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Being unable to post after you're dead as a basic townie leads to games dying of inactivity. The alternative is to kill off all the talkative people and kill the town's discussion, and I don't like games like that. No offense NOTW'ers.
I cannot give an opinion on this game anymore, so please continue as if I wasn't even a cop to begin with. Don't dwell on me.
They do that?
So is that why you always get killed Night -1 in NOTW games?
I never have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
However, I usually get investigated N1 in any game, and that gets tiresome. I officially hate investigator roles. How ironic.
Exactly; if I'm still throwing my two cents in, there's more conversation, which can help stop people from winning just by playing things silently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I think you guys should see what Methos has to say for himself, anyway, before you jump the gun.
Not game related but Secura, I didn't protect anyone in your game as I wasn't in it, I simply observed because it was such an epic effort on your behalf (with interesting write ups and the whole ker-bang).
I would imagine their is only 1 mafia though 2 isn't unheard of if town have great roles, I think we do. Which might mean their are two mafia, in which case should the game continue, I wouldn't be highly surprised, though unless anything implicates it otherwise it would still make me look suspicious..... continues on side-rail of thought*
OH! It was SplitPersonality... I got your names confuzzled, apologies. Thank you for the critique, it took of time thinking of a good plot and stuff, but the game balance suffered as a result. Town won by sheer luck! Still, it was my first go, hoping the next will be better. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
Thermal's claim to be a tracker makes some sense, but does bear some further thought.Quote:
I would imagine their is only 1 mafia though 2 isn't unheard of if town have great roles, I think we do. Which might mean their are two mafia, in which case should the game continue, I wouldn't be highly surprised, though unless anything implicates it otherwise it would still make me look suspicious..... continues on side-rail of thought*
If there is only one mafia, and it's Methos, then it's game over, you guys win, which would be great.
If Thermal is actually scum, and his claim is designed to throw suspicion on someone else, well the two remaining townies can always take him out in the next day phase.
If there are two mafia, the second may avenge a Methos lynch by killing Thermal overnight; he's a prime target for role-claiming, but in dying he will have at least helped you guys take one of the scum down However, that would leave one mafia versus two town in the day phase; fifty-fifty chance of winning the game for town then, not so good.
And the worst case scenario would be if both Thermal and someone else are actually scum, whereby it's tantamount to mafia victory if you get this wrong.
Four possibilities at this point. I'd still wait to hear from Methos first; there's some votes on him, that's enough pressure, let's see his response.
Right now Methos is the biggest barrier we have, I know you can't see this, but should he manage to change your points of views whilst I'm not here I dread the consequence.
Just remember he doesn't want to be lynched so don't allow yourselves to be deceived easily, we need justifications for vote changes.
i think there are going to be one mafia.
i know for a fact there a few vanilla townies.
if tm is lying hes screwed.
Do not close your mind to the possibility that there may be a second mafia.
Constant vigilance.
either way.
there are a few paths that can occur
TM is lying
TM is telling the truth but Methos was a roleblocker or something
TM is telling the truth and Methos is Mafia.
if TM is lying then we know our scum if its not too late.
if Methos is mafia and there is another we are defintely closer.
if TM is just mistaken as to what methos's purposes were we have an issue
if we dont listen to TM then it could backfire and we could waste a key lynch.
For once I get an interesting role and someone goes and screws it up. No, I'm not mafia and I'd prefer not to say just yet, as I don't see the reason for it. I must ask TM though, why scan me and not one of the good players? I guess I should be thankful.
Methos - it's now or never. You won't get by with "hey guys give me another day to prove myself" in a 7 person mafia. We only have a few rounds total.
Pressure vote Methos to pony up with a real reason not to lynch him.
They have a point, Methos; you're going to have to reveal; there's five of you left, this lynch could change the game.
Think about it. :3
I'm a role blocker, but I was afraid to admit it since atpg was talking about releasing his results. I don't see how any of you would believe me after what he implied. Part of my goal is to locate the true mafia guy, who's name is Edgar. I have no idea who he is, except that his master (correct term?) recently died and left all her money to her cats.
You let me live and I'll role block whomever you want me to. BTW, how come TM only saw me? Was it because you were just watching me?
