I don't want to lynch you, I want to see where this leads us. The game cannot be designed upong only lynches, so something will happen and I'm keen on finding out what that'll be.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
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I don't want to lynch you, I want to see where this leads us. The game cannot be designed upong only lynches, so something will happen and I'm keen on finding out what that'll be.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
The facts, as they are now.
The mafia, as of the current situation cannot kill. The fact that there was no night period last night, also indicates they cannot recruit. So the write-up from Night 1 is likely to be the only time when such an occurrence happens. The other thing I got from reading that write-up is that the first man seems to be a bit of a loose cannon, even though his brother says that they can't shoot anyone at night, he appears as though he might go against that, if given the chance at all.
So chances are if there are enough No Lynches, the first guy is going to lose patience and kill someone.
Moral of the story, we probably do have to lynch. The real question is who do we lynch?
My next question is, Is Heinrich an NPC or a living character?
I'm Heinrich, strangely enough.
Maybe we should frag the officer?
Why are you ordering us around in the write-ups? XDQuote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
Because I have the biggest willy.
LOL XD
I though you were called Percy…
Round over. No lynch again.
Once again, the votes were tallied.
Heinrich looked at the votes, in increasing disgust.
"No traitors, eh? No-one could possibly be the traitor... is that it?"
The men shrugged.
"WELL YOU'RE :daisy:ING WRONG! I SAW THE MESSAGE MYSELF, WE HAVE A TRAITOR!" Spit flew from Heinrich's mouth as he raged at the men. "I will kill you all myself if I have to, but you find a suspect, and you find one soon, or I will shoot every last one of you. IS THAT UNDERSTOOD!"
"GET OUT OF MY SIGHT MAGGOTS!"
Heinrich stormed off in disgust.
Next phase ends in around 24 hours.
No lynch and abstain are no longer an option. BTW, the writeups do not prove the innocence or scuminess of any player unless they are dying in the writeup.
Alive (Currently 6/7):
1. TheLastDays (No Capo naming for you!)
2. Cahoma
3. Robbiecon
4. Johnhughthom
5. Montmorency
6. Arjos
Dead:
7. El Barto, lynched Day One.
Reserves (Currently 2):
Choxorn
Double AA
Begin Day 4.
Seriously, I'm the only one who gets killed? AAAARGGGHH!!! More bloodshed, now!
Wait. Heinrich(AKA JHT) will start killing us if we don't start lynching?
Vote: JHT
Seriously Heinrich, you should try Anger Management, you'll get a heart attack some time :tongue:
vote: Cahoma
Easy target is easy, huh?
Very interesting. So who do we lynch tomorrow? There really isn't anything to go on.
@ Cahoma
Writeups, besides Night 1, contain no clues etc. They are just flavour.
Sorry to see you go john. Choxorn replaces johnhughthom.
Well alright then. Unvote
This is difficult!
Being Mafia is always difficult. Also since I already screwed up my personal goal I can go ahead and call you SCUMMY! :tongue:
Tell me, what is your reasoning for me being scummy?
Tell me, what is your reason for flinching?
Oh wait. This is the thing were you keep pushing someone and checks his reaction right? I've read about this I think.
All I'm saying is that you're voting for me for no reason in particular. Which is all fine.
Also, this reminds me of my only other mafia game.
Vote: Visorslash, for not sending me john's role PM. :brood:
I'm feeling abused by Heinrich XD
I wanted to vote John, so here's some love for the new Heinrich...
Vote: Choxorn
Not to mention that we got clues, then promised for more, then all gets denied, Visorslash sure is having fun :D
Heinrich said he'd kill us all if he had to, now whether that means in one go, or that whoever he says gets killed, gets killed.
Heinrich very much is the man in charge, now I guess he could be the traitor himself. He seems to have the same loose cannon edge that the man in the Night 1 write-up had. At the moment I'm at a toss-up between choxorn (Heinrich) and Cahoma, who took the immediate opportunity to vote for him, seeing perhaps an easy way to get a lynch. One theory is that jht's vote for himself yesterday may be the thing that triggered the No Lynch/Abstain not allowed. (either that or Visorslash realising that this was gonna be a LONG game, if no-one was getting killed)
I'll make my decision a little later.
Round extended by 24 hours. ONCE AGAIN, ONLY THE NIGHT 1 WRITEUP CONTAINED ANY KIND OF CLUE. THE REST IS JUST FOR FLAVOUR.
C'mon there, avenge my death!
