want Al-Andalus to be avoided.
What do their armies look like anyway Spooky? Because I'm pretty sure that full stacks of Pantodapoi and Akonsistai couldn't do this!
:egypt:
Sweet jesus!
I recommend you to attack soon! before they get even more powerful! If i was you I would first attack old carthage and quickly take africa. At pretty much the same time I would land stacks in modern israel.
then i would attack egypt from two directions.
soon after that i would start to move stacks into modern turkey.
anyway, good luck!
it would be nice if you wanted to upload a save-file from that game! :D
I have various saves from differrent points in the campiagn i'll up load them at some point.
currently a number of cities have rebelled back to carthage with some armies fileding silver chevron and silver upgrade elephants!.
Right now my only suggestion is to destroy Gaul, Germania, briton and everything in europe, build it up, then make several "Perfect AOR armies" and split them down the middle,
and if that doesn't work and they start conquering territory, it'll be EB history.
Just imagine a player character escapes his Empire and takes refuge in Britain because the Ptoleys conquered everything
Oh and http://www.truthnet.org/islam/Islam-.../Islam_map.jpg
I would suggest keeping one save just so you can see how big they get and on another save play as normal.
And upload your save so we can try too!:knight:
BTW are you using any mods in your game? (playing on ALX maybe?)
OMG!!!
You know Spooky... that's... that's spooky! (ok sorry :shame: )
And you have to KILL THEM ALL!!! to win the campaign... niiiiice...
Destroy or outlast
Yeah, like the Saka-Rauka is going to kill them off. Could you tell us what their diplomatic relations are? I´m guessing they´re at war with the Sab´yn, in which case I doubt they´ll last much longer. Really, I don´t think any faction will last long once that juggernaut decides to crush it unders its mighty feet.
o.oQuote:
Originally Posted by Spooky32
In my games (in 1.1), Seleukids have been stronger than before, not weaker.
yes,with me to.Now the AS is kicking the ptolemai
Meh, they just got very lucky. (the Ptolies)
KH Campaign
M/M with BI
262
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252
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Pretty much every faction is doing well.
Except Macedon, that is. It was either them or me.
Audui had he bad start, but are recovering. It will be a good fight for gaul between the two tribes, unless the Romans take Insubramrog.
The Sauro's held the whole northern Caucasus at some point, but the Hai split them in two.
Epeiros has been allied to me from the start, but they recently attacked me (I'm in 246 by now). I'm also getting regular attacks by Pontos on Byzantium and on Helicarnassos by the Seleucids.
Edit : it's not very clear, but I hold Syracuse (and Messana too by now)
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220 BC
Human player: Romani
In most parts "business as usual", save for Asia Minor: After beeing pushed out from Greece Makedonia made her most glorious return as Lesbian Kingdom and has now wiped out Pontos and thrown the Seleukids out of all of Asia Minor. There seems to be a real Diadoch War ahead with four factions (including Epeiros).
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:laugh4: Loving BI ^^
Slowly making ground against the Sele's and moving into Indian territories, still allied to pahlava since day 1
Pahlava losing/taking territories with Sauro all the time and slowly losing ground to Sele's
Hai are strong , holding their recently taken territories, but seem uninterested in expanding
Pontos ignoring everything else except Mak settlements in Asia minor
Ptollies only seem interested with Sab' Yn who are always sending stacks north, though there is a half stack of Ptollies seiging Kydonia :dizzy2:
KH still hanging in with a couple cities revolting to their ownership
Maks have blitzed poor Getai who have been destroyed and are now focusing on Sweboz to the northwest, Sauro to the northeast and Pontos in Asia minor (yes they are attacking basically everyone they can ... and winning :sweatdrop: )
Romani slowly falling apart since the Carthies landed(!) and took Capua(!), they have a full stack of polybian and allied elites in Roma and Arpi to hold off Carthies who actually have alot of units in Capua, maybe from continued landings?(i have no idea)
Carthies, as above, have invaded mainland Italy, secured all Sicily and are pushing their way through southern France. Carthies and Luso's were allied untill Luso's betrayed them and took Gader. So now the Carthies are sieging Numantia and have a fullstack (in screenshot) heading to retake Gader
Arverni/Aedui are fading powers, offering minimal resistance and petty skirmishes against each other and should have been destroyed years ago if not for Sweboz fighting Maks, Romani fighting Carthies and Luso's fighting Carthies
Casse took a few territories but have stagnated :thumbsdown:
Wow! I really like that expansion in Konny and Voice's campaigns. It shows that Macedonia really doesn't need that much help - folks who say they are wiped out in every campaign are just selectively viewing these things. That Mak Anatolia is just awesome and the Mak blitz in Voice's is very interesting too. Parthians were doing well in Voice's too till he stopped them. And I like that KH is still hanging around in multiple places in Voice's also. Carthage in Voice's is great too!
