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Yeh Tribe, how it will be enforced is a problem which he hasn't really thought out properly - and yes one of the reasons I didn't want this prat in office is because of things he will try and bring in, which were never campaigned for, such as the ones you allude to.
Well they were campaigned for it all in the manifesto . the respect schools anyway as a way of breeding out criminality apparently , though what marching has to do with that is anyones guess , I suppose Boris thinks that by getting kids to walk round a playground in step on a saturday morning means they won't turn out to be thieving gits in later life .Quote:
Yeh Tribe, how it will be enforced is a problem which he hasn't really thought out properly - and yes one of the reasons I didn't want this prat in office is because of things he will try and bring in, which were never campaigned for, such as the ones you allude to.
As for the alcohol thing , well that could be argued that it was covered in his pledge to stop anti social behavior on public transport ...apart from the fact that he listed anti-social behavior as things like swearing and having your i-pod turned up too loud .
But anyway he pledged to do any measures with consultations with the workers and unions , He gas got one manager to say it seems like it might be a good idea and the unions and workers saying no one talked to them about it and how on earth is it supposed to work .
I did like the RMT shop steward suggesting that Boris gets on a train of Liverpool supporters and tells them to stop drinking when they entered London .
So Ottoman rule revived...in the heart of London !
Very much as it is up here, you just are not allowed to wander around swigging White Lightning on the streets.
ahh happy memorys... or maybe just memorys...
I called my brother out on this (he's a train driver). Its outrageous, he says. We can't stop people drinking, its not our job. Oh yes?, I replied. How come you didn't say anything when they banned smoking on trains? That didn't cause the end of civilisation or mass hospitalisation of train drivers, did it?Quote:
He gas got one manager to say it seems like it might be a good idea and the unions and workers saying no one talked to them about it and how on earth is it supposed to work .
Its Bob Crow serving notice that if Boris announces that water is wet, he'll disagree unless the RMT were consulted first. And why is that? Because Bob Crow is an old school trade unions class warrior who could not give a drop of monkey juice about the passengers.
First off I fail to see why all trains on the Underground can't be driverless. Generealy the software recognises the signals and it's the driver that goes through the red light. No more delays, and the staff could be redeployed to work at the station / numbers reduced by natural wastage.
The difference between smokers on the train and drinkers is as I see it drinkers can be far more aggressive and disinhibited.
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The differnce between smokers and drinkers on the train is that if someone has been drinking lots before they get on the train they may well be drunk , if someone has been smoking lots they may well stink of smoke . stopping smoking on the train may reduce the smell , but stopping drnking on the train doesn't stop the drunk .Quote:
The difference between smokers on the train and drinkers is as I see it drinkers can be far more aggressive and disinhibited.
And of course no need to remind you that the smoking ban on the tube was introduced after a disaster where the main fault lay in lack of cleaning and maintainance due to cut backs to make the industry more attrctive for investors in the drive to privatisation
I still wouldn't want second hand smoke in my lungs, thank you very much (though there's enough of that around here anyways).Quote:
Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
Now this is wierd , apparently the move by Boris to put 440 extra "police" on LondonTransport is strangely similar to Livingstones actions last year of actually putting 440 extra Police on the transport network .
Apart from Boris putting "police" on this year and Ken putting Police on last year .
What makes it really wierd is that when Ken sought to expand last years increase by using "police" as well as Police the London Tories were up in arms because "police" are just not up to the job and it does nothing for law and order and was a really bad idea and of course was a case of someone trying to skimp on the finacial aspect by not putting the funding in for proper Police .
Its amazing how they can now find that "police" are now not only up to the job but that its a really good idea which shows how serious they are about law and order when it is one of their own doing it and it shows how fiscally prudent they are .
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Originally Posted by Tribesman
If this is true, and I have no energy or time to check it, this is what one might call a direct hit, Monsieur Tribesman. My compliments.
Ah but Adrian there is more from another angle , was Ken trying to woo the twittering classes before the election as he put the extra officers out in the suburbs ?
He should have grown a shock of hair instead. Would have been cheaper too. Seriously, I believe he was cooked long before the alarm went off. In the end it was Blair's national policies what did in Ken, not 'is own. Ah, poetic justice that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Alas no links again. Lazy Tribes, lazy, lazy Tribes. I feel a song coming on!
I close my eyes and drift away.......:hippie: :daisy:
Hey Apache have a link , could it possibly be a Boris moment with his happy days toytown newspaper smile ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pPCYlYWO6w
I'll take one Small faces and raise you one Kinks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDKIH47nubs
Telling tales of drunkeness and cruelty.
Aw come on Apache , since Boris is now muzzled and scripted by his advisors it has to be ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tFj...eature=related
Surely that appertains to our Great Leader. Never in the field of human conflict has the electorate been inflicted by the afflicted.Quote:
Death of a Clown
However.....