I haven't even been given a Death QT. I feel so lonely…
Avenge my death?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Thread name is Vengeance.
Perhaps you're urging us to lynch choxorn (Heinrich). We know that you're anti-Heinrich.
I'm not letting go, Cahoma, I still don't like the reaction. That said, we don't have too many rounds to waste in a Mini game so... I'd like to hear more from my fellow players!
Vote: Choxorn
Is Heinrich the "Mafia?" Not so sure of that.
I just want to see what happens with the officer gone.
Of course, JHT may have been lying when he claimed Heinrich.
He wasn't lying, I am Heinrich. I'm just the officer leader guy, stop reading so much into the write-ups when Visor already said they're only for flavor.
Anyway, Vote: Cahoma. He flip-flops a lot, kept fishing for Heinrich's role early on, and largely acted like either a townie who wasn't paying attention or a mafia trying to act like an inattentive townie. I think he's posted too much to be a legitimate inattentive townie, and I don't like his reaction to TLD's flinch-testing.
Well, surely something interesting will happen with the leader guy dead?
Gunther is a rather nice name, by the way.
This is a Mini game, there's two Mafia among six people left so we can't afford a lynch on "surely something interesting will happen".
FoS: Monty
Anyway, according to the timer the dayphase is over already so let's wait for the writeup.
24 hour extension folks. (Try looking at my posts. :P)
But he extended the round. There should still be about 12 hours left.
EDIT: Crosspost
2 Mafia? I've only seen a couple of mini games, but both had only one mafioso. 2 of 7? Dunno.
There's surely some sort of twist to the game. Perhaps if the officer dies we all win.
Let's not be German robots. These guys clearly aren't vicious-murderer types.
Edit: Oh, and I'll make it clear that I don't think that the "other" in the N1 writeup is scum in the traditional sense.
fos:the Mafia
Try editing the timer! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
No idea how much time we have left on the clock but Monty, where does the strange push for a lynch of the officer come from? So the officer makes the whole story about traotors up (only that we have actually seen traitors talk to each other in a night writeup) to let us all kill each other? For the giggles? I mean it's possible but I'd say unlikely and we don't get many wrong lynches in a Mini game with 2 Mafiosi, which is really a lot for a Mini game.
If one of them actually bails out and isn't really Mafia, it's a different subject but we still don't get many lynches.
Vote : Cahoma, I know he pulled his vote off choxorn/jht/Heinrich, but still that may be to attempt to avoid being lynched himself. And I'm inclined to believe Heinrich is NOT the mafia, given that he is the officer in charge.
Sorry, didn't think I'd get back at midnight. :/
Tally, and lynch details tonight, writeup in the morning.
Tally:
2 x Choxorn (Arjos, Montmorency
1 x Cahoma (TLD)
Robbie, your vote was late, sorry.
Choxorn has been lynched, he was Heinrich, leader of the guard station, he was a steadfast man of the Reich, and not a traitor.
Begin Day 5.
Alive (Currently 5/7):
1. TheLastDays (No Capo naming for you!)
2. Cahoma
3. Robbiecon
5. Montmorency
6. Arjos
Dead:
7. El Barto, lynched Day One.
4. Johnhughthom (Replaced by Choxorn Day Four), lynched Day Four
Day is twice the length as it is possibly the final day. Lynch or lose folks.
Wait, what?
It was a tie!
Very well. Ddidn't see that he was late. But no special game-end. I'm disappointed.
Vote: Cahoma
FoS: Arjos
Didn't understand what happened, but like Montmorency said it was a tie...
Choxorn voted for Cahoma well within the round extension, while robbiecon's vote was a tie-breaker, but was after the round ended...
Vote: TLD
For his talk about ruining his goal, maybe all his non-lynching had something to do with the absence of night phases...
The inferiority of my analysis hinders me, but...
No, this stuff is worthless. :shrug:
Sorry guys. Eh, in these circumstances it will probably turn out to be TLD and robbie.
Choxorn was lynched just now. No night phase.Quote:
For his talk about ruining his goal, maybe all his non-lynching had something to do with the absence of night phases...
All I've got is that Cahoma revealed as townie after I posted my role PM, even after he noted in-thread that Mafia could easily copy-paste what I'd posted.
Names:
TLD: Ulrich
Montmorency: Jurgen
Cahoma: Gunther(??????)
Is there significance in this?
Yup, but Visorslash said that no lynches weren't acceptable anymore, and then TLD said the personal goal was ruined...
I'm pretty much confused too though :S
I'm Maximillian. A guard.
