He is too undecisive, unwilling to take risk, trying to appease. I would happy die for Cao Cao to protect his honour.
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He is too undecisive, unwilling to take risk, trying to appease. I would happy die for Cao Cao to protect his honour.
i agree vote:atheotes
hmm...care to explain why i took my vote of White_eyes when he was the lynch candidate?
I thought Beskar had quit this game...it is not like himself to stay so quiet :inquisitive:
Fools speak while the Wise listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
no one is going ot be Wog'd... white_eyes will be replaced by Subotan.
to be honest, my gut says that you are not keen on playing as mafia and would rather be a townie. So the fact that you gave your place doesnt mean anything to me.
66% chance of survival is not as good as 100%.
so unvote, vote:khaan
FoS: Sprig
Only post since joining the game and its "i agree + vote" :inquisitive:
Yes, of course you're going to argue that you're a bog-standard townie. No use arguing anything else because it'll either get you murdered or lynched. Therefore, I'd say your reasoning is not correct and only there to mislead us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
vote: Beskar
Care to explain your vote?Quote:
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
Random vote to provoke discussion.
Day 2 is over. Stand-by for execution.
White_Eyes:D has henceforth been replaced by Subotan.
Exactly, was Subotan would have otherwise replaced me.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Nevermind, I will get killed tonight anyway. atheotes is my killer.
The Red Phoenix - Day 2
Final Tally:
Yaseikhaan (3) - ATPG, Joooray, atheotes
Joooray (2) - FH, DiY
atheotes (2) - Beskar, Sprig
FactionHeir (1) - Yaseikhaan
This day had been significantly more active than the previous one, now as most advisors sprung from their seats making elaborate arguments accusing the others of being the ones behind the death of Xiahou Dun. Probably the fire started at night and the fact that someone had indeed been killed probably had made them all edgy and eager to find out who was behind the plot, rather than caring about a spy who wouldn't harm them directly, yet which could endanger them in battle.
Regardless, hours passed and the council had focussed on three members, until atheotes rose from his seat and acused his colleague. "It was Yaseikhaan! Remember that he previously served our enemy Liu Bei and his heart has never left that petty wandering bandit!" Other advisors who had also accused Yaseikhaan nodded and cried in choir "atheotes is right! It can only be Xu Shu!"
Therefore Xu Shu was seized by the guards, and Cao Cao called. "What they say is exactly what I think. You served Liu Bei and your plans killed many lives when you were under him. While you served me, you couldn't come up with any devious plans of your own, and now that I am before my moment of glory, you intend to alienate me from my trusted advisors and have murdered my cousin? I suppose the death of your mother was not reason enough to understand you should never deal with that coward Liu Bei?" Cao Cao's expression than changed, "And you would dare kill me???" Cried Cao Cao, visibly angry. He continued "Guards, take this dog away and behead him. Send a messenger with his head to Liu Bei and tell him if he doesn't surrender, that will be his fate in the coming battle. Xu Shu said very little throughout the entire speech until Cao Cao ordered his guards to kill him. Only then he began shouting a volley of abuse "You tyrant! Wicked and vile rebel! Corrupt and mean soul! Despicable rat! You will pay for your crimes against the Han and the people! You-" By then the guards had already carried him out of the tent. The advisors continued hearing various loud sounds until they heard a sword cut through flesh, and everyone knew Xu Shu was no more.
As most advisors went back to their daily duties, Cao Cao thought that the arguments had been quite convincing and that Xu Shu was indeed the conspirator behind the killing.
With the day over, Cao Cao's staff went to their tents and while most thought it over, a few were not so sure yet.
https://i642.photobucket.com/albums/...648-Xu-Shu.jpg
Xu Shu, Junior Advisor of the Han Army was executed.
Alive (11):
Death is yonder
Subotan
A Very Super Market
atheotes
Beskar
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Joooray
Sprig
AskthePizzaguy
FactionHeir
Paulus Tertius
Executed (2):
Centurion1 - Mao Jie
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu
Assassinated (1):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun
Night 3 orders are due in 8 PM GMT / 3 PM EST, 13th of November.
:laugh4: lets see what happens tonight. and thanks for ensuring that i wont be killed tonight :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Oh wait, this is a small game, not a mini-mafia.