Try to refute this one.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3mi-bKtDGA
Now now IA , you know full well that can't be refuted .
The people are fooled at every election and even when there is fighting on the streets you still find that the replacements are just about as bad as those that got put up against the wall and shot .
Indeed. Thanks for that insight Tribes and very, very true.
I'm off to bed, thankyou and goodnight.Quote:
We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
So now , on Boris .
What do you think so far ?
Several of his job appointents for advisors and consultants have been deemed illegal .
The costing for his new bus dream has gone from £8 million to £100 million in just two weeks .
He has scrapped the deal that obtains a fifth of London Transports fuel at bargain basement prices .
He is revoking cheap fares for the poor on public transport .
His plan to re-phase traffic lights to get traffic moving better had strangely not taken any account of pedestrian crossings at those lights .
Oh and his claim of being a responsible road user was slightly damaged when on one short cycle ride he went through 6 red lights , didn't stop at a zebra crossing , rode on the pavement twice and then cut through a park where cycling is prohibited .....naughty Boris , or should that be dumb Boris as he was being filmed by his promoters to highlight his policy of cycling in the city (and he managed to get lost en route and had to ask for directions)
Why do you hate progress? :mellow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
No, they haven't. Milton's not taking a salary. 0/1Quote:
So now , on Boris .
What do you think so far ?
Several of his job appointents for advisors and consultants have been deemed illegal .
Old news. came out well before the election that they messed the figures up. £100M was the figure the elction was fought on. 0.5/1Quote:
The costing for his new bus dream has gone from £8 million to £100 million in just two weeks .
Please read the story http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...=650&width=850 0/1Quote:
He has scrapped the deal that obtains a fifth of London Transports fuel at bargain basement prices .
Please read the bit of the story that says "The mayor of London said half-price bus and tram fares for 250,000 Londoners on income support, which were also funded by the deal, would still be honoured." And while we are about it: "I think many Londoners felt uncomfortable about the bus operation of one of the world's financial powerhouses being funded by the people of a country where many people live in extreme poverty. "Quote:
He is revoking cheap fares for the poor on public transport .
No more kissy kissy with Chavez is a good thing in my book. 0/1
Can't find the slightest support for this, sorry. 0/1Quote:
His plan to re-phase traffic lights to get traffic moving better had strangely not taken any account of pedestrian crossings at those lights .
He was being filmed by the Daily Mirror, but otherwise, yeah, you got him on this one.Quote:
Oh and his claim of being a responsible road user was slightly damaged when on one short cycle ride he went through 6 red lights , didn't stop at a zebra crossing , rode on the pavement twice and then cut through a park where cycling is prohibited .....naughty Boris , or should that be dumb Boris as he was being filmed by his promoters to highlight his policy of cycling in the city (and he managed to get lost en route and had to ask for directions
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1.5/6, see me after school. :clown:
LOL. Those allegations remind me of some newspaper ... something with getting mail every day ...:laugh4:
So anyway, EA, what's your take on Boris so far?
CR
Milton is not taking a salary because his appointment with a salary was illegal , 3 other appointments are also in question on the same issue .Quote:
No, they haven't. Milton's not taking a salary. 0/1
They will be honoured until the deal closes, same as the fuel deal will be honoured until the deal closes . He isn't renewing the deal .Quote:
"The mayor of London said half-price bus and tram fares for 250,000 Londoners on income support, which were also funded by the deal, would still be honoured."
No EA , new news , its in this mornings evening standard , they are still trying it out even though they know they havn't got the money for it .Quote:
Old news. came out well before the election that they messed the figures up. £100M was the figure the elction was fought on. 0.5/1
the deal was for London transport to help venezuela sort out its massive increase in public transport and get its new networks up and running , that deal was beneficial to the people of venezuela who Boris claims to be concerned about .Quote:
"I think many Londoners felt uncomfortable about the bus operation of one of the world's financial powerhouses being funded by the people of a country where many people live in extreme poverty. "
Oh sorry its old news EA , its from his first session , you know the session that was broadcast live(well live apart from the frequent technical screw ups)Quote:
Can't find the slightest support for this, sorry. 0/1
Ken's not a champaign socialist.........more a Château-neuf-du-Pape socialist.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4087310.eceQuote:
NVESTIGATORS ordered in by Boris Johnson, the new mayor of London, have found endemic waste in the way millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money was spent by the former regime of Ken Livingstone.
Huge sums are unaccounted for, have gone missing or were spent with little tangible benefit, according to the audit. And as the accountants got to work, Johnson discovered 39 bottles of fine wine, including Château-neuf-du-Pape, left in the mayor’s office by his predecessor.
A separate police investigation, led by John Yates, the Scotland Yard detective who headed the cash for honours inquiry, has uncovered evidence of corruption that it believes will produce criminal prosecutions.
Nice to see our money being spent wisely. :wall:
According to a Tory-paid-for audit? :laugh4: