Quick update: I'll most likely be back and firing on all cylinders again this weekend.
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Quick update: I'll most likely be back and firing on all cylinders again this weekend.
How do I go about accepting someone as a vassal and giving him a province? Can we make House threads? Or is there another plan?
Hello everyone. Sorry I've been gone. The Org stopped logging me in automatically and I long since stopped using the email account my password was last sent to. Finally got it and am changing the pw to something I'll remember (and the email to something I still use).
Since Henry's dead for being inactive and the hotseats I was in have new players at least I don't need to worry about catching up on anything. :clown:
Welcome back Zim!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
All those things can be done at your discretion. House Threads should be made by the House Leaders, as that lets the Leaders edit the threads. Accepting vassals can be done in any way that is satisfying to both parties, so long as it is announced in public. Same with giving provinces.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
Good to have you back, Zim! I'll add you to the queue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
What happens to the Duchy of Swabia?
I'm assuming that depends on the Kaiser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
I'll take a look at things once I get access to the save this weekend. For now, we'll operate under the assumption that the Kaiser is exercising executive power and running the Duchy himself until things get sorted out.
hey what's the rule on adoptions? I couldn't find anything in the rules about it..
There are no rules, because it is entirely up to the discretion of the player.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
Got it, so I can accept him if I want but I have to pay his upkeep. Presumably if another human joins the game this guy would be a potential avatar?
I'll take him please.
Indeed, that is all correct.
Off on vacation for the next five days, then i'm back for good.
I'm back!
:charge:
Welcome back Zim!
Thanks. ~:cheers:
I'm available for either of the new adoptions if noone ahead of me takes them.
Welcome back, Zim. Speaking of which, you can have your choice of Helmut or Jens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
They're both still available? I'll go with Helmut then.
I'm sorry for going AWOL for a while - school and all that. I'll come back on sunday again.
The next turn will begin tomorrow. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!
The change is not automatic, it requires to tell me in public or private. And keep in mind Herr Becker does not have his own source of income.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
Ok - so do I keep paying it until he gets a province? Or can I elect to have him pay it and go into debt, even without an income?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
You can force him to go into debt.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
I'd like to do that please - rather him than me! Can we make it retroactive to the beginning of this turn? I just assumed that he would automatically start paying his own upkeep as soon as he became human-controlled...
Since this is the first time this issue has come up, I'll allow it. But from now on, those who do not make the change will live with the consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
Guys, I must say I'm struggling to maintain interest in the game. It's a great concept, and the first few weeks were really great. But now we've gone down to 2 effective players and there's no intrigue. What do you say to starting over and starting off with a fully fledged Diet session, with offices for election etc?
It looks as though we are three, plus Cecil, now that Zim has rejoined.
I don't mind starting again now I've had a practice run at this kind of game. Also happy to continue if others pipe up and say they want to..
I'm still here. Just didn't need to take the last save with Cecil moving Helmet right where I would have.
I'm game for anything, although I'd hate to see the first Duchy of Flanders in all of these games be retconned by a restart. ~;)
Actually, we're technically 4 as I re-emerged from inactivity yesterday, as I promised to do. However, my re-emergence was kind of under the radar, as it was through PM.
Just seeing the debt I've fallen into during my absence, I feel inclined to support a restart. :sweatdrop:
This is an important question, and the fact that so many have commented so quickly suggests that a restart could do some good. Give me some time to think about how to do this. I'll present a plan, then we can put it to a vote. I like the idea of having an elected office, but as the traditional chancellor no longer makes I'll have to think about what offices we could have. Feel free to offer suggestions, I'll give anything due consideration.
If we are going to start again, is there any interest in doing a late era game instead?
I'd very much prefer not to do a complete restart. I think we can get by without something so extreme. I'm still thinking about changing the scenario, although I haven't come to a decision yet. I have got some ideas for new offices though, stolen rather shamelessly from Crusader Kings. Tell me what you think, particularly if these are roles you think would be fun to assume.
Marshal:
Term: Self-nominated and elected every normal Diet Session.
Powers:
(1) Sole control over the Reich's mercenaries.
(2) Can recruit and disband mercenary regiments in any army, can move mercenary regiments to and from armies or assign to/remove from an Elector
(3) Recruitment and upkeep are paid for by a pool of funds which is sustained by an income tax on all electors automatically paid each turn.
Penalties:
(1) If the pool runs out, mercenaries are paid for out of the Marshal's treasury.
(2) The Kaiser sets the 'Mercenary Tax' rate for the pool.
Chancellor:
Term: Appointed by the Kaiser each Diet Session.
Powers: Can move Diplomats and conduct diplomacy, just as the Kaiser can.
Spymaster:
Term: Self-nominated and elected every normal Diet Session.
Powers: Sole control over all spies and assassins, can recruit them in any settlement with the owner's permission.
Penalties: Pays for all spies and assassins out of pocket.
Steward:
Term: Appointed by the Kaiser, serves at his pleasure.
Powers:
(1) His settlement limit, minus his settlements, is added to the Kaiser's.
(2) Sets tax rates for the Kaiser's settements when in the Kaiser's territory.
Can I suggest something?
I had an idea for a EB Romani campaign where players would create a character for themselves. In-game characters would be just pawns in the hands of the players. This means that if player is appointed to lead an army that is on the other side of the empire he doesn't have to travel several turns before he can actually control it.
However, this (player made up characters being above the in-game characters) can't be used with most factions in M2TW.
Why not elect the next Kaiser?
Maybe I'm just dumber than most, but could you explain this idea a little further? (Btw, when/if you start this game, you can count me in. :yes:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
All right, I've made a decision. We will have a reset, in the form of the time-skip. I'm going to be playing ahead for about ten turns or so, and when we resume the Reich will be a very different situation, including some rules changes.
That doesn't mean you all will have nothing to do though! Each turn there will be a written update on events to keep you appraised, and along the way each of you will receive one or more PMs giving you a choice to make that will influence the state of the Reich upon the resumption of normal play. The end result will be a more functional Reich, as well as some storytelling hooks to make things especially interesting.
I'm extremely grateful that so many chimed in on the 29th to say that you were still interested in playing. I can promise you that when normal play resumes you'll quite a bit of intrigue as you all struggle on how to begin to recover what will be lost.
It sounds like you have your own vision for a game. Like The Celtic Viking I'd be happy to join it, but based just on what I've heard I think both of our visions would be best served in their own games. I'd be happy to discuss it in another thread though, as I'm always interested in new ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
The idea I had was something like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil XIX
Players will play as the senators in the Roman Senate. They make decisions and elect people to offices just like in previous games but this time they don't play as in-game characters(generals, agents). Players are free to create their own character.
Generals and agents can be controlled by any player with the proper authority. For example Consul can move every army whether they are general led or not.
This does not take away the chance for a player to lead army like in previous games. They just need the Senate to elect them to lead it. Also, this means that players can take control over armies that are otherwise too far.
For example: Senate elects Player A to control 3rd Legion that is in Egypt. In previous games you needed ships to carry your avatar to Egypt but in this time you can take control over that Legion right after the Senate session ends.
Anyway, I hope this explains a little bit better what I had in mind. :embarassed:
And I'm not starting anything in the next few months.
So, is this game dead or not?
It's live and we're working through event 2, mostly by PM to and from Cecil at the moment..
Indeed, it's as phonics monkey said. Unfortunately next week is finals week, so I'm not working through things as fast as I would under normal circumstances. I am still working though, and things will start going much quicker starting on Thursday.
Woohoo! I'm Kaiser!
Just an FYI, today I finished my semester. I've now got enough free time that things will be proceeding at a much faster pace.
Nice to see Helmut had a role in the assault. :beam:
Another season passed.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Merry Christmas indeed!
Merry Christmas!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun
Interesting concept.
Although you lose the visual bond with the ingame character, you gain a lot more freedom for RP.
You can ofcourse, always transport the general with console command after a wait time agreed in advance in the rules if ppl dont want to step of using actual ingame chars
Anyway, I've been away for several years.
Now, single again, living with parents again = huge amount of game time.
I'm not so into the HRE, so I'm skipping the current ongoing on.
If you go through with any other, i'm game.
(PS Ibn, I still have some of the rules I proposed for the earlier romani RP we had going on for a while here. Let me know if u want to glance at them.)
I'm trying to put together some rules for a game that combines MP battles, roleplaying, more than one faction, political fights in the councils, simple map etc...
It will be similar to the EB MP campaign idea I posted in my blog.
Just FYI, I've come down with a cold so the next update will be delayed a bit.
Short delay. :beam:
All right, soon it'll be the tenth turn since the Time of Troubles began, and after more than a month at that. The Time of Troubles will end soon, and the next Diet Session will begin on Friday at 7:00PM GMT. Tomorrow I'll post the save we'll be starting with, as well as an updated version of the rules with the new offices I introduced earlier. Please use that time to reaclimate yourself with things.
I'll also be spending the week before friday on a new recruitment drive. Feel free to contact people you know on your own initiative to get them into the game as well.
Looking forward to the restart.
Hi Cecil - I took the liberty of advertising this game over at the TWC where I've been trying to drum up new Throne Roomies.
Hope you don't mind - maybe it will shake out a new player or two..
Not at all. I'm not too familar with TWC, so I appreciate it.
you know what, this looks really awesome!
I wanna play!
Welcome Nightbringer. If I recall there is a character still immediately available so that should mean a quick entry into the game, although Cecil (the GM) will be able to clarify that.
Welcome Nightbringer. Cecil PM'ed me there's a new character available. I would have played as him but I fell, resulting in a complex fraction in my left arm, which means I cannot participate. I do enjoy reading your posts, though. I'm happy this game lasted longer than VI...
