NEW Fix for CTD when starting campaign (Nvidia, High End Cards)

Unfortunately, I don't believe there are any workarounds to the battlemap unit control issue with nVidia 8/9 series cards. I've got an experiment I want to try, but I just don't have time right now (RL is kicking my tail atm ) to work through it.

Alright, would you say what you were going to do? Maybe I could try it out?

I want to try to run WinXP in a VM, with virtualized hardware. I'm curious to see if something like VMWare Player could bypass these issues. As long as you have a fairly new machine, XP/MTW shouldn't stress it it too badly. I guess it will depend on how the VM handles DirectX calls.

Further to my post of 19th May 2010,

No more Crashes to Desktop with error Warnings !! All existing problems solved !!
I now get a few Drops to taskbar ( which reverse perfectly - even during a Battle ) , but that's all.
It appears my Vista O/S does not like me playing the game whilst "background" tasks are running just after Booting up! But this I can cope with!

Excellent.

On the Vista line of thinking, both STW and MTW start up really weird when I have other programs running and minimized. STW was the worst, I got graphical glitches, and both zip up and down from the taskbar while coming up. I had to stop UAC on Vista as well, the "interrupt" while it checks the program out (for your own good! :rolleyes:) broke a lot of older games.

Yesterday, I had my first two CTD's since applying the Button Patch...

The first CTD occurred whilst I was moving an Assassin ( Burgundy to Provence or Toulouse )!

Here I lost a game year ( events but no battle/s ), plus my moves etc. ; as I had forgotten to save after
the Events & Battles had been completed ( following hitting the End Turn Button ).

( All events except two were the same ( for me ). The first difference was that my King did NOT die of an illness; the second that my best Assassin ( Guy of Gisbourne ) failed his mission and was executed!! )

The second CTD occurred during a battle. If I recall correctly, I was moving a unit to/from the main Army/Reinforcements boxes, on the pre battle screen.

Here I lost nothing, as I had saved the game, using the Quick Save at the top of the pre battle screen.

Moral - remember to save - ALWAYS!!

[ NB : I tend to save ( when I remember ) :

a) Directly before hitting the End Turn ( Next Year ) Button
b) Before any Battle ( Battle Screen Quick Save )
c) Upon completion of the Events & Battles by the AI

and sometimes after moving my units around, but before I review taxes, build buildings, train units, etc.. ]

Strangely, when I repeated each of the "moves" that caused each CTD, nothing happened...

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Originally Posted by drone

Excellent.

On the Vista line of thinking, both STW and MTW start up really weird when I have other programs running and minimized. STW was the worst, I got graphical glitches, and both zip up and down from the taskbar while coming up. I had to stop UAC on Vista as well, the "interrupt" while it checks the program out (for your own good! :rolleyes:) broke a lot of older games.

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Strange. On my Vista O/S I have not had the same problems with STW as I have had with MTW.
To date, I have not had any troubles with the UAC either, for any of my games, other than two ( MTW is one, but not STW ), where I need to confirm that the O/S can proceed before it starts running the game. Maybe it's because we have different Graphic's Cards...

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Originally Posted by peter_de123

Hello,

since I got my Nvidia 8800GTS I could not start MTW anymore, which was especially annoying because I bought the Eras Package. I even tried an old MTW version but it also did not work. After reading in various forums I thought it had something to do with the Nvidia Graphics Driver.

When I updated the driver tonight (version 175.16) I decided to give MTW another try. CTD when starting a campaign, just as I was fearing.

However, for some reason I also installed the Napoleon Total War Mod and tried again... SUDDENLY IT STARTED PERFECTLY. :dizzy2:

So it could not be a graphics driver issue... I started toying around, removed and cleanly installed MTW, made a backup and tried to find out what made MTW work when I installed the Mod. I succeded to narrow the problem down to TWO FILES:

button_ipnext.BIF and button_ipprev.BIF in the "Medieval - Total War\campmap\buttons" Folder.

I verified it by using the clean, vanilla installation and only replacing those two files with the ones from the Mod.

NO CTD'S UNTIL NOW ANY MORE !!! :laugh4: :laugh4:

So to all those out there who also have the CTD problem when starting a campaign: Please try it out and report if it works for you.


Since this is my first post I am not allowed to enter a direct Link to a zip file containing the two buttons, so please look here: rapidshare.com / files / 115211547 / MTW_Gold_v2.01_CTD_Fix.zip . html (just remove the empty spaces between the words).


