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Technically, word problems are supposed to be relating the math to the real world and most of my fellow students will agree that word problems are the most challenging/frustrating.
Not just technically - in every way. 2 + 2 means two apples and two apples, making that clear is vital.
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HoreTore
I'm hoping to sell my car by friday.....won't get a new one either....
But shouldn't you make enough money with a four year education, performing a vital service to society, to drive a middle-price car like a bmw?
It was a joke,,,,,come down marxist
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Not just technically - in every way. 2 + 2 means two apples and two apples, making that clear is vital.
Well, when the situation they give you isn't realistic, then it loses it's purpose. Then again, I have only come across few books with questions that were not realistic.
EDIT: Again, my point though is that younger students are less receptive to the word problems then any other in my experience.
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How many of those attending school in the 50's speak a second language?
When I was in High School my Spanish II teacher sat on his computer all class period long while the rest of the class messed around and talked. Some days he didn't even bother to hand out assignments, or the assignment was watching The Goonies and taking notes on the movie. I was pissed, because I really wanted to learn Spanish. Most of the other kids loved it.
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Technically, word problems are supposed to be relating the math to the real world and most of my fellow students will agree that word problems are the most challenging/frustrating.
I remember a lot of students complaining about word problems in my math classes too. In my opinion, this is part of the problem, US students aren't challenged enough, so they get so used to things being easy that when something is challenging they back down and don't want to use their brains to figure it out.
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I remember a lot of students complaining about word problems in my math classes too. In my opinion, this is part of the problem, US students aren't challenged enough, so they get so used to things being easy that when something is challenging they back down and don't want to use their brains to figure it out.
But parents will get angry when their kids are not getting B's and A's.
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Technically, word problems are supposed to be relating the math to the real world and most of my fellow students will agree that word problems are the most challenging/frustrating.
What are these mythical challenging word problems you speak of? As opposed to what other problems?
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What are these mythical challenging word problems you speak of? As opposed to what other problems?
Students don't like not having the data and the function right in front of them. At least none of my fellow high school students liked that. When you tell them this is a compound interest function, they want every question to start with them giving you the function right off the bat and then asking you to plug the number they give you into the one variable the function has. Heaven forbid you give them a word problem that says, "You have 1000 dollars in the bank, what is the difference in the account between the interest gained at 9% after 5 years and 4.5% after 10 years?" HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO WORK WITH THIS?!!?
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So to sum up once in a single question the problem difficulty exceeds that of primary school, you've lost them? (Once you've broken down the problem to its component problems you get to something a primary school kid can work out.)
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So to sum up once in a single question the problem difficulty exceeds that of primary school, you've lost them? (Once you've broken down the problem to its component problems you get to something a primary school kid can work out.)
Only the stupid and the lazy. But from my experiences in high school, that seems to be a good portion of the students. Like I said before, the school system isn't completely bad. But word problems like the one I just made up are really complained about as if they are the most terrible thing ever. Much less so in the final years of high school though.
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It was a joke,,,,,come down marxist
Of course I knew that Strike, but it raised an interesting question ~;)
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EDIT: Again, my point though is that younger students are less receptive to the word problems then any other in my experience.
....And that is the reason why the focus should be on word problems ~;)
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....And that is the reason why the focus should be on word problems ~;)
I agree completely. But parents wouldn't go for it.
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I agree completely. But parents wouldn't go for it.
Parents are ignorant, they have no business meddling with this. ~;)
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Parents are ignorant, they have no business meddling with this. ~;)
Exactly! Now if only we could reform the American school system so it could be like that. Sigh...if only. :D