If I can, I'd like to say I was intentionally trying not to imply anything, and I ask that all living players disregard everything I have said since I died, because I do not want to be interpreted, let alone misinterpreted. I had to say I was leaving the game and I meant to be as neutral as possible in my wording.
This totally makes sense; considering that I was a butler from the TinTin comics, I can believe this claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
This 'Edgar' is the butler from the 1970 animated Disney film, The Aristocats. He is under the employ of Madame Bonfamille, who tells him that upon her death she will leave her estate to her four cats; Duchess, Toulouse, Marie and Berlioz. Thus Edgar goes about removing the cats from Madame's life so that he can be the sole benefactor of her will.
In this case, we can assume Madame died, and Edgar has gone a little nutty from not getting a penny of her estate... and thus he's going on a murderous rampage of the butlers.
I was a huge Disney fan in my youth. ¬_¬
Hmphh....so if I interpret ATPG's statement correctly...:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Unvote Methos I'd like to hear TM's rebuttal.
For now, I'm going to Vote: No Lynch.
Oddly, after my post admitting that I was in fact in Pizza's room, I got a PM from Yaro with this link again. At first I just ignored in, but I'm beginning to think its some sort of handshake. I realize he just removed his accusation against me, but I'm starting to think he is in fact the murderer Edgar! Why in the world would he pm me with just this odd link?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaropolk
Unvote/Vote: Yaropolk
I'm still happy to take the risk (though unhappy with the possible consequence :sweatdrop: ).
Methos, I am a tracker, so yes it was only you I could see, I targeted you because when looking on the player list and seeing the boisterous characters, you stuck out as a saw thumb as a org active player which has remained silent in this game, I got bad vibes, don't start the why would you pick me thing, I know your an experienced player, you were hardly going to make yourself stick out (I don't think).
Centurion points out that you could be a power role, but the likelihood of one target being targeted many times seems unlikely, though it is ATPG were talking about, who is a magnet in himself...the results told me you entered his room, either way that sounds rather shady, in my books. In addition, I don't think Subotan would have put too many power roles in, apparently there are some confirmed vanilla townies, I don't think town would have more roles than tracker and investigator, unless god forbid, there are 2 mafia.
Vote sticks, we need to find out your allegiance either way. Given the shroud of doubt around my results I know its not 100%, but its a solid lead this round.
You just lied, as anyone can tell I've been quiet in every game I've played in. I'm playing no differently then I normally do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
So you're saying that you're willing to kill a town-friendly power role just to check? You said it yourself, ATPG always gets targeted, hence the reason I went after him. I've already told you the mafia is, or at least who my PM implies it is. Besides, you know as well as I do that tonight the mafia are going to kill me anyway. I'm not the type of character they want alive, so why not kill my suspicious choice of Yaro?Quote:
Vote sticks, we need to find out your allegiance either way. Given the shroud of doubt around my results I know its not 100%, but its a solid lead this round.
You all play rather odd.
Let me get this straight, TM accuses me of being in Pizza's room and I agree to it. You all question as to why and I reply. I've given you all the answers you asked for and I not only state that TM is being truthful, but that he's a pro-townie, yet all of you ignore me. Why is that? What's the point in replying to anything if I'm basically ignored.
I get the impression the .org site is cliquish and if you're not in the "in" crowd, then you don't matter. How long do I have to play at the .org before I am talked to or listened to? At this point, I'm wondering why I even bother.
I know that my two cents probably don't count for anything, because... well, I'm dead, but honestly... I would point the finger at Yaropolk myself, and that is honestly where I would have voted had I survived to this phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
His last minute vote-change from no lynch onto me seemed a little scummy, like a means of getting rid of a townie early-on. Just my opinion, though.
Don't let things get you down; for what it is worth, I believe your claims to an extent, and that's better than not believing you at all. :3
*The dead pizzaguy rises and gives Methos a hug*
Sorry, sometimes in some games people aren't as talkative is all. Which sucks, but what can you do?
We wuv you Methos.
That's what happens when people who talk too much like Pizza and I get killed, unfortunately. Things can get a little quiet.