Alternatively you can of course install the NTW1 Mod.

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Friend!!! you are the M.F boss, I'll be grateful for eternity, this crap of modern video cards do not know what a good game, thanks for the solution. MTW forever

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Welcome to the Org, NEDEUS! ~:wave:

Glad it worked for you. If you don't mind, what are your system specs (OS, video card, memory)? I'm assuming by your tone that you are not having the battlemap issues others have seen with the nVidia 8/9 series cards? I'm trying to get as much data as possible for what works and what doesn't with MTW these days. :bow:

Welcome to the org and the main hall NEDEUS, enjoy your stay
:bow:

I have strange problem. Everything is working fine, untill i'm trying to start battle on map with river. Somtimes game crashes after seconds, somtimes after couple of minutes. Anyone know why?

Don't think I've heard that one before, maybe a rendering issue with water? What are your system specs?

Welcome to the Org, Kopta! ~:wave:

You can take out all the river maps - this way you get more interesting battles anyway. In my mod i've done just that - although for gameplay reasons. I don't know what may be causing it.

drone is most likely right, it could well be a rendering issue - if my memory serves me correctly I get strange looking water in battles, I've been to the doctor about it but he said...

What graphics card is it? Have you tried changing any settings or using default settings? What resolution are you running the game at?

ATI radeon HD 4800, on lower resolution it's better, i finish a battle after fifth try.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now its my turn to wring hands and grumble! :P

Hey all, I hope all is well!
Hopefully I can show my own empire progress on M:TW once I get the sod working!
I decided to post here, since it seemed the most appropriate, I don't have a Nvidia or.. other card, but I didn't want to clutter the ol' forum.
Anyway, onto my problem:

I have a R510 laptop, all drivers updated, vista sp2 updated, medieval (one): total war patched with the oldest patch (1.1) and it's still not playing ball, I can load battles just fine, video works fine, it's just the campaign!

I select whom I want to play, it loads up and then goes into the pause menu. Whenever I try and resume game, it just goes back to the pause menu. Do this a couple of times (or just leave it on this menu) and it crashes to Desktop with no error messages.

Before posting I tried the solutions given, example:
Keep to the same resolutions
run in compatibility mode xp sp2
try with 16 bit colour
replace the vanilla campaign button icon with the updated one

but still exactly the same problem :/
I can't change graphics card either since.. well, it's a laptop.

Can anyone here help, or am I doomed to go on my next exercise without a decent game to play?!
If it helps, the spec of my laptop is-

System Model: R510/P510
Bios: Phoenix SecureCore NB Version 06LI.MP00.20080919.SCY
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T5750@2.00Ghz
Memory: 3032MB Ram

Graphics: Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Main Driver: igdumdx32.dll,igd10umd32.dll
Version: 8.15.0010.2302 (English)
DX: 11

Thanks for taking the time to read this and for replying

Edit: Forgot to mention, It's Medieval (one): Total war, not any of the expansion packs or gold edition, although I could probably get it off of amazon if gold is needed to play hah. I'm pretty impatient, but I MIGHT be able to last a week without total war before cracking up... o.o

Welcome to the Org, Greyacid! ~:wave:

Intel graphics chipset, this has been a problem. What resolution are you trying to run with?

The only things I can think of are to try different resolutions, add a skipcredits.txt file in the top level of your MTW folder, try Win2000 compatibility mode instead of XP, and maybe turn off Vista's UAC.

Anyone else got any ideas?

:D Thanks Drone, it's nice to be here, and thanks for the reply!
Before I launch the game, I switch to 1024x768 to match the largest option in the video menu, and it still gives the same crash to desktop at the same place.
Yeah, tried 2k as well as XP SP 2.

Never tried the text file, but the video at the start works fine. Unless 'Skipcredits' is something else? :s Do I have to have anything in the text file, or can I leave it blank?
How would I turn of Vistas' 'UAC'?

The skipcredits.txt file can be just an empty file. It will skip the intro movies, it probably won't help your problem, but it's easy and worth a shot.

UAC is Vista's User Account Control "security" feature. It's the annoying pop-up you get when you try to run anything that requires admin privileges, good idea in theory, poor execution due to legacy issues. I've had it cause problems in older games, there should be a way to turn it off in the Control Panel (not on my home PC at the moment, so I can't remember exactly what to click).

N'ah no joy -.-
definetly at my wits end..

I've emailed intel and sega, hopefully they'll know :P
Thanks anyway man

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Anyone else got any ideas?

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All I can say is what I have already said a 1000 times. For the people so inclined, download and install Redux, that might open up a few doors where as the original MTW will not. Redux has all known fixes (or similar counterparts) built in by default and possibly then some. In my experience Redux is thus more agreeable to various newer hardware then raw MTW.

Obviously, playing the original MTW will then not be possible - on that particular install anyways. Redux are compatible to both V1.1 and VI/V.2.01 (including Gold and Eras-editions). It works on W2000, XP and W7. To find Redux, click on my sig.

It might help some people.

- A

Hi everyone!

I have MTW + VI. I have my own fix with buttons described above. Also, that rapidshare link does not work anymore. But first the story.

So, I was playing campaign for a while and it start crashing all the time. Couldn't even play for a very quick moment. Few clicks and crash. So I start reading posts. Did everything that was advised as a solution. Nope. Came across this post and could not find a good link for those buttons archive. Eventually found it and downloaded. Did not work. But then, game stopped crashing and I played with no crashing until I quit the game. Then, I wanted to play again and the same problem - CDT right after I loaded the game and did few clicks. So, I started to track my actions to see when the game really crash. I noticed that it crashes only when I click one province and only. Why!? So I thought for a while what is so diferrent about that province. And I found what is that. That province had number of building built so they could no longer be displayed in one page. So, I loaded the game and clicked on that province. Game froze before the crash just enough to see that the arrow button that supposed to appear to allow changing to the next page is not shown. So, I figured that the dude is right and it is really buttons. So, I was thinking that if buttons fix I downloaded does not help and one moment those buttons were loaded correctly, as I mentioned above I could play for as long as I needed before I quit the game, I need to find what to do to make them to be loaded correctly. Unfortunately was not lucky. Then I thought, well if other buttons work well why just not copy any other buttons and rename them to have the same name as bad buttons. Who cares they does not fit or looks ugly, important is it that game works. I did so by renaming ipnext and ipprev. They sort of the same arrows. Loaded my game and clicked that province. Worked! Button were not actually ugly and fit well. Just minor overlapping. But the most important it worked. Had not play long so far. Tried, worked and decided to post about it as probably there's many people struggling with this. We'll see how it works further. But this fixes only one issue with buttons. Still have frequent CDT on loading games.

Hope this will help others.

First off, welcome to the Org, Shandor. :bow:

Second, thanks for letting me know the rapidshare link is no longer functioning. That seems to happen a lot. ~:rolleyes: I'll see if I can get it uploaded to our host for a more permanent link.

Thirdly, was it the ipnext.bif and ipprev.bif files you replaced (as well as button_ipnext.bif and button_ipprev.bif the fix was meant for)? I've always thought most of the CTD issues were just incompatible rendering issues, so I should probably out to learn more about the .bif stuff and what the original files did, but I'm not much of a modder. It wouldn't surprise me if other bifs don't hold the CTD trigger.

Well, first I made copy of ipnext.bif and ipprev.bif and renamed them as button_ipnext.bif and button_ipprev.bif. Worked much better as it was still crashing but not every time I clicked the province. Also buttons have brown background. Then I made copy and renamed, don't remember well not as I'm writing this from work, arrow_up.bif and arrow_down.bif as button_ipnext.bif and button_ipprev.bif. This seems solve the issue. So far no CDT when clicking province where buildings does not fit in one page. Also this seems to fix CDT when loading games and going to menu.

But I still have CDT after battles. Reverted to Vista drivers because I remember I had not problem running MTW + VI on Vista. No CDT at all. But reverting to Vista dirvers did not work. Still CDT. Seems Windows 7 to be great issue. On new systems MTW will crash no matter what if VI is not installed. I remember on Vista I could not get MTW running at all, was crashing all the time when starting campaign and none of the solutions helped. After installing VI it was working with no problem. Now as I have Windows 7 it constantly CDT. I also think it could be DirectX and not Windows 7. Reverting to older DirectX may solve the problem.

hello all! this is the first time i write in a forum, but my problem coerce me to look for some help. i´ve read the hole forum dialog from 2008 until 2011 and i am sure, that the napoleon mod will help me. but i can´t find the right mod! please help me! :stare:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...Napoleonic-Mod

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hello all! this is the first time i write in a forum, but my problem coerce me to look for some help. i´ve read the hole forum dialog from 2008 until 2011 and i am sure, that the napoleon mod will help me. but i can´t find the right mod! please help me! :stare:

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Welcome to the Org, Genghis khan! ~:wave:

I have also added in a local link to the 2 files needed for this fix, the link is in the first post of this thread.

