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Let me restate the general Throne Room rule: If you are using a character created by someone else in one of your stories, you absolutely MUST get permission from that person before you post it. It does not matter whether the character is the other person's actual avatar or just a random NPC that they have created. DO NOT USE SOMEONE ELSE'S CHARACTERS WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. This is a very serious rule and I will not hesitate to remove people from the game if they violate it.
That would have been too mean even from Kantakouzinos.~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
But it is my character, and I did create her :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Then you have nothing to worry about and my post doesn't apply to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by YourLordandConqueror
My deepest apologies for my long absence,
I have been absent on my holidays and I feel somewhat guilty that I have missed such a large portion of events. It took me a couple of days to digest all the recent events and am happy to return to hopefully play my part in this epic once again.
As for my holidays, I had a tremendous time touring around the countries of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Romania. I would recommend the cities of Tallinn and Vilnuis to anybody (that is not to say i did not enjoy the other places i went but those two stood out). The trails in the Carpathians in Romania were superb as well.
Anyway enough of that Nevoulas has some catching up to do.
Welcome back, Smowz !!
Seems like Asteri needs you...
I totally agree. I'm noticing there is a "scribe's convention" in the Senate lately. Having your proxy argue with the other guy's proxy gets old.Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
Having a scribe give basic information to the Senate is one thing, but having him arguing is another. Like AG, I think the game is richer if we have our characters debate in person.
Stop... trying... to... goad... me... OOC... ~;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
And Mak wouldn't care about that anyways. He could care less if Ioannis adopted random people. His beef with him IC is that he didn't checkmark a simple form. :yes:
I wasn't goading you, PK... I just love when you get nasty... Is all...~;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Grandmaster of the Order of St John the Golden-Mouthed or is it the Foul-Mouthed ? :yes:
Wait till I get nasty at your character... ~;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
And he was golden-mouthed until he got to the Senate. Now, being in that "wretched hive of scum and villiany" has left him cranky. :clown:
Yes but having my character constantly walking in and out of the building, 'tired from a long journey to Constantinople' sounds a bit odd as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Poor Savvas will get grumpy if you don't allow him to have his secret decadent bacchanalias in peace and out of sight of his fellow noblemen.
I could start on some innuendo right there but I beg to differ...:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Savvas is grumpy to Mak anyways. ~;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Sorry, but from an OOC point of view, I much rather interact with Savvas, than Savvas's scribe.
IC however, I do admit Mak is enjoying the peace and quiet.
All the more reason to have Savvas stick around more. You want to keep Mak on your toes don't you? :clown:
Good to see you back!:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smowz
You didn't happen to visit Tartu while you were in Estonia? :clown:
Anyway.. Tallinn is a great place to visit.. but personally I wouldn't want to live there. :beam:
I did spend a few days in Tartu yes, I stayed at a small inexpensive B + B in a closeby suburb. It is a nice little place I thought, nice little square and centre, with plenty of friendly people to talk to. I actually took a day trip from there to Otepaa as well. If I would have stayed longer i would have taken the ferry out to that big lake nearby but alas i did not have time.
I'm glad that Templar guy is blocking the way for the Jihadists as well as us :clown:
Unfortunately he won't block the Germans. If you click on the Crusader army, the yellow shows that they can just walk past the Templar general. I had hoped that the Templar would have stopped both the Germans and the Egyptians there so they could kill each other. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eliit Tuhkur
But it would be nice if the Egyptians went and killed that guy for us. He turns a 1 turn trip into a 3 turn trip. :wall:
Just to let everyone now I'll be in Berlin from tomorrow till Friday, so no posts from me.
For such a jovial guy, Savvas has a very unhappy army. :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
They've been out in the field with that drunkard for about 10 years or so :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Time to take a few more low blows at Mak then ~;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Happy birthday, TheFlax !!
:birthday2: :happybirthday3: ~:cheers:
~:wave:
Can I speak for Kage and reject the MotH? He rejected PK on my instruction, and considering Cecil is one of PK's cronies, I doubt Kage would accept it. It's just that by the time Kage gets back online, I'll be in bed, and I'm very busy tomorrow.
Ignoramus,
Tough case, but the CA about adoption that passed leaves the decision in the hands of the adopter.
We can guess what Kagemusha would want, and you'd probably be right, however the decision is his to make. We have to wait.
BTW, have you been moving Aleksios towards the capital?
Edit: Possible thought, do all the Megas stuff, save right before you press end of turn and have the game primed to advance. Then, when we get Kag's decision, you're ready to go.
Go ahead and reject the adoption. I dont think Ioannis has anymore intentions of adopting the second in charge of the order then he had adopting the grandmaster.Edit: And happy birthday The Flax!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Happy birthday Flax
Thanks, Kage.
Sorry for the delay guys, but there's an in game issue I'm raising with TC.
Let me guess... huge Egyptian fleet sunk half of the crusaders?
No, but it is to do with the in game event(otherwise I wouldn't raise it).