My big apologises Jolt for ever thinking of leaving. :bow:
ahhh.....sorry about that.....bad time to forget my password I guess..??:shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
No_problem:D
atheotes is innocent obviously since he cast the deciding vote on khaan :yes:
Wait, Khaan was guilty? :dizzy2: I can't tell.
I had been hounding him all game. What does that make me? Can I get a bodyguard or something?
Yes, he's guilty. Xu Shu was the historical traitor.
awwwww yeaaaahhhhh
*dances a jig*
you had to spoil it for Beskar... didn't ya :whip:Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
@ ATPG
If Khaan IS guilty then yes, you will be next to die, I think. I too voted for him 1st round, then I was killed that night. (feel so special that I beat you this time, on getting murdered, ooooh!) :laugh4:
Tisk tisk, ATPG...Read the initial storyline. It says who the two Mafiosi are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Excellent choice on the lynch guys! :2thumbsup:
Nicely done, :yes:
Good thing my lynch choice didn't go through then, I was hoping that random votes would cause more flurry of discussion, but I suppose random voting and sticking to it from day one works too, :pleased:~:wacko:
Heres what's happening folks, I planned to stay this weekend here at my college dorm in Lisbon where I have net and could proceed the game harmlessly. Usually, as most of you know, when I'm not at my college dorm I'm travelling towards my home in Northern Portugal near Oporto where I also have internet. Thing is I came back to Lisbon with my grandmother, which went further on to Setubal. She is old and has parkinson and is in Setubal alone (While she isn't helpless, I'd much rather be and help her out). Furthermore, she has invited me to go spend this weekend with her. She has been extremely helpful to me in my life, and it would be tremendously unfilial not to go spend this weekend with her. The catch is that her house (She now lives with my familly up north but needed to come here to the South to deal with some issues) here in the South doesn't have internet, thus most probably will not be able to post anything/much this weekend. This includes the game. Fortunately I have many relatives in the city where my grandmother is, so the only chance will be that after this phase is over I go to one of my cousin's places and check out the orders sent until the deadline, come back home after visit, use my laptop to write the write-up, then I eventually go to their place again when I have written the write-up and post it here. Still, this is a long shot, as probably I won't be able to proceed with the game until next monday. Provided the mods give me leeway for this to remain open throughout the week-end then the game will proceed as usual in monday/tuesday.
Due to possibility that I may be able to write and post the write-up before monday, the deadline still ends today, in a few hours.
Sorry, I honestly am not really into this storyline for some reason (personal flavor... I understand others are really enjoying the story, and it looks well done from where I sit!). I apologize but I've been distracted by things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
However, I am into the game for the sake of playing the game, so I'll try to do better. I thought I was going to be a replacement player for this one. Heh.
Pang Tong is the guy we have to find.
I think Sprig is Pang Tong.
I think FactionHeir is Pang Tong.Quote:
Final Tally:
Yaseikhaan (3) - ATPG, Joooray, atheotes
Joooray (2) - FH, DiY
atheotes (2) - Beskar, Sprig
FactionHeir (1) - Yaseikhaan
Getting slain that early means distancing tactic might be used. And I don't think, given the three way tie, that atheotes is Pang Tong because that means choosing to eliminate your partner. And Joooray could have voted for atheotes, and Joooray was risking a lot leaving his vote where it was, were he Pang Tong.
Also possible are the others, but let's go with the scheming-est explanation of them all.
I'm not sure, it could be just that FactionHeir is a victim of ill circumstance, perhaps he didn't want to get involved in a bandwagon, maybe cautious pro-town, or cautious mafia, but its all really uncertain.
Atheotes is highly unlikely to be mafia, but its still possible, but this path has a lot of WIFOM, so lets not go into there.
The previous round, with commentary and analysis.
Yes, you may safely skip reading the spoiler. That's showing my work.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Perhaps the scummiest vote all round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Khaan had two votes, and Beskar seems like he wants to get a bandwagon on atheotes, the guy who ends up capping a mafia. Not only seems like a nervous reaction, but the vote itself seems dead wrong to me. If atheotes is mafia he's driven a screwdriver into my brain.
My finger of suspicion lands squarely on Beskar, who I presently consider to be the most likely to be mafia given the previous round's activity.
