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I may have to kill him one day
Uhhh.... if the meat contains a large quantity of Sodium Nitrite it's been processed. That's everything from Hamburger and Steaks you buy at the Grocery Store to McDonald's Meat Slurries.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
Oh come one Louis, you know the history here as well as anyone. It's not kosher that's thrown in to justify a halal-ban, it's halal that's thrown in to justify a kosher ban. The anti-kosher sentiment is as old as european jew-hate, but because of WW2 a ban on kosher alone has as much chance as a snowball in hell(fortunately).Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
The fact of the matter is that fur farms remains as institutional torture of animals, yet "conservative free market animal rights activists"(yeah right) whines about kosher and halal. I'll say it again, a halal slaughtered cow in Muslimistan has lived a life in paradise compared to a "humanly slaughtered" cow in the west's industrial agriculture scheme.
True animal rights activists are of course against halal and kosher slaughter as well, but they're caught in the middle in this case, as they're against just about everything concerning animals... And let's have a closer look at those activists, shall we? They have devoted their life to fight for animals, I'd say they're pretty knowledgeable about what practices are the worst. It's also quite logical that they would be most strongly opposed to the worst practices, and will resort to drastic actions against them. Off the top of my head, I can remember plenty of actions against fur shops, fur farms, whaling and industrial farms. I can't seem to remember any actions committed against a kosher/halal slaughterhouse. And don't try the "oh they're scared to be labeled racists"-defense, I'm pretty sure loony activists don't give a crap about that.
I only have 2,5 years of near-constant bitching and whining about it from my farmer ex-girlfriend, no linkys... But if you want to find some yourself, Spain would probably be the best place to start, most of her bitching was about them....Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Oh, come on now, HoreTore. Anti-Islamism is the current focus of the European hardright, not antisemitism. Apart from some fringe groups, it's all about Muslims Muslims Muslims nowadays. Do you not read the interweb's underbelly, such as cult war games fora? Kosher slaughter is the collateral damage here.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Although, as I tried to show in my previous post, this is really about neither halal nor kosher food. This is about finding an electoral majority to impose stricter animal rights, including humane slaughter.
EDIT: Forget what I said earlier, let me be more clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai Waki
I understand that almost all the meat you can buy contains some sort of chemical treatment or processing but that doesn't mean that people are addicted to it. The chemicals that are put in there help the meat last longer, helps it ship long distances and is what makes the meat cheap in the first place. All cheap meat will have these processing methods on them because that is how you get cheap meat.
However, you can give a natural, grass fed (idk what they eat actually) steer, T-bone steak that is 100% natural, no processing and people will enjoy much more than the processed food. The problem is that it is more expensive and people enjoy having more money in their pocket when they eat then having the superior taste. It's not an issue of being addicted to the chemicals they put in, its an issue of wanting to keep as much money as possible, which is how most people are in every financial situation/transaction.
I don't trust the sincerity of anyone who calls themselves an animal rights activist who has time for other things than firebombing fur shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
And yet meat products are more expensive than they've ever been... funny that, huh? Drive all the lifelong Ranchers out of business and then jack up the prices... while processing plants of today are more reminiscent of Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" than they were fifteen or twenty years ago. It seems like the consumer is really getting screwed if it's all about prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
So about this law: the arguments about animal welfare are just a pretext for implementing islamophobic policy, to serve as a smoke screen for a massive anti-semetic conspiracy?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
This makes perfect sense.
Yes, what you have said is all correct. How does this negate my point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai Waki
Was I supposed to?
Oh I'm sorry. I was assuming from general angry tone coming from your post that you were trying to make statement about something I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai Waki
I see you were just rolling with it now.
You know what really pisses me off about meat nowadays? All the generic "steakhouses" won't even let me get my medium rare steak the way I want it. Oh sure they have it as an option but sometimes it seems as if they carbonize the entire outside layer and then quit right before the pink is gone so they can say it is "medium rare". I don't want to eat charcoal, I want my meat browned on the outside and practically raw in the middle. I guess too many idiots sued them because they didn't want to take the responsibility.
I cry every time someone orders it well done. What was the point in killing the cow in the first place?
Agreed the poor thing is already dead no need for post-mortum mutilation, rare plz