Yes, that is first of all for the survival of Makedonia in Greece. They are usually not able to hold themselves in Pella, but really have a good starting position in Asia.
I think if we would rename the faction "Epeiros" into "Aeikides" and "Makedonia" into "Antigonides" (not ment as a serious suggestion) no one would be complaining, because Makedonia does not disspear it simply changes from one ruling hellenic family to the other, while the former rulers of Makedonia create themselves a new Successor Kingdom in Asia.
~255BC (cant remember)
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244BC
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I just conquerd those pavhlan settlements. They declared war on me after many years of peace. After taking their homeland provinces I forced them to ally with me and to give me 1000mnai for 25 turns (I love force diplomacy :2thumbsup: )
Right now I'm building up my cities and preparing an army. The Selues should be afraid!
Mac and Epeiros seems evenly matched. KH is still around, holding two provinces, Rhodes and Lesbos. :P
Both the romans and Carthage are massing in Sicily. Soon the Punic war should start.. I hope for carthago to win! :yes:
Really cool Mak expansion konny and Voice, though seldom.:grin:
I'm probably just tired, but I lol'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by konny
:beam:
Epic win:toff:Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7376919.stm :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
Given how much I've been mucking around with the finances, holdings and now even armies of the AI, I doubt my game counts for much. Epeiros have gone to sleep after I used Force Diplomacy to take everything they'd taken off Makedonia off them.
Hope the lesbians win .. eem .. you know .. not the lesbians but the lesbians .. oh well ... the people from Lesbos should win .. this is confusing :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mediolanicus
Heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mediolanicus
Though, I wonder, how is it with other languages?
In Finnish, we got two terms:
Lesbo = A lesbian woman
Lesboslainen = A person from Lesbos
Ehrm, *remembers thread's original topic*
Maaaybe we don't need to have this conversation here. 8p
Btw, out of interest, how did one got about deleting one's messages?
Just imagine if gay women were called "Sappho's", then the Greek Women named Sappho would revolt :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
That's exactly the point~:rolleyes: But enough with that:focus:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olaf The Great
ARVERNI CAMPAIGN 251BC (1058 mnai) M/M Difficulty.
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My campaigns are so damned lazy until 210 BC!
The Romani may look extremely disappointing - however, I have had Rhegion and Taras rebel constantly.
And it is remarkable to note, that they took Patavium, Segesta, Segestica, Dalminion and Massalia in less than a year.
Yes, that is why they are, (Hopefully), going to be pacified by this coming autumn.
Apart from that, there isn't anything greatly interesting yet.
The Sweboz scare me, they gained 5 provinces in 2 years, and have 4 full stacks.
But this is my best campaign in Total War completely, I destroyed the Aedui in 271! Ha! I overcame my fears of debt and beat them to death without losing more than 500 men, and then proceeded to take all of Gaul whilst fighting a silent, unofficial war with young Roma.
That's a blandly uniform army you've got there, Glenn.
Romani H/M BI.exe
Selukids can't manage a war on two fronts. When they concentrate on one the other loses fast. The Sauromatae expansion is unexpected. The Spartans looked dead and buried but are having a resurgance. Pontos is expanding but will be caught between the Black Death and the Yellow Fever.
270bc
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260bc
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250bc
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240bc
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No more uniform than a Marian formation really, I haven't got a great choice of units in my settlements, as I've been paying all my attention to expansion - and those swordsmen beat Lugoae, which are my only other option.
So I use my swordsmen like good cohorts, my family members are playing the role of otherwise too expensive cavalry, and the Solduros were added for a good solid base of power - and because I could afford them.
The stack following the main is 6 units of Lugoae for garrison control of my new acquisitions.
The northern stack, ensuring that Roman army doesn't stab me in the back, is far more varied - though slightly depleted - and no doubt would be easier on your eyes, Quintus Sertorius.
Surely you must find a use for Iaosatae, they're pretty good as slingers go (especially for whittling the enemy down before the lines close, or during sieges). I've always gotten good results from Curepos as well - not for frontal charges mind, but clearing up routing enemies. Gaeroas/Gaelaiche are good flank-coverers too (or even better Celto-Hellenic Spearmen, cheap but solid). Aren't all those swordsmen a bit slow when it comes to mopping up at the end of a battle?
Cool Mak & Steppe-progression, Ravenfeeder.
No, Curepos would simply be unneccessary when I have about 5 free family members surrounded by Brihentin, and they are my cavalry, usually creating the first great rout and thereon slaughtering all the escapees.
As for flankers, they are rarely needed, unless the AI has good cavalry - which Roma holds nothing of the like - two full stacks are in Pannonia, and they have one unit of depleted Extraordinarii between them.
You are right, I see you point of course - but I don't pick and choose varied armies until I have time to sit back and plan.
At the moment, I have to tie Rome's hands, and create fortifications on the Pyrenees - and only then will I be safe to plot.
But thank you for noticing! I'll let everyone return to the topic now.. --
((Now the page has loaded correctly - I admire your Parthia, Ravenfeeder, and most particularly - I admired Makedona before you attacked them - in fact, you may have convinced me to try BI again.))
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Carthies showing their dominance in west with almost all Iberia taken aided by a stream of naval reinforcements, which are now landing around Massalia and moving north and east
Arverni/Aedui still holding out, Aedui having some Mak regions rebel to them before being destroyed;
Casse still stagnant
Sweboz been cut in two by the steamrolling Maks and seem to be on the defensive with a lot of full stack settlements
Romani actually very strong despite losing ground to Carthies, many full stack polybians around northern Italy
Poor KH somehow still holding on despite constant attacks against Rhodos, also having Chersonesos, Emporion and Syrakousai rebel in their favour within a few years. Almost took all Sicily in one year but were beaten back by Cart naval landing.
Makedonia ... Must have a total of ~20 full stacks from Asia minor to the Baltic sea, beating all enemies in their rather unusual path. Also taking advantage of the reformed phalanx they currently are clearing Pontic territories, putting down Aedui revolt and sieging a couple Sweboz settlements.. havent bothered with Romani or Sele's yet (being allied to them might make the difference, maybe)
Sauro declining though they still have a lot of nobles and FM's to be dealt with
Pontos holding remaining territory against Maks with full stacks in cities, yet are still losing
Hai taking advantage of the weakening Sele's along with Ptollies, Pahlava and myself. Also attacking Pontos and have several full stacks roaming around wherever they are needed.
Sele's, having been focusing more on the western enemies have lost a lot of ground mainly (if not only) to myself. Surprised me with 2 full stacks including Hyspatistia(sp) and other elites, retaking Babylon/Seleukia, and then running back to western side, leaving the cities virtually undefended again
Ptollies, besides fighting a stalemate war with Sele's have sent a few stacks Carthage's way to no avail. Defending against Saba constantly
Saba sending the best they can against Ptollies, with one emerging around Seleukia and roaming up and down the border
Pahlava has become tied down endlessly trying to take Sele controlled Hekatmopylos, which has really drained their army to the extent that they only have a couple of 5-6 unit stacks in all their territory, with minimum garrisons in all settlements.
As for myself, recently finished taking Indian regions after underestimating them half a decade earlier. Factional and regional armys pushing all the way to Arbela until both armies were severely depleted, taking advantage of weakened Sele's and a couple slaughtering bridge battles. Now have the Indo-hellenic army and factional army returning to Baktra to begin attack on Pahlava.
Dear lord.
Lusotannan...