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Welcome to the Org, Genghis khan! ~:wave:

I have also added in a local link to the 2 files needed for this fix, the link is in the first post of this thread.

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hey drone! thank you a lot! now i´m the first of my friends who is able to play this great old game again! soooo - i go playing now :)

Hello,
I have the same problem many people have on here, Campaign wont open.

I have a Window 7-64bit
Hd intel graphics card.
Done all the button fix but no change, I have the base version of this game, no gold or mods.
Any help would be really greatful! Thank you.

Welcome to the .Org, sturman123! ~:wave:

I think the problem is your Intel graphics card. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone has had much luck solving issues with the Intel graphics sets. You can try running in WinXP/2000 compatibility mode, updating your video drivers, and tweaking your video settings, but I'm afraid I can't offer any tried/true fixes.

i started play again this game after a long time.
Medieval total war viking is really awesome.
i play at my new notebook with intel graphic card 3150.
at first, like the other, CTD always happen.
thanks to this forum, i read some of the solution and try it.
and this button fix really help, now i can play it again.
but other problem came, CTD happen when play campaign at 1204 to 1205. when early era change to high era.
i tried to search again in the forum, but still didnt get the solution.

but after i change the version to 2.00, isntead of 2.01, now the problem didnt occur anymore.
BTW, i just copy the game from my old hardisk, not install it properly.

Okay I'll give it a go. I have tried compatibility mode, but not upadting the drivers, also tweaked the video settings.

I tried to update the driver but that didn't work, even rolled back but that didn't work, seems like nothing will :( is there nothing else I can do?? :(

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I tried to update the driver but that didn't work, even rolled back but that didn't work, seems like nothing will :( is there nothing else I can do?? :(

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Which Intel card do you have?

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Which Intel card do you have?

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Intel (R) Hd graphics.

The model of my laptop is a Dell Inspiron N5040

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Intel (R) Hd graphics.

The model of my laptop is a Dell Inspiron N5040

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Not familiar with the numbering scheme of the Intel graphics, but from the laptop spec I assume it's the base model (hence the lack of numbering ~:doh:), HD Graphics (Ironlake/Arrandale configuration).

I doubt these suggestions will help (anecdotal superstitions most likely!), but you can try them just for the sake of it:

• Make sure the video resolutions for both the battle and campaign match are set to the lowest settings (600x800 iirc).
• If that doesn't work, match the battle/campaign video resolutions to the desktop resolution (1366x768?) if possible.
• Try both fullscreen and widescreen settings for the game.
• Create an empty file named "skipcredits.txt" in the top level dir of your MTW installation (this bypasses the start movie).
• Make sure no other programs are running (browsers, email clients, explorer, etc) when starting the game.

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Originally Posted by drone

Not familiar with the numbering scheme of the Intel graphics, but from the laptop spec I assume it's the base model (hence the lack of numbering ~:doh:), HD Graphics (Ironlake/Arrandale configuration).

I doubt these suggestions will help (anecdotal superstitions most likely!), but you can try them just for the sake of it:

• Make sure the video resolutions for both the battle and campaign match are set to the lowest settings (600x800 iirc).
• If that doesn't work, match the battle/campaign video resolutions to the desktop resolution (1366x768?) if possible.
• Try both fullscreen and widescreen settings for the game.
• Create an empty file named "skipcredits.txt" in the top level dir of your MTW installation (this bypasses the start movie).
• Make sure no other programs are running (browsers, email clients, explorer, etc) when starting the game.

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Tried and failed :/ looks like I'll just have to go without :(. thanks anyway

i had to personally just sign up to this site to thank the guy who came up with this fix for days upon days i messed around with the files and then this solution worked wonders thank you so much have a great xmas buddy pints on me if i ever see you!!!