Ig and I seem to have opposing schedules, so apologies if this isn't resolved quickly. At the latest, I will deal with the issue when I get home this evening (EST). Also, it appears I may have missed the 1117 Crusader movement. If this is the case, I will just do both 1117 and 1119 at the same time, since it's all console work anyway.
:balloon: :balloon3: :balloon2: Happy Birthday TF! :balloon: :balloon3: :balloon2:
Oops, Happy Birthday!
God forgive me, but I do like giving hokey speeches. :laugh4:
"I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
And we're just the guys to do it.
"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
I just about threw up. That's a sure fire way of knowing if a speech was hokey or not!
Well done OverKnight...I feel like storming a few beaches. :clown:
Sorry but your references lost me there...:dizzy2:
Though I'd like to share the joke...:yes:
TC, GH, and I are quoting this movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
:beam:
Think I saw it way back then but I'll have to check it out... Belushi is a must...
One of the best movies ever...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
And for Belushi, you can't go wrong with Blues Brothers either. It's a great Chicago movie. :2thumbsup:
"I hate Illinois Nazis..."
Blues Brother is cool (makes me want to dance, anytime I see it...) but I particularly like 1941...
Makes me think of Pearl Harbor (the movie) on acid...:2thumbsup:
Never did see 1941. I own Pearl Harbor though and it is an abomination. (Has some cool special effects at least.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
I concur : PH is Hollywood movie machine at its worst though I'll agree with that there is some cool FX
As to 1941, it may be the worst Spielberg movie but I can't help laughing...:laugh4:
:jumping:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
That was the reason for the delay. Igno noticed the massive detours both the HRE and Jihad armies were forced to take as a result of that one guy. I made an executive decision and teleported him home.
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Oops, got the names mixed up in that one. Those bastards are from Stavros' fleet, as reflected by the current edited version.
So I can't start a bastard revolution against Hypatios in 16 years?:bigcry:
Also, dang scurvy :shakes fist angrily:. Luckily, I think it goes away pretty fast once you reach land.
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
You have no idea how annoying that guy was... :wall:
I have a general SS question. How is the Caesar resupplying? He is now fully supplied but the territory he came from is not converted. Pavlos is still down to 25% supplies. I'm just trying to figure out this crazy supply system. :dizzy2:
And yeah, it seems most of the Crusaders are sick. Vissa, Annios, and Bart have scurvy. Efstatios is unhealthy. And Methodios is really unhealthy.
How come my men had to be the ones obessed with women?
You're the only one who rolled a 1 this turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knights_of_Palma
I'm really starting to have a love-hate relationship with that die. The effects are amazingly comical - until you're in a civil war battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Yes, the cavalry officers that decided to go to bed through the entire Battle of Bern were quite comical.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
:beam:
Just Bern?
-edit- Actually, that may just net its own subsection in the Levels of Losing aside the Hand-Wringer. "The Hair-Tearer": when units refuse to obey orders at critical points in the battle.
That's the one I remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
And yeah, I had my own "hair-tearer" moment but it wasn't because my units didn't obey orders. It was because I was too lazy to cut and paste on the paint program and swap the dismounted knights on the right with the crusader sergeants on the left. I knew you had men coming along the walls from my left and I knew the knights would have handled your knights better on the walls. But I was in a hurry that morning and I wanted to send my paint save to Econ. So I never switched them. Your knights mauled my sergeants on the left wall. Which allowed your knights to make it down to the gates, hurt Jan's bodyguards, and tie up his infantry when he made his fateful cavalry charge into the town center.
All because I was lazy... :wall:
Dude, check out the Battle for Rome - the allies and I may have had it worse in that one. There were about 93 chances to catch Servius that were lost because the stupid cavalry wouldn't move.Quote:
That's the one I remember.
Trent too, although not as much. It stopped the Republicans from going 6-for-6 in terms of netting Imperial generals.
I was just checking the latest save and was wondering why there were no bridges in the Antioch Region: because there are no roads. :shocked2:
One question I do have to make sure I have the correct version I see the recruit bodyguards is still available in settlements, I thought that was removed or was it left in? I did download the last update provided by TC. :help:
I wasn't around for Rome. I read it a long time ago but didn't pick up that detail. And since I wasn't in Trent, I didn't read too closely at the details. :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
*edit*
No, there are no roads. Believe me, it's been mentioned IC to the Caesar, Senate, people on the street, small animals, and the trees... >_<Quote:
Originally Posted by NN
Yeah, the bodyguard recruitment was left in since we keep using it for replacement avatars.
:2thumbsup: I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I think your roads will have to wait (again) with the Fatimid on Greek land and no troops in the area to beat them off. There will have to be some major recruitment. :whip:Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Oh I've been screaming IC about that too... :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
Every settlement in the game will be able to recruit RBGs for the entirety of LotR. This is to allow us to spawn new avatars whenever and wherever we want. RBGs may not be recruited for any other reason, since using them as regular military units would be an exploit due to their very low recruitment (1 florin) and upkeep (1 florin) costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
An Egyptian army landed between Corinth and Athens, a Turkish Jihad army moving southwest...this is going to be an interesting Jihad after all :P
Not to mention the fact that the Force is strong in them... :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Hmm... Shouldn't all the Crusaders get the trait called 'Crusader' once they land in Egypt??