We've spoken before, but welcome Nightbringer. I can confirm here that he will indeed take Jens Herden.
:laugh4: That's what I get for changing profile settings late at night. Changed my user name instead of user title. I guess for 21 days I'll be "Becker". Might as well make Zim my user title for the duration....maybe it will alleviate some confusion. :clown:
Just don't die before then. :laugh4:
I'll do my best, although I recall I tend to have bad luck with avatars in these games, with the trademark move of handily winning the battle only to have the general die charging some peasants from a flank or something. :clown:
On an unrelated note it's nice to see our kaiser back, and remaining true to form. Apparently ten years of illness have not changed him a bit.
Isn't it Helmut anyway? :clown:
Probably but whenever I see it I think "Helmet". :clown:
Heh, thanks. There's a very good chance that I'll actually be doing my undergraduate thesis on the real-life version of the Emperor next year, so I may as well enjoy him while I can. :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmet Becker
(Proof that the .Org has changed my life: I'm most likely going to write the single-most important paper of my life next year for a character I initially RP'd for a few months in 2007. Crazy world, eh?)
AwesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
You've got me beat GH. I've written papers partly due the Org but not a graduate thesis.
I have met some of my closest friends here, at least one of whom may have influenced my career choice. :yes:
And I thought who was this unknown moderator! Someone I had never heard of..
Anyway, wear your helmet well Becker. ~;)
I wish I could have time to join this. Unfortunately I'm planning hosting games in Gameroom and Campus Martius. ~:(
The truly disappointing thing is that Helmut doesn't have a helmet on in his avatar pic. Ah well, C'est la vie...
If you find yourself with more time in the future you're welcome to join us. :yes:
So I just checked the save and Cecil wasn't kidding when he said we'd come back to a more interesting situation :clown:
Of course I will join!
I have been checking the threads always when it says that there are new posts in them. ~;)
Only one thing to vote on? It's interesting how much more is in the hands of the individual players in this rule set. If I recall back in KoTR you'd often have a a ton to vote on. Even if not too much else was going on then just because capturing any settlement required an edict.
And of coursewe haven't gone on long enough to have much to disagree on. Actually, there's already some obvious tension. It just hasn't come to light yet. I'm curious how things will look during the next Diet. :yes:
That's a fantastic story, GH. It's amazing how King of the Romans can still bring such vivid memories to mind after all these years.
While waiting for Ibn to create something new and exciting, I'm considering joining this one, as soon as I find my game cd's :)
What are the current available avs?
Right now there are no avatars available. However, it is likely that one or two will open by the end of the next diet session. In the meantime, you are welcome to participate in the discussion as your own character either independently or as part of one of the four Duchies: Austria, Bavaria, Bohemia or Holland.
Hi all, so am I correct that we are waiting for the Third diet session before doing any more turns, and that the diet session has not yet started? Or is the third diet session just the posts in the Imperial Diet/ Rules thread.
@Cecil (your messages are maxed out)
Do you think you could tell me Jens Herden's age, traits, and stats, or give me a way to view them.
I don't want to create the character or post anything as him before I have seen those because it will bother me to no end if they don't fit together to some degree.
Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I just don't want to do anything that will screw up my options in the future (roleplay wise)
hi NB, sorry I didn't answer your pm yet
yes the next turn will take place once the diet session is over. you're right in that the diet session is the posts in the diet thread as well as any polls that come out of it. you should vote in the poll too.
you should be able to access the save that Cecil posted in the saves and turn by turn thread to take a look at your character. you'll just need to install the mod first and cecil should have sent you the hotseat pw - let me know if he didn't and I'll send it by pm
No problem Nightbringer. The way it works is that every ten turns we "pause" the game to have three days of discussion in the Diet then two days of voting. The Third Diet Session has indeed been the posts in the Diet/Rules Thread, a seperate thread is started only for the voting since we need new polls each time. Here's a pic of Jens Herden for you, and as phonicsmonkey says you can also access the save.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The password is "Reich", it's only there so players can't access other factions. In addition, please download this. This contains three files that need to be overwritten into landstoconquer\data. They serve to revert the HRE back to a normal family tree, and also add some names from other factions.
No worries phonicsmonkey, that was only for the Civil War. Now it's strictly first-come-first-served.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonicsmonkey
Okay, I think just one more question.
What is mine? I know I have no home city, but I am in Nuremberg right now with a large army and Helmut, is that army mine to control, are any other troops mine to control? Or do I just work out which of Phonics' troops I get to control, in which case, could you please pm me phonics and tell me what I am controlling, if anything.
Perhaps this could interest you: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...EB-MP-campaignQuote:
Originally Posted by mini
Though, I will not start it before March-April.
Hello again guys. Glad to join in again.
One thing though. Why wasn't Agnes married to Andreas Hummel, as per the Kaiser's agreement with me?