Welcome to the Org, Sandiko! ~:wave:

Ok guys, I have installed the xl mod with the tyberius 3 version on my windows 8 pc. However, the campaigns dont start. Just when the loading seems to end, the game crashes to desktop. I have searched the web for a solution but nothing comes up and many people seem to have this issue with windows 8. None of the compatibilty mods work and I also tried the button fix solution. Nothing. This is deeply annoying since I was really prepeared to play as cumans and crush everything visible. Anyhow, if anyone has a solution for this please let me know.

Apart from Win 8, what are your system specs? Video card, memory, etc.?

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Apart from Win 8, what are your system specs? Video card, memory, etc.?

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AMD bulldozer 8 core,
16mb ram,
Ati 7850 hd graphics card

It runs most of the old games that i tried but i think that the medieval 1 is the oldest that i have tried until now.

Have you applied the button fix patch? ATI cards have generally been kind to MTW, but it still might help. You can also try running in WinXP or Win2000 compatibility mode.

Resolution fix might help too but... as drone wrote if campaign doesn't start with compatibility mode and button fix, there is very little hope.

Yeah unfortunately i tried all of those solutions none worked. I have been searching through the net and it seems that its a common issue with other windows 8 users. from now on i wont have high hopes but if u guys see a solution somewhere please let me know. And thanks.

I don't know anything about Win 8 (apart from the fact that I will never purchase it), but I assume the live tiles and start screen screw with MTW.

You might want to try running in Debug Mode. Copy the MTW shortcut (if that's even possible in 8), name the copy something like "Debug MTW", and edit the target to something like:

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"C:\games\Medieval - Total War\Medieval_TW.exe" D

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adding the D to the end.

This will open MTW in a 800x600 window. You will have to change the campaign and battle resolutions to 800x600 (sad, I know), but it might get you going.

You' re right. I might help but D has nothing to do with resolution. Main menu is always 800x600 but size of a campaign or battle map window will be exactly the same as you set in options. The window sticks to the upper left corner and it depends on you how much of the screen it'll cover. During testing I play using 1200x900 (17" 1440x900) and it works nice and smooth (but I use win XP).

Ok guys i will give it a try. Thanks alot for the help.

Hey guys,

Having the same issue here.

Running Win7 64bit.
Intel Core 2 Quad CPU @ 2.83GHz
4.00GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+


Have tried to download the 'button fix' files but can't seem to find a still-active download link. Appears to have been removed from rapidshare?

Any help would be much appreciated!


Regards,
Andy.

Try the "Local Link" found in my edit of the first post, that will get you to the file we have hosted here.

Welcome to the Org! ~:wave:

Hey, I've been trying to play Medieval on my Acer Aspire Laptop, It's got an Intel i7-2630qm processor and an Nvidia Geforce GT 540M on Windows 7. A few months ago I was playing it and it didn't CTD once, until I got to a certain year in my campaign, as soon as the year started the program "stopped working" and it CTD. Now when I go on the campaign, it either crashes as soon as I get onto the strategy map, regardless of whether I make a new save, or it will crash maybe one or two years later. I tried the compatibility administrator thing but it said the program was 32 bit so it wouldn't fix it, I haven't tried the button fix so if that would help could someone tell me how to do that?

Welcome to the Org, Jedleh! ~:wave:

You can download the patch from post#1 of this thread, the "Local link" at the bottom is valid. The patch is just a zip file with 2 files inside, button_ipnext.BIF and button_ipprev.BIF. You want to put those 2 files in the campmap\buttons directory of your MTW install (rename the existing ones if you want to keep them around). That's pretty much all you have to do, hopefully it gets you going again!

why it still doesn't work?

packard bell
EasyNote TJ65
Pentium(R) Dual Core CPU T4500 2.30 GHz
Sistema operativo a 64 bit

I want MTW!! I need MTW!!

Are you running Win7 or 8? Along with the patch from post#1, you might need to run MTW in WinXP/2000 compatibilty mode. I believe the GPU in that machine will work with Medieval.

Welcome to the Org, Matteo5883! I like your MTW enthusiasm. :yes:

Thanks for this fix! 6 years and a few video cards ago I got it working by back dating driver, I didn't really want to do that again. (don't know if I can) This works great! For the sake of helping any one interested, I'm running a AMD Sempron at 1.8 GHz, 1 gig of ram, a GeForce 8400 GS also with a gig of ram (if anyone wants to start playing violyn) I haven't got a new game since Company of Heroes came out. Discovered Europa Barbarorum about a year ago and have been hammering Roma Surrectum II 2.6 for about a month now. MTW is really a great old game and I'm getting back into it. For how long, who knows?

button_ipnext.BIF and button_ipprev.BIF in the "Medieval - Total War\campmap\buttons" Folder.
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Hello, My name is Agustin, my pleasure meeting you. I want to use that fix, but cant file those files u ment ion in the xl el folders. u mean i have to get them from a clean instaL of mtw??

thnaks anyway it seems it truly works!