This is a good point. I'd leave the specifics up to Tincow, but at least some of the Crusaders should get that line of traits if the game will allow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
Personally, I'm starting to have flashbacks to the Cataclysm. Except no kidnapping this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
My reaction to the Jihad is the same as my reaction to the "rebellion event."Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
And that is, "well, at least the stacks don't have triple-gold chevrons..." :P
Since there are enemy armies in range to threaten the Egyptian capital I would fully expect the AI to be attempting to send their troops to Sarkel. Defense is a dirty word. :laugh4:
I know nothing of code, but it astonishes me that even the most basic tenets of strategy are entirely absent from MTWII's AI. I remember someone said that reloading the save (Inevitable in our style of game) breaks some aspects of the AI, but in my experience it's useless whether you do that or not. More than once in my Total Independence campaign a large AI army would walk past one of their former cities that I had recently conquered and left entirely undefended trying to reach one of their remaining cities that my own forces were closer to or already held under siege.
In other words, I, for one, am very glad we have a competent opponent for this crusade. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:
Yes it is Tincows decision. I was just thinking that after everything some Crusaders have gone through they will get nothing from it if Alexandria or Cairo are taken before they ever reach there. So if the get the trait *Crusader' then at least they can brag about being a part of a Crusade!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
Anyway.. Like to see what TC thinks about that...
I will consider it, but I do not guarantee I will implement it. All of you knew from the start what the rewards were and what the risks were. If you don't like getting nothing out of it, there are ways for you to hinder your competitors.
They can already brag about being part of the Crusade. It will impress some characters but won't impress others. The extra traits won't change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
I'd be in favor of adding Crusader traits if we talked about it before the Crusade started. Now that it is underway, I don't like the idea of changing things in the middle of it.
Just my 2 cents...
But I do understand the importance of "bragging rights." In KotR, Jan had Crusader traits up the ying-yang and I gave him a big ole chip on his shoulder because of it. So, I say give your character a swagger over being a Crusader if you want to. The rest of the characters will react, or not react, accordingly. :yes:
Well .. I never thought about that then!:shame::embarassed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
My guess is that is up to the Megas since it costs money. He can certainly ask Cecil his opinion on it. And Cecil can always destroy it if he doesn't want it. But I don't know if Senators can approve of Guilds themselves. No mention of Guilds is in the rules. Not for lack of trying on my part but the issue always died when I brought it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by OK
[old man voice]In my day going on Crusade meant you walked 40 years across all of Europe, Anatolia and the Levant. We didn't have any ships, we considered ourselves lucky if we had shoes! Foot ships we called them! And it wasn't a proper Crusade unless you defeated three Jihad armies before you got to where you were going! And it was uphill all the time! Bah! Crusaders today, a bunch of pansies the lot of you![/old man voice]
Settle down, old man Otto.
In my day, you were simply born in the Levant and you were allowed to join a Crusade to the province next door simply because you happened to be around at the time.
:laugh4:
[old man voice]And in my day if a Religious Leader go too uppity, putting on airs, ordering people around and such, we didn't ban him from the Diet! No, we drowned him in raw sewage or hacked him to pieces! A good old vetoing, that's what we called it![/old man voice]
And in my day, if an Emperor got too uppity, we simply bribed bandits to kill him while he traveled. None of this "civil war" mumbo-jumbo.
:clown:
Hey, you're welcome to try.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
You're right on all counts. Control over guilds was always rejected by the majority when it was brought up. Since the rules do not cover it, it is under the Megas' jurisdiction. If Cecil doesn't want the guild but Igno builds it anyway, he can just knock it down. I think that's unlikely to happen, though, given how tight the budget is lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
I think Cecil needs to replay his turn then, unless he has already contacted Ignormous.
Only if Igno protests, which I doubt he will. However...
This bit annoys me greatly. This seems to me to be an intentional exploitation of the AI. The whole reason that the Templar was moved in the first place was because the AI was too stupid to attack it and insisted on taking the long way around Anatolia. This is also a method that even circumvents my own methods of controlling the game, since the blatantly obvious thing for the Jihad armies to do is to squash the tiny army in their path and keep marching. However, I cannot start a battle when controlling the AI because it would have to be autoresolved, something which is very unfair to anyone controlling an avatar in the victimized stack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
However, the Jihad is part of the Crusade Event and therefore I can do what I want to make sure it is implemented properly. I am therefore declaring my intention to park those armies directly in Armatos' face next turn. If he does not move out of the way, I will then have the AI attack with both stacks and let autoresolve determine his fate. I will do the same for anyone else who blocks the Jihad armies but does not attack them. If you want to stop these things, you need to fight them. Otherwise, clear out of the way. Doing otherwise is exploiting the AI.