After that, you might look to Subotan, who replaced White_Eyes and therefore I can't get a reading off of it. AVSM and Paulus both had the chance to spare Khaan and didn't, and Paulus voted for Beskar. Which was never recorded by the game host. Beskar is my top suspect at the moment, so I consider this a good vote. Personally, I'm not a fan of not voting. I'm so tempted to go with AVSM, but I think perhaps the reason Khaan got destroyed so soon was... maybe... White_Eyes not being there to spare him. If it isn't Beskar, it could be White_Eyes/Subotan.
Third place, I might pick AVSM for not voting, personal preference. However, that's almost a good thing considering he could have saved khaan. And I might be right regarding Beskar or Subotan. But maybe not AVSM.... I don't know. Yaseikhaan likes the tactic of voting his partner, he's done it quite a bit IIRC. I can't really pick my third suspect at this point, even though Death is yonder is driving me absolutely insane with his posts... they smell so bad but they don't mesh with his voting pattern. Stop being so scummy!
Sprig's vote on atheotes puts him in top contention, but he could have voted for joooray.
FOS:
1. Beskar
2. Subotan
Sorry then, I'll just stay more silent and be the usual attentive DiY popping in here and there when I'm needed only :no:Quote:
Please stop saying scummy things. I want to believe you're innocent. Stop stop stop.
Short, silent, terse.
Good enough? :wall:
Maybe. :quiet:
Maybe I'm wrong about Beskar, too. I dunno he gave me a good defense. But I'm not totally convinced.
I'll bump Subotan up to my top suspect.
FOS:
1. Subotan
My name looks like slang for the male member and the description doesn't help the case.
I think Jolt dislikes me.
I am probably going to die tonight anyway, I am Liu Ye, Inspector of the Han Army.
I won't say what ability I have. :wink:
It gets worse, I just wikipedia'd the name, my guys nickname is "Boning". Why oh why....
Dead giveaway....:laugh4: If I was Mafia....your kill order would have just been sent in:juggle2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I think Beskar is innocent. His role is pretty obscure. It suffices for now.
I didn't vote due to my inherent lurkiness. Also, I forgot. Also, I'm innocent. Farewell.
My guy is at least on wikipedia, even though it was very limited and spoke about how his courtsey name was "Boning".
It gets worse, he was part of the Kingdom of Wei.
Bad enough getting a name that sounds like a male member, a description that sounds like a male member, a nickname of a male member, and part of a male member kingdom.
Does it get worse?!?
AtPG gave his role out?
Edit: No, he existed.
Oh noes!Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
Jolt, where did you get the character portraits? I feel like I've seen them somewhere.
Wohoo ... one down, one to go. Let's do this! :2thumbsup:
I'm teh' back.
AVSM, the character portraits are from Romance of the Three Kingdoms 11. As are the picture stills of advisors talking and a random ruler (Which has an Imperial headwear, but bleh.) ordering a prisioner to be executed.
Night 3 is over. Stand-by for execution.
The Red Phoenix - Night 3
Apparently the death of a fellow officer the previous night had unsettled Cao Cao's advisors. As night engulfed the Heaven and each advisor retired to their tents, the patrols had doubled. But that did not thwart atheotes. He slipped out of his tent and went to investigate someone. He was caught mid-way by a patrol, but he quickly told the soldiers that he had been summoned by Cao Cao for a talk, thus he quickly disposed of the grunts. As he approached the tent of his target and began plotting on how to also remove the guards at the tent's doors, someone patted him on the back while he heard a dagger unsheathe. "Looking for someone..?" said the person. Turning to see who was with him, Jia Xu was extremely startled and taken aback for he had recognized who the person was. "You!?-" It was the last thing Jia Xu said, just before the man drove his dagger into Jia Xu's throat, and quickly vanished into the nearby tents.
https://i642.photobucket.com/albums/...316-Jia-Xu.jpg
Jia Xu, Palace Counsellor of Han has been assassinated.
Only one minute had elapsed before a patrol found the corpse and alerted the inner courtyards.
