I loved the write-ups, Secura. :beam:
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I loved the write-ups, Secura. :beam:
...... *Sigh* oh well.
I'm not going to post the Role PMs because there's a liklihood that I'd like to use them (albeit modified) in later games. However, the roles (and their abilities) were as follows:
SplitPersonality - Defense Attorney Mia Fey - Protection
Beskar - Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth - Investigation
Cultured Drizzt fan - Madame Elizé Da Silva - Night Kills, Vote Switching
Methos - Lorna Roberts, Hotel Receptionist
Centurion1 - Eric Ballaud, Hotel Security
A Very Super Market - Dr. Paul Afforme, Hotel Guest
Captain Blackadder - Gerard Duquesne, Hotel Bellboy
For my first game... well, I'm not amazingly optimistic about responses, as I felt that the town/lawyers were very, very lucky to win; I had foolishly stacked things against them.
I realised halfway through the game that a N-D-N-D-N structure heavily favoured a mafia victory; coupled with the vote tampering ability, it basically ensured you only had one window of opportunity to catch CDf. CDf actually requested to use the tampering ability in the second day phase that just passed, but it will only work if the votes are not unanimously against the target; with all five people voting against him, CDf's mafia boss couldn't switch votes, whereas this would've been possible had CDf convinced at least one person not to vote for him. I had planned for the ability to be like this from the start, but was unsure if I had stated as such in the Role PM, so had to remind him this morning via PM. Apologies, Drizzty. :<
The process of actually revealing CDf was down to luck in itself; Beskar and Split (the former knew the latter as he investigated on the first evening, unsure about the reverse though) had debated investigating Methos at first, but Beskar expressed interest in Centurion1. Split said that he felt suspicious also, and then Beskar moved onto CDf and sent orders for his investigation. This investigation would have failed had Beskar not suggested himself to Split for protection overnight.
I'd like to make further games, but I've got alot more planning to do in the future. I believe D-N-D-N-D will work better, both in terms of balance between the mafia and the town and in terms of adhering to the narrative of the Phoenix Wright games themselves. I want to write games that people are interested in and actively debate... it can be difficult to do just that in a seven-man game, and I was hoping that the narrative would drive things to that point.
I'm eager to see how you guys felt, both in terms of the narrative side and the game side of it.
Thank you for playing, at any rate. :3
Why so glum. CDF? You would have won the game if you targeted either AVSM, Centurion1 or Methos.
Also, if they didn't join my bandwagon, you would have won as well. In short, it was just plain luck we, the town, actually won.
The game balance was a big issue, as you already mentioned, Secura, but I think you learned any problems from that. As for the write-ups themselves, they worked very good.
and I would have gotten away with it too, if just one person had believed me. :tongue:
I know beskar, which makes my defeat all the more depressing.
Indeed, the rules stated that the game could only last 120 hours total. As happens in the video game series, all trials only last three days total; the Judge automatically calls a verdict should one not be reached through evidence and testimony at that time.
Had the time elapsed and I would've had to end the game, Madame Da Silva would have been declared guilty, as she was meant to be, and CDf would have won that way too.
Being honest, blame Centurion1 for your loss. In a message in Noblesse, he mentioned how you are always his partner and I was wondering about the both of you. Being perfectly honest, I suspected Centurion1 more than you, and Split shared the same feeling.
I decided to investigate you, the idea being "if it isn't CDF, I will say I investigated Centurion1 and lynch him". However, I got the results that you was indeed the one we needed to get rid off.
So ultimately, you can blame Centurion1 for a random comment else where for making me decide to investigate you opposed to him. :beam:
You'd fit right in with Phoenix Wright... much of his "early-trial game" is spent bluffing to prolong things to another day whereby he can investigate and get his information straight. Very much a case of saying anything to divert the spotlight away from the defendant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
This case was based upon the final trial of Justice For All (the second PW game), whereby Phoenix has to defend Matt Engarde, an actor charged with murdering a rival actor. It transpires that, while he did not murder the victim himself, he hired an mysterious assassin to do so, which in the game's timeline still counts as murder. Having set-up the assassin with evidence of the murder, Engarde is about to be declared Not Guilty, until the assassin states that should Engarde leave the courts, he will be killed. Brutally so. A choice of going to jail or being murdered...
...which is actually one of only two cases where the verdict is not called by the Judge, but the player themselves. I took this notion and made my own story out of it, setting it in a timeline just before Phoenix became an attorney and opting for Mia and Edgeworth as the opposing lawyers. I even included Franziska saving the day, so to speak, which is exactly what happens in the aforementioned trial.
heehee cdf share in my pain, share in my pain old buddy.
I'm curious why you considered investigating me? I don't recall having done anything to warrant any suspicion.
Because you was evidently lurking. Also, you tried to call out my investigation even though it matches the write-up. I also role-revealed and claimed I was attacked by the one and only CDF. Even then, you failed to even vote on time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
You could say hypothetically, the town only won because Secura was wanting activity out of the players. Otherwise, the game would have been lost due to you and AVSM. :no:
This is pretty much hitting the nail on the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
The only reason CDf's vote tampering ability would fail was if he (or his target, as it could be used at any time in a day phase to freak you guys out, but would only work once) was unanimously voted for by the rest of the players. I was actually trying to encourage the rest of you to vote (only Beskar, Split and CDf had done so), but if you had not, then the vote tampering would have succeeded and Beskar would have been lynched instead with two votes to one.
Which was essentially a mafia victory.
Gosh, I've got so much work to do to. :<
Activity? I didn't vote for CDF because I didn't believe you. But with Secura's talk about things being skewed for the mafia anyways, I went along with it.
I would like to thank Beskar for picking nicely and investigating me the first night he could. I would also like to thank him for asking me to protect him the night he was attacked, had neither of these events happen, the town would have certainly lost. I could not have done it, truly could not have done it without your help Beskar.
You too gumshoe :bow:
Sorry for the aggravation if you were upset by the events of the game CDF :bow:
EDIT:
This also marks another game, where I have played a female role, what's up with that? :P
spL1tp3r50naL1ty. Duh!Quote:
Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Beskar apparently thinks I am a little girl who plays with teacups all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Nuh-uh! Well. Only half of that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty
nah its ok, You guys did good. :tongue:
"I'll see if Gumshoe can turn up any information on someone I got an eye on. Don't want to end up with an insantity plea in the middle of a court case."Quote:
Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty
"Good news, there won't be any insanity plea's, as they are working on the defence."
Though, I also wonder if that comment is sarcasm, and you didn't want to be first-nighted? :tongue:
That part that is wrong, is that you don't play with teacups all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
Nah, I'm glad I was a known innocent right away by investigation, that made both of our jobs easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
heehee remember i thought you were a chick because you always get girl roles.Quote:
EDIT:
This also marks another game, where I have played a female role, what's up with that? :P
not that feminine of course. :wink:
I guessed you'd appreciate being Mia Fey, that's all. :P
Mia was one of my favorite characters, so I suppose I did :D
So why was I killed first just random or was there some other reason?