The CTD occurs when the game tries to render the original (vanilla) versions of those files. The fix is to replace them with new button files created for the Napolean MTW mod (you can get those two files from the links at the bottom of the first post in this thread), these new button images do not cause the crash for whatever reason. So you just need to take those two .bif files from the downloaded patch, and place them in the campmap\buttons directory (relative to the top level dir the game is installed at).

Hope that helps! :bow:

damn, now I figured out howa was the stuff (Thanks drone) it seems the rapidshare link is down, were can i find the mentioned napoleon mod to starct them from there??
thank u lovely community

Try the local link here at the Org.

drone, are u really a drone?? cause u fast mate!!
THAAANCX!!!

im gonna try it right now and tell u guys if it woorks on a pci integrated graphic device, it seems this intel stuff is really crapy, not even can play eu3 properly!!

Thank to the gods and this good lad's files!
yep!
it works, at least it helped me, (integrated grapichs users should use this)
now im whooping butts with sotland!!


ehem but by the way, anywone nows if u can build chapter houses with scotish or nordish ppl? cause im añready castle lvl 3 and can build cathedral but no crusader house!! (for recruiting crusdae)

Hi all,

thanks for the link,

I tried to place the two files but it still doesn't work.

My computer:
Windows 7
Acer
Aspire5732Z
Pentium(R) Dual-Core Cpu T4400 @ 2.20GHz
RAM 2.00 Go
64 bits

I have the two version of the game: for windows 7 and for 98/2000/xp, both of them crash when I start campaign...

Someone could help a poor sad french guy?

Thanks

Welcome to the Org, charles58! ~:wave:

Quick Googling the Aspire shows that it has the Intel GMA 4500 series video adapter, which does not bode well for getting MTW running. Can you verify that this is your video adapter?

Thank you for the welcome and the quick answer!

Yes I am running with the nasty Intel GMA 4500M... So there is nothing to do?
I'm upset, I love Total war series, I bought recently Empire+Napoléon, I can't install it because there is a problem with steam server connection,
so I bought my favourite, the old MTW for windows 7 and even this one leave me alone...

Ok, after 658 tries, steam works. Empire installation is running. Only 10h30 to wait... But no dream, i made a search, you're right, my video adapter sucks.

The Intel adapters cause fits for MTW unfortunately. If you have time to waste, you could experiment with VMWare, but I doubt it will get you anywhere.

My turn to have graphic card issues with MTW.

My specs:

Intel Quad Core i5 2.40GHZ
8 GB RAM DDR3
nVIDIA GeForce GT555M - 2GB video card memory
750GB HDD

Windows 7 64-bit

Now, the issue at hand is the fact that around 1095 my campaign goes bust. I can play for 10-15 turns or so, and then bam, CTD. No matter what I do, it crashes. :gah:

I didn't try the button fix yet, I just worked around with the Compatibility Mode and I'm using the Integrated Graphics Processor since the Nvidia card causes endless flickering.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Is it always 1095? That's the Deus Volt year, maybe the event is causing the crash.

Not always 1095. It's also 1088 and I experienced 1091 as well.

None of these fixes work with win 8 unfortunately as the game won't even go past the legals splash screen. Is there any fix anyone has recently discovered on windows 8 (Even if it requires these fixes as well)? I heard the game doesn't like intel gpu's as well which my laptops is (Intel HD graphics 3000- can run rome 2 on low settings ok surprisingly btw)

When considering playing first MTW - Win 8 is bad, Intel gpu is bad, Win8 + Intel is beyond bad. I don't know which part is worse in this case. The game is 14 years old and it doesn't even recognize PCs with more than 2GB of ram correctly (that's why most of people needs resolution fix). I doubt there is a solution for your configuration but if you find one, please, let us know.

Exactly I haven't heard of anyone getting it to work on win 8 and also heard intel gpu's were bad before now
And don't worry I will let the whole community know if I find a solution

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Ok guys, I have installed the xl mod with the tyberius 3 version on my windows 8 pc. However, the campaigns dont start. Just when the loading seems to end, the game crashes to desktop. I have searched the web for a solution but nothing comes up and many people seem to have this issue with windows 8. None of the compatibilty mods work and I also tried the button fix solution. Nothing. This is deeply annoying since I was really prepeared to play as cumans and crush everything visible. Anyhow, if anyone has a solution for this please let me know.

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You got it running on windows 8 with XL? (I failed even with XL) you are lucky to get past the legal splash screen presumably Tyberius 3 is making it get past there in the first place may google that as I haven't heard of that.

Actually has anyone thought with mtw on windows 8 that the reason it crashes is just because one of the buttons on the main menu is incompatible? or has someone tried that and it runs deeper

I tried the buttons issue and it works on Windows 7, but I'm pretty sure it's still unstable later onwards in the game.

Just wanted to add that the buttons fix is working like a charm for me so far (this is on the XP half of my hard drive -- I've not tried it on the Win7 half).

Wish I'd noticed this fix sooner, but definitely better late than never! I'm just happy I can finally play MTW/VI again. :2thumbsup:

From the TWC, possible workaround for Win 8.

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Originally Posted by roy_d_merkel

What worked for me was a program called dxwnd: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dxwnd/ (a program normally used to force programs into windowed mode using emulation) basically you want to use default settings except for the following changes:
1. Hot patch (obfuscated IAT) needs to be turned on under Main
2. turn on by default set no ALPHACHANNEL under DirectX
3. Under Direct3D turn off Clear Target Viewport
4. under libs change GDI to Emulated Device Context.
5. under compat change Limit Available Resources to on.

let me know if this makes sense. This seems to work on my windows 8.1 laptop at least.

oh and you need the 2.03.02 version or 2.03.03 (I used the 2.03.03 version, under binary versions but I don't know how it's different from 2.03.02)

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I got a bee in my bonnet and went to play. First time in 3+ years. Old computer wasn't working, so I tried getting the game to run on my laptop. No dice. Thank you for sharing this file swap trick. It worked! Now, the battle screen has some weird ghosting going on, but nothing I can't live with...

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Originally Posted by peter_de123

Hello,

since I got my Nvidia 8800GTS I could not start MTW anymore, which was especially annoying because I bought the Eras Package. I even tried an old MTW version but it also did not work. After reading in various forums I thought it had something to do with the Nvidia Graphics Driver.

When I updated the driver tonight (version 175.16) I decided to give MTW another try. CTD when starting a campaign, just as I was fearing.

However, for some reason I also installed the Napoleon Total War Mod and tried again... SUDDENLY IT STARTED PERFECTLY. :dizzy2:

So it could not be a graphics driver issue... I started toying around, removed and cleanly installed MTW, made a backup and tried to find out what made MTW work when I installed the Mod. I succeded to narrow the problem down to TWO FILES:

button_ipnext.BIF and button_ipprev.BIF in the "Medieval - Total War\campmap\buttons" Folder.

I verified it by using the clean, vanilla installation and only replacing those two files with the ones from the Mod.

NO CTD'S UNTIL NOW ANY MORE !!! :laugh4: :laugh4:

So to all those out there who also have the CTD problem when starting a campaign: Please try it out and report if it works for you.


Since this is my first post I am not allowed to enter a direct Link to a zip file containing the two buttons, so please look here: rapidshare.com / files / 115211547 / MTW_Gold_v2.01_CTD_Fix.zip . html (just remove the empty spaces between the words).


Alternatively you can of course install the NTW1 Mod.


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Rapidshare link seems to have expired, here's one from GameFront until I can get this hosted locally
MTW_Gold_v2.01_CTD_Fix.zip
Local link
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Although looks like you have only 2 posts, and probably will never login again..
But after 8 years, I want to thank you one more time. I just applied your fix and it worked like a charm.

Maybe you will never know, but your fix is everywhere now. You are a legend, fixed the problem of thousands, and disappeared in the deep of internet forever, like a hero. But you will be remembered forever, and geeks will name their children "peter" to honor you.

Hi Everybody,

Do you know how I can install NTW1? I found a web which contain the mod but I cannot download the mod. The web page is http://www.thelordz.org/mods.html

Thanks,
MoKuS.