No kidding. And there's no Beskar in this game either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
Or Renata.
Hey I was trying to pull a BeskarQuote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
i still think we should trust tm.
my vote stays on methos.
Voting is now closed.
Just wait for me to write the write up.
After Askthepizzaguy's fatal battering, the butlers gathered in the parlour to unmask the crazed killer (For as everyone knows, the parlour is designed exactly for that kind of thing). The butlers had barely sat down into their lounge chairs when they heard Thermal Mercury shout:
"It's him! Methos! I followed him last night, and he went up to Askthepizzaguy's hotel room! Coincidence? I think NOT!"
The other butlers all snapped their heads around in tandem to glare at Methos.
"Pfft. I didn't kill him. I went up to his bedroom with some brandy to get him drunk, so he wouldn't go out and kill someone, as I thought he was the psychopath. I did just that, and left an hour later, with all his brains still in his head, mind you. Besides, how can you just trust Thermal Mercury's word that he followed me? He could be trying to trick you! Or maybe it's Yaropolk; shifty guy Yaropolk, look at that beard, he's obviously nuts. Ah, you all hate me, you've hated me since the beginning, you clique."
And so on. His silver tongue, although respected for the amount of accusations it could pump out, was not enough to save him. When the clock struck 10:45, Methos had a plurality of votes. Centurion1 stood up, and pulled a shiny, metal revolver out of his pocket.
"I picked this up off Askthepizaguy's body. I figured that he wouldn't need it anymore so..."
And with that, he squinted, put his left leg behind his right, and extended his arm, towards Methos, who was frozen in his seat. Centurion then said
"They say that revenge is a dish best served cold. Well, dinner is served."
And with that, he pulled the trigger, and Methos was gone.
Once the smoke had cleared, the butlers gathered around the huge corpse of Methos to find that:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The gathered breathed a sigh of relief. But by no means was this end of the World Butler Convention, or of the killings that took place within. You could even say that this false illusion of security was...a red herring.
EDIT: Night will end in 12 hours-ish, if all those with night actions send me theirs soon, but it's too late for me to write another write up. Otherwise, night will end in 23 hours.
EDIT2: I only picked Centurion1 to kill Methos as he was the only one who had gone unmentioned in the write up. Don't read anything into it.
An interesting development. Perhaps the two evil butlers (Lurch and Edgar) are not allied with one another, a la Methos' An Unlikely Pair.
After the night phase, you can bet that we'll be down to one mafia and two town. It's close, but you can win it townies.
Bonne chance.
How was the write up? I was a bit unsure as to Methos' lynch scene, as I couldn't think of anything to match death by brandy or corkscrew, so I just had him shot. :shrug:
Oh, I enjoyed it; it was short, yet descriptive and to-the-point. It also has a tinge of Beskar's barbed jibes about it, like when Renata stated in Noblesse Oblige that nobody really contacted her, so Beskar posted in her final writeup that she was sat staring at her phonebook all day wondering why nobody called. Hahaha, very good job again, Subotan.
It has raised many questions, though. I still get the feeling that Edgar is the second mafia, and that a town victory is teetering in the balance even now. Keen to see how the remaining town cope and who is next to die.
Replying as if the result that you are mafia wasn't published
I'll repeat, I looked on the list of players, your name, yes YOUR name stuck out, it sounds stupid, but I just had a really strong vibe it was you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
You weren't confirmed as town friendly, not by a long stretch, given that you are easily as likely a killer as a good guy, then yes it is worth the risk, if I was to pass up on the opportunity when you ended up being mafia I never could have redeemed myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
Ok, you say my claim is truthful and that I'm a pro-townie, whilst agreeing to be in ATPG's room, why would that dissuade us from voting against you? I wasn't ignoring you, from what posts you did type I considered each carefully, but nothing could weave you out of a situation that looked pretty shady to say the least. Are you saying that should we find a good target we should ignore it? That, especially in a mini-mafia is not a good idea...Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
I'm not sure if you stand by this view or if it was an attempt to withdraw votes, if it was it was a dirty tactic, if not then, well I agree the games at the org are swayed easily, but each person is entitled to their own vote and their own point of view. I read your posts because I know they will be good, but that doesn't make you lynch immune.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
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On another note, thank God for that! :balloon2:
god it feels god to be right.
i loved the write up because i was a total BA.
and im thinking yaro next.
*cyber five TM*
You have to be 100% certain in the next day phase; it's going to be two town, one mafia, 50% chance of success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
If you get it wrong, you're going home in a box.
well i guess we see what tm finds out dont we.
but im still thinking yaro after his fail of the first phase hes been lying low.
If it makes you feel any better, I always wait until N2 to investigate you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I'd like to take this chance to defend mysel. I voted for you well in advance of the time limit, about 3 hours to be precise. You had plenty of time to save yourself, but you didn't for the same reason as why my vote wasnt scummy - you weren't supposed to be in the lead and be lynched. As for Menthos, he was just trying to dump guilt off on someone else before he got lynched, I did not PM him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
I just checked to be certain, seems that you posted that a good two hours before the write-up, so I did have time for a rebuttal, if I hadn't been shopping for clothes in town, hehe. However, there was no way I could have saved myself anyway; what would I have done? There were more votes for no lynch than on me and I still died! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Yaropolk
I can buy that, I guess; mafia's gotta say what he's gotta say.Quote:
As for Methos, he was just trying to dump guilt off on someone else before he got lynched, I did not PM him.
:curtain:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
Tut tut, at least I know not to take your tantrums seriously in the future. :rolleyes: :smartass2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
What's worse, is that in order to sell it I had to post in the d20 thread too. I felt bad doing it, but I was hoping it would help sway you all. I'm curious, are you all that indifferent, or was it too obvious, or was just nobody online?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
I was going to comment, but I felt it would be inappropriate to do as the game host. Good to see that you were trollin' though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
And I felt that my comments carried little weight because I'm totally dead. :P
It's not an uncommon reaction when the chips are down to react emotionally. Although this is the first we'd seen it from you, it wasn't that different from the norm when it happens here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
Had I been online before the write up going up, I seriously would have been sceptical of your alignment, but by then you already had to many votes anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
You know that better than most, Switzerland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
?Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
Where did that come from? :inquisitive:
I was referring to my breakdown in TYW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Ah, ok. Just checking, was honestly confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
ah subotans break donw of the ages. clever trick or is he really that infuriating.
i for one didnt believe it and if it was true it would have been rather ridiculous.
Well I don't know. I honestly was putting a lot of pressure on him. I was wrenching the whole "he attacked me first" to ludicrous extremes, all for selfish reasons. I was getting pity help from several nations, and major help from my allies. Then I negotiated a plan where France would get attacked by 3 nations, financially backed by 7 or more, and then was in negotiations for Netherlands and Saxony to join in and was getting mercenaries from players left and right. Financially, diplomatically, militarily, France was getting pounced on merely for exercising their wish to go to war over a dispute with Switzerland, and I was rather merciless with the pressure. I made absolutely sure (I thought) that France had no friends, and if they did, I had many many more. Then I hid my actual financial status, which was rich due to all those gifts, and still claimed to be too poor to end the war without massive reparations and land as well. Not all of that was undeserved, mind you, but instead of an "eye for an eye", I was absolutely going for the throat, and pretending to be morally decent all at the same time. I even got help from both the Ottomans and the Holy Roman Empire, who were at war with each other, and I was spying on both of them for each other respectively. I wasn't even being KIND to my allies.
Don't cry for me, I'm absolutely merciless. But I will still try to guilt trip you even so. I'm just very happy that Subotan and I see that it's all in-game and meant to be in good fun. Isn't it more satisfying to defeat someone who's giving you the best evil that he can be?
lol id be mad if i didnt end up turning on you with britian with a massive army ready to blitz your northern border the next turn.
and i mean a massive army hidden in a fort.
It was. I actually cracked temporarily, and not just due to ATPG's pressure, but the fact that everyone was believing him. Particularly over the "Omg France is a bully for wanting to create a Kingdom of Umbria", which was from a third party view a generous offer once it had been watered down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
I KNEW IT! I KNEW KNEW KNEW KNEW IT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I eventually did calm down, and realised that it was all in jest, yes. :bow:Quote:
Don't cry for me, I'm absolutely merciless. But I will still try to guilt trip you even so. I'm just very happy that Subotan and I see that it's all in-game and meant to be in good fun. Isn't it more satisfying to defeat someone who's giving you the best evil that he can be?
When the butlers woke up the next morning, they padded downstairs in their pyjamas and slippers to the dining hall to identify the latest victim, as well as have a tasty breakfast. Thermal Mercury was down first, and whilst anxiously waiting for the others, he slopped some porridge into a fine china bowl and started to munch his breakfast (Yes, you can munch porridge, if you're a noisy eater). Then, Double A entered the dining room, who upon seeing the breakfast table, immediately piled his plate high with a meat feast. Centurion1 was next, and he was content just to have some fruit salad and orange juice. Then, Yaropolk strode into the room. He had a delicious croissant.
What? You can't expect fantastical death scenes all the time, especially when no-one was killed during the night.
The butlers sighed when they realised that they were all alive, for at least another day. However, the threat of "Edgar" remained, and so it was necessary to continue the discussion, and eventually dispatch the last threat to the group.
Day ends at 22:30 GMT.
Wow, the remaining mafia is playing it very close... thus far we've had Day 1 (Secura 'lynched'), Night 1 (Pizza killed), Day 2 (Methos lynched) and Night 2 (no kill).
That's four phases total... seven-man games usually have five, six at the very most. The next phase will be night, and it will probably be the last phase due to the 120 hour limitations of mini-games.
In short, if you don't catch the mafia out during this Day Phase, it's game over.
I don't think anyone is going to enforce the 120 hour rule, especially when we're this close to finishing. That rule is more of a guidline for potential players.
Bah, you ruined my suspense! D:
There is progress, but it is horribly slow, I would urge everyone to choose no lynch this round.
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Wait, what am i talking about, ignore that
Hmmm,
vote: double a
Hey, you're not Beefy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
My paranoia is telling me that centurion is jumped on me at the same time is methos, whatever that's worth. However I'll go with TM's suspicion and vote: double a. If I split up the vote, it will let the mafia pick and choose the lynch target.
unvote
vote: centurion
You might be right Yaropolk, but with no leads It seems stupid to bandwagon someone, I will be here to change my vote at the last second if need be. I am going to tie it up.
um no i was the most ardent defender of tm and i voted for methos that ENTIRE phase.Quote:
My paranoia is telling me that centurion is jumped on me at the same time is methos, whatever that's worth. However I'll go with TM's suspicion and vote: double a. If I split up the vote, it will let the mafia pick and choose the lynch target.
tm your vote is looking rather weird as a result.
Vote: yaropolk
Yaropolk claimed to be a doctor, I tracked him, he went to my room, there were no deaths, that makes me trust him a lot more...Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
p.s : He didn't want me to publicize this, but at this point in the game it is very relevant, by the time mafia killed him and me they would have lost, I would assume...lol... (unless its all a farce and he told subotan to say a certain thing to me? )
well how am i supposed to know that.
unvote ; vote: double a
he has been rather quiet this game.
i tihnk if tm is correct (and i dont see why he would lie in any case it matters not who gets lynched) we have our mafia.
You weren't :bow: I decided to say whilst it was still helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
if tm isnt lying and i see no reaosn why he should be and i dont think subotan would break the game by letting yaro go to the room and not do anything i believe we have our scum.
Yeah you're right, I have been rather quiet this game. The better my role the more involved I am. Usually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
Day ends in one hour.
What's the tally?
you are up by two.
Well, given that when I die the game's over, I'm gonna go ahead and vote: myself in spite of everyone else.
Double A - 2: Yaropolk, Centurion1Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Centurion1 - 2: Thermal Mercury, Double A
Eh whatever, Cent's usually guilty anyway.
unvote, vote: Cent
Curiouser and curiouser...
I thought it might turn out like this, I will be watching this game very closely until the round ends.... :sweatdrop:
um i would recommend changing your vote TM.
im leaving the thread to go the backroom ill check back later.
I trust you both equally, so this seems fair to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1