That assassination, almost foiled the plans of another person who, having misled some patrols which operated in the area he wanted to go to, was sighted by scores of soldiers from outside of the courtyard which had come with the alert of Jia Xu's death. As a consequence, the soldiers quickly concluded that the sighted man was Jia Xu's killer and soon enough, that group was thus alerting other guards to the man's presence. Fortunately for him, his quickly wit put him on flight, with only that score of soldiers after him. He entered into a tent where weapons were stored, grabbed a sword and made a big cut in the tent, allowing him to quickly escape through the gap. The other soldiers, weighed down by armor and weapons had significantly more difficulty passing through the gap. The man quickly slipped into another tent, and made a similar cut like the previous tent, only that he then hid behind some barrels, misleading the soldiers into believing the person had gone through the tent. Before long, the camp was swarming with soldiers for the second straight day and another advisor killed. Cao Cao was extremely bitterful and wailed again "Why Heaven do you take my arms thus!? Jia Xu had no equal to him!" Indeed Jia Xu was a man of gigantic intellect, and one of Cao Cao's greatest advisors. Cao Cao could not conform himself with losing such another valuable asset.
However, other advisors pointed out that contrary to Xiahou Dun, Jia Xu had not been murdered in his tent, but was up to no good himself, as he was close to other high officer's tents, where he was assassinated. Still Cao Cao payed no heed to that talk, as he knew Jia Xu was always loyal to his lords. Cao Cao then began thinking that Xu Shu's death had also been in vain as the killings also continued. "Phreaps most of the council had been infiltrated?" thought Cao Cao.
He sighed in regret and said to those around him. "Truly, the only one I trust in this world is none other than my Xu Chu."
After the body of Jia Xu properly put in a coffin and buried and the search for the killer ended in failure once again, Cao Cao retreated back to his tent in a sulky mood. The next day, Jia Xu would be sent to Xu Chang to be buried in a mausoleum. Cao Cao also memorialized the Imperial Throne to make him posthumous Marquis of Gozang, his birthplace, as recognition for his great ability and skill.
The next day the council of advisors reconvened once again, and Cao Cao did put it bluntly, "Our camp is filled with vile people and wicked men of little ability. Not only Cai Mao and Zhang Yun, Mao Jie and Xu Shu, but it appears someone else is still unsatisfied with my command. He is therefore a rebel to Imperial authority and must therefore be put to death. Last night as you all know, Jia Xu was murdered, and that means one of you is the culprit. Though difficult he may be to find and his arguments are surely disarming, do not forget that you are all the best minds of the age. You must find him. Now." Cao Cao was beginning to grow weary of saying this phrase "Present your arguments and let us find out who do you all think is the culprit behind Jia Xu's death."
The advisors began getting ready to exchange accusations once again, and phreaps find out who was the culprit of the murder.
Alive (10):
Death is yonder
Subotan
A Very Super Market
Beskar
Yaropolk
Joooray
Sprig
AskthePizzaguy
FactionHeir
Paulus Tertius
Executed (2):
Centurion1 - Mao Jie
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu
Assassinated (2):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun
atheotes - Jia Xu
Day 3 votes are due in 8 PM GMT / 3 PM EST, 18th of November.
Vote: Subotan
grr... thanks for taking me off the suspicious list. I was hoping to last one more night. bad for us it did not work out.
LOL I am amazed they killed you. I thought they would have killed me, and tried to scapegoat it on you.
not after everyone agreed i must be innocent for casting the decisive vote on one of the mafia...
i was hoping for the scenario you described... but unfortunately there was too much discussion during the night phase :wall:
Vote: Abstain
Will be away at camp until Friday 0500 GMT, terribly sorry for inconvenience caused. :shame:
:bow:
Vote: Factionheir
I think Yanseikhaan voted for him last round before his death to distance him.
I will go with Yaropolk.
Vote: FactionHeir
Yaropolk is in this game? :confused:
Hey... he trixxed me.
Edit: Yes, he replaced splitpersonality.
Vote: Paulus Tertius is Xun Yu. Former advisor to the traitor Yuan Shao. It pains me to see him betray everybody’s trust. For he recommended some of the great warriors here, even myself to Cao Cao. But he is ever misleading Cao Cao and is increasingly unsatisfied with Cao Cao's treatment of the Emperor, which is a terrible sacrilege.
It is clear that he has intentions other than to serve Cao Cao and beware his ability, 'The Power of Politics' for which he is able to slip his way out of trouble by switching someone’s vote. This means to catch this slippery fish we will need overwhelming accusation against him.
that is a significant accusation to make... how did you come upon this information?
Yes, indeed, how did come up with this, sprig?Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Until you elaborate a little more I'll Vote: Abstain.