That's it. I have no special powers or anything.
My bad, you did say Maximillian. The hell did I get Gunther from?
This is just embarrassing.
Unvote; Vote: TLD
Why didn't my vote count? It was well before the end of the day, and robbie's was less than 24 hours after you posted "round extended 24 hours"
Hello? Are you guys crazy? I was AGAINST lynching the townie that was just lynched and you guys vote me instead of Cahoma and why? Because he told Monty that he is a townie?
Ok, listen: I'm a townie :yes:
Visor if you are putting me through another round where the game should have already ended because the Mafia control the vote I am going to be seriously pissed I had enough of things like that lately :tongue:
No, let's look at this in all seriousness:
My personal goal has nothing to do directly with night phases. My goal was to use the word "night" in every single game post and never use the word scum. I forgot to use "night" in one of my posts, that's why I said I lost my personal goal and that's also why I said I could finally call Cahoma scummy, because using the word "scum" wasn't a problem anymore.
Also, put all that on hold. Choxorn's vote was well in time and until we get clarification from the host why it wasn't counted I don't think we should continue this round.
That is a good idea.
Strange goal. Mine is to lynch a non-town role. Here's Cahoma's alleged goal:Quote:
My personal goal has nothing to do directly with night phases. My goal was to use the word "night" in every single game post and never use the word scum. I forgot to use "night" in one of my posts, that's why I said I lost my personal goal and that's also why I said I could finally call Cahoma scummy, because using the word "scum" wasn't a problem anymore.
Adds up. Must be why the only vote he ever stuck to was Robbiecon.Quote:
Personal Goal: The person you vote for isn't lynched.
Arjos, robbie, post your goals. Are they as incongruous as TLD's?
Ah :daisy:. This is what I get for trying to do things at midnight.
Sorry for screwing that up.
I agree but you have to blame the host, not me :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Look at my posts before that one where I say my goal was lost. They all contain the word "night" and I always say "Mafia" instead of "scum", while I usually use "scum" or both.
Just need guidance now. Is the lynch still valid? Choxorn lynched?Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
If so, vote: Cahoma - Anyone can claim townie, I don't know why you all agree that clears him? Seriously, you don't want to lynch me, I'm town.
Lynch is still valid. It's lynch or lose.
But Cahoma's goal still makes sense in the context of his posts. As does yours. I do not see why I should reject one, while accepting the other.
What does this goal mean? It could indicate that he's the "peaceful" mafioso, if he is indeed Mafia. And lynching the murderous one is what would bring us victory, correct?
Let's wait for the other two. The day is long.
Was robbiecon's vote also before the deadline, or just mine?
Only yours, robbie's was late.
Well... alright, just gotta deal with it, so let's think about this. It's perfectly possible to have a Mafioso who's not allowed to directly lynch anyone.
Of course my personal goal doesn't clear me either, just the whole case on me is made from me posting that I lost my personal goal and that it had anything to do with me not being able to kill at night or there being no night phases. The whole case on me doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Now, who lynched Choxorn? Arjos, explain your votes, both on me and Choxorn.
Robbie's vote was after the deadline.
I don't actually subscribe to any case against you. I just don't think Cahoma is a good lynch here.
Robbiecon, now, hasn't posted too frequently. About once a phase to make some analysis. He voted for Cahoma, but came too late. Very late. Why so late? Was he trying to get in at the last minute? He seems to have posted 15 minutes after the round's end.
You twice started No-Lynch wagons. I was second on both. Arjos was third on both. That's actually explained by activity times, I think. Arjos voted you for no reason on Day 3.
On Day 3 - Cahoma votes TLD, Arjos votes TLD, unvotes
Day 4 - Cahoma votes John, unvotes, Arjos votes John('s replacement)
Day 5 - Arjos votes TLD on flimsy reasoning
So, Cahoma and Arjos had a weird little voting thing going on there for a couple of days. They're both acting like inexperienced players, while you and robbie are acting like...something?
24 hours later.Quote:
Originally Posted by robbie
I am an inexperienced player.
unvote, vote: robbiecon
To answer, as I said the other time my vote for TLD was to avoid a possible tie, nothing else...Quote:
Personal Goal: Never cast the first vote.
Choxorn simply because I wanted to lynch Heinrich, as he was distracting...
My last vote for TLD, as Monty pointed out, I'm put off by his behaviour, and still his "goal" sounds too silly...
There was no tie, when you voted for me on that day.
Lynching someone for being a distraction, in a Mini Mafia, where every lynch counts and he wasn't even really distracting?
My goal sounds silly? As I said, I agree, please address complaints to Visor :tongue: - you're as put off by my behaviour as in Netherworld?
I'm gett strong scum vibes from you, Mr. Arjos but let's have a look at these for now:
Go on, I've shown mine, show me yours. EDIT: I mean everbody, not just Arjos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Role PM
Here's mine:
For the tie, I meant between the actual votes on people, I skipped the no-lynches as it was getting very boring due to nothing happening...Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
Edit: Cahoma as "pacifist" mafia, must say seems to fit the ally from N1's write-up...
My role PM:
And that's why I'm the last in the door for the votes.Quote:
Robbiecon:
Background Info: You are Harold, a guard. You have orders to protect what is inside Complex A12, even though you don't know what is in there. There is something not quite right with your team. Don't let anyone inside Complex A12, you have your orders. Your brother is in here somewhere as well. You don't really care about the Nazi regime, so it doesn't matter to you if someone gets into A12.
Faction Goal: Town, Eliminate all traitors.
Personal Goal: Twice be the last to vote for a lynch.
Survival: Try to survive to the end.
Abilities: None
Any questions, don't hesitate to ask.
Good luck!
You have a brother in here and you don't care about the Nazi regime?
I also wonder what the whole business (something isn't right with your team) and the part about complex A12 is supposed to mean.
Finally something different...
The rest I don't know, but this one is even in mine and your PMs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh! TheLastDays!
Yes, I know, I was referring to all role PMs actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
You're a Nazi Commisar. Nope, that doesn't make sense. COMMIE SCUM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
You claim to have a brother. You don't care about serving the Reich, and yet you're town? Hmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by robbiecon
No, you said you were worried what would happen if there was a tie at the end of the day and since "No Lynch" was still a legitimate choice (as per game rules) there was no tie, thus no danger, no matter how you personally felt about no lynches. Why the vote? Why is today's vote still on me? What case do you have on me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
unvote, vote: Arjos
The vote is still on you, because to me that goal of yours doesn't make any sense...
I looked in wikipedia, as I didn't even know it, and there is also Kommissar in german, I didn't pick it ask Visorslash XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
There is the word Kommissar in german. But I have to tell the same thing about my personal goal: Ask Visorslash, he invented it :tongue:
You haven't explained your past vote on me and you haven't explained your vote on Choxorn, you keep diverting and avoiding questions.
But did the Germans have the equivalent of political commissars (called commissars) embedded in their units? No, really, I want to know.
I've explained them already:
Choxorn because of the confusion due to Heinrich; and your first vote was to avoid a tie, then I unvoted, because it wasn't much of a case, in the hope to get info in the write-ups as Visorslash said a "nice" one was coming...
I'm not sure, I don't think so but you have to keep in mind that Visorslash probably doesn't have a history degree, specialising in the history of Nazi Germany, so the role being a Commissar doesn't mean Arjos is scum.
His behaviour, on the other hand, is scummy and he has to be lynched for that. I'm giving Cahoma the benefit of the doubt here because I don't think the host would have counted the lynch of Choxorn if there was a chance Cahoma was scum. If we lose to that... oh well, I had him already.
Then please convince me someone else is guilty, do some work, show me something, because, obviously, I know your current vote is not on the Mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
There is Cahoma with his passiveness, and no night actions blends with the "pacifist" mafia Monty contemplated...
There's robbie with the only different PM talking about a brother...
Then we have Montmorency, who is giving various analysis...
I've looked at posts, was put off by that ruining your goal already, and formulated my idea...
While you have been FoSing basically everyone, and switched votes all the time since the no-lynch option was removed...
I'm passive because I have no idea what to say.
It's because I feel like the only one doing anything to pressure people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos
Well, if Cahoma is the passive partner, lynching him will not win us the game, Visor hinted this might be the last day so we have to get the real traitor.
Monty, robbie or you.
Aha, but as the first to post a role PM, I am automatically absolved. Those townies out there can easily compare the wording.
FoS: TLD
I can understand that, but seems like you are just looking for someone cracking under the pressure to frame...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh! TheLastDays!
Good plan as Mafia.
Go ahead, do what you want but pressuring people is part of the job and especially part of what I always do. I know I make myself ridiculously suspicious while doing so. And? I don't care.
@Monty:
There's a good chance the Mafia had cover roles to begin with and even assuming that you are cleared, simply by posting your role PM earns you a massive FoS.