Also, what is your case against Subotan, Atpg?
I thought it would be obvious due to the amount of infomation I provided. If you were not dead, I would have questioned your motivation to make me reveal. However, since ATPG pretty much revealed himself as an inspector I feel safe enough to reveal that I had a one-time investigation ability. This ability reveals the full role and ability of the target.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
Xun Yu was not the historical traitor. He should not be our primary target.
Yet 'historically' left alone, he would halt Cao Cao's rise of Power. Forget not who we are loyal to.
All I can do is present what I found out about him. My results indicate his guilt.
Not much of one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
The premise is, Yaseikhaan should not have died last round if the traitors were on the ball. Someone dropped the ball. I blame the inactive player, White_Eyes, who was replaced by Subotan.
However I have no objection to getting rid of a vote switcher. Yes, often times these are good roles, but I prefer that the loyal people here have full control over the vote.
Sprig, that almost sounds like... well maybe not a serial killer but perhaps a third party guilty person? We do not know that much about the game setup, and it is possible there was more than just two traitors we need to deal with.
I'm a lazy *******, so please if anyone would point out to me in the story that Jolt wrote anything which might hint of a case against anyone besides our two main traitors. If there is evidence in-game against this Xun Yu, I will change my vote. Until then, I'm going to be super lazy and stick with the candidate I have chosen, as it has served me so well this game already.
With my rude awakening to Conversion in Paulus’s Hired Swords. I am leaning more that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Well.... on further review, this accusation is too specific for me to just shrug off. If this Xun Yu turns out to be innocent, you're well aware that you're next, Sprig my friend.
unvote, vote: Paulus Tertius
Well like I said, I can only reveal what I know. He is obviously not PangTong (Young Phoenix?) So as AVSM points out he not the main threat. But he is a threat to Cao Cao, none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I am well aware of the risk, otherwise I would not have pointed it out.
Sounds good enough to me. True, he may not be our primary target, but still apparently a better choice than any random lynch could be. So send this traitor to be executed, I say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprig
Vote: Paulus Tertius.
Tally:
Paulus Tertius (3) - Sprig, ATPG, Joooray
Faction Heir (2) - Yaropolk, Beskar
Abstain (1) - DiY
Not Voting (4) - Subotan, A Very Super Market, Faction Heir, Paulus Tertius
AVSM, do not forget to vote this round or you'll be WoZJ'd.
Eh I have no idea why I am even being voted. Because a mafioso voted me? That doesn't exactly seem like a case to me considering a mafioso wouldn't vote their own.
I take it Sprig is claiming detective because he knows Paulus' role, so that seems a decent case.
vote: Paulus
Subotan is quite guilty. :yes:
Umm it is pretty good cover. You can't rule anything out.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
You should know that this doesn't affect my opinion that he's guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
You WIFOM'er you.
Vote: Paulus
Xun Yu may not be the traitor, we'll be tying up a loose end.
I can assure you I am not a guilty party to this and do not intend to be.
Yes, it is true that I am Xun Yu, and also he speaks the truth of my ability. However, I never had the intent of going mafia - even if I would have fulfilled the requirements.
Catch the historical traitor first. I do not intend to betray you, and certainly not now that Sprig has basically threw this out in the open. Spare me, and I will not be involved in any killings - and you will not need waste your time on me and go on to one of the real culprits. I beg you, spare me.
vote: abstain. I wish to take my time rather than run to conclusions.
Hmm...
Nevermind.
unvote, vote: Subotan
That means that you can go mafia if you wanted to. Thanks for sharing that with us :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulus Tertius
Probably I'm just a convenient scapegoat for the real culprit now.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
unvote, vote: FactionHeir
Day 3 is over. All votes after the deadline are invalid. Stand-by for execution.
Standing by....
Just got back, should be back to full status soon.
:bow:
Bolded section.Quote:
Yes, it is true that I am Xun Yu, and also he speaks the truth of my ability. However, I never had the intent of going mafia - even if I would have fulfilled the requirements.
:inquisitive:
Okay, one loose end tied up I suppose.Quote:
Spare me, and I will not be involved in any killings
:zzz:
Sorry guys, I'm away for the weekend, so I won't be able to vote on Saturday and Sunday. Hope that causes no mayor inconveniences. :sweatdrop: