For all we know, the game hasn't even technically begun. :shrug:
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For all we know, the game hasn't even technically begun. :shrug:
I'm saying the town as a group should make a group decision that the group will follow. The entire idea of cooperation is that people will do this in the interest of the majority. If (assuming there are 2 mafiosi) 2 mafiosi both change their votes in an effort to counteract town efforts to lynch someone then it only takes 3 townies out of the 15 other people to get the desired result. Further, that is assuming that mafiosi can change their votes, which we don't know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I would expect the same thing from an individual role, as that would be their goal too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmonSoil
1. That cooperation will be more difficult to extract (particularly in a restricted period of time) than you realize.Quote:
I'm saying the town as a group should make a group decision that the group will follow. The entire idea of cooperation is that people will do this in the interest of the majority. If (assuming there are 2 mafiosi) 2 mafiosi both change their votes in an effort to counteract town efforts to lynch someone then it only takes 3 townies out of the 15 other people to get the desired result. Further, that is assuming that mafiosi can change their votes, which we don't know for sure.
2.Ah hell, so kills can change without any of the lynches changing. It just gets better and better.Quote:
Originally Posted by CB
We have had a fair number of players active since the starting post, and if even some of them acted it would be enough. I think it could be managed.Quote:
1. That cooperation will be more difficult to extract (particularly in a restricted period of time) than you realize.
Ah. That complicates matters somewhat. In fact the only real results we have are what occurs on the first night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I still maintain that close voting is the best way to go, but the kill changing is a real difficulty...
But the mafia can't do anything else on a night that they time-travel, so it should be pretty evident when they do change their kill(s).Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
You mean besides the fact that a person who was killed is suddenly alive? :tongue:
Arach: Do you have a case on whom we should switch to with our vote-change abilities?
Not yet. That's why we should leave our options as open as possible. Don't get me wrong, if we have someone who we are even 90% sure is scum we should lynch them as hard as we can, but at this point in the game, I'd say we should keep our options open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
23 hours left in the round.
The first round will be longer to answer any questions that people have. I will now go back over all the questions and edit this post with answers.
Question and Answer Time
When does Time Travelling Occur?
It occurs at night time travelling is a night action if it is done then you character can do no other night action if they have any.
Role PM'S
No quoting of them please. You can state your role name but that is all
Also where is the code for the end of round timers?
Vote: Salmonsoil for now, perhaps in a week I change my mind! :laugh4::dizzy2:
vote: Riedquat
I think we should avoid long time travels, say more than 2 rounds, if we keep all votes close.
Why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
Also, here's a poll - tell me if I've made any mistakes:
CountArach (Chaotix, Montmorency)
Greyblades (Arjos, Yarapolk)
Arjos (Greyblades, Ishmael)
Yarapolk (Lewwyn, Tuuvi)
SalmonSoil (issaikhaan, Riedquat)
Riedquat (edse)
Ishmael (CountArach)
Montmorency (Visorslash)
Unvote; Vote: edse
Please justify your former vote.
Since we are allowed to state our role names, do you guys think we should all state who we are? I think it might make it easier to figure things out once we read the write ups.
The vote was just random like everyone else's.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
The other part was because so many people are affected by long time travels. One or two (Close votes and night kills) each round that you travel and for example for a 4 round trip you get 5 or 6 dead people returning and the same number of living players that die.
Interesting theorizination.... ing. Close voting/options open makes sense - as always?Vote: Ishmael
Round Over prepare for write up.
As the clocks and the hourglasses of T.I.M.E begin to shudder the arguments between all the time travellers heighten there seems to be an agreement made. Since they still have access to the time travel devices they should keep all these decisions close so that any time traveller from the future could easily change the result of what just occurred. It is thus decided that all should be made to feel the pressure of the vote regardless of actual suspicion. It comes from this result that six people are put up before the Gods of Time as the first people who could be the T.I.M.E agents. With six people to be chosen from how could it be done so it was fair. A random number mayhap could be given to each candidate to determine this. It is agreed all the people turn to the good Inspector Spacetime for him to be the one to organise this since it is known that Inspector Spacetime could not possible be evil. He turns to those facing him and hands them one by one a stick from his hand. Once that is complete they all open their hands to see who will be the first sacrificed. It turns out to be Jack Harkness (Arjos) a former T.I.M.E agent who long ago left the organisation. He accepts his fact with calmness knowing that with time travel this death will be purely temporary. He walks to the portal and is promptly removed from the time stream. Inspector Spacetime talks to those present. It is time we all go to bed. Was the decision we made a bad one? Should we change its result? Now remember everyone we can only travel to any given place once so it is a question we must ask is it worth it to do it now? Or should we await more information.
Monty CountArach
Visorslash Monty
CountArach Edse
Lewwyn Yaropolk
Daveshack
Chaotix CountArach
Atheotos
yaropolk Greyblades
Arjos Greyblades
reidquat SalmonSoil
SalmonSoil Monty
Ishamel Arjos
LazyMcCrow Ishmael
Edse Reidquat
Tuuvi Yaropolk
Greyblades Arjos
Khan SalmonSoil
Begin Night One
Montmorency
Visorslash
CountArach
Lewwyn
Daveshack
Chaotix
Atheothos
Yaropolk
Arjos
Reidquat
Salmonsoil
Ishmael
LazyMcCrow
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Khann
Captain B - can I please request that you add vote tally's to the writeup. With time travel powers i think its very important to keep track of who is voting for whom.
Aha!
That won't work, Yaro. You see, tallies will not be updated with manipulations!
The only indicator that any votes were changed would be a change in the Living Player list.
Who exactly is evil here? The TIME agents only want to prevent us from making the whole universe die!Quote:
it is known that Inspector Spacetime could not possible be evil.
I believe he meant the normal tally so that you in the future easily can see how the votes can have been altered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
2 CountArach (Chaotix, Montmorency)
2 Greyblades (Arjos, Yarapolk)
2 Arjos (Greyblades, Ishmael)
2 Yarapolk (Lewwyn, Tuuvi)
2 SalmonSoil (issaikhaan, Riedquat)
1 Riedquat (edse)
1 Ishmael (LazyMcCrow)
1 Montmorency (Visorslash)
1 edse (CountArach)
3 No Vote (DaveShack, atheotes, Salmonsoil)
But... uh...eh... Arjos is in that list... isn't he? So.. if no tally and no lynch are showed this game will last forever, no?
Edit: bah! edse beat me :(
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I believe he meant the normal tally so that you in the future easily can see how the votes can have been altered.
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But... uh...eh... Arjos is in that list... isn't he? So.. if no tally and no lynch are showed this game will last forever, no?
If he does begin to include tallies, and alter them as per your suggestion, then yes, things will become much easier, or at least much more interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by CB
However, I have seen no indication that he will do it.
No, I meant that he won't edit them. Like if Riedquat is lynched when the new day starts we can see that two people might have changed their vote by looking at CB's post with the tally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
You have an insane fixation you know? :P
How could you tell? Any of the players might have switched.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
For example, if no one switches tonight but me, I could have Greyblades lynched and it wouldn't have anything to do with Arjos or Yaro...
So you think we shouldn't care about previous days tallies at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
You'll still know whom voted for whom (originally) of course, but in a game like this scope for bussing/distancing is huge.
So, basically, yeah. It's worth very little.
You'll turn up lynched tomorrow...Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Hmmm - it's the Mafia who usually like to keep inconvenient truths quiet...
I think that's probably what edse was getting at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
If you're town, scum will lynch you to shut you up.
If you're scum, town will lynch you because you're scum.
There's no being a super-townie in this game...
Tell that to Arach!
Ummmm. Pretty sure I voted for Montmorency.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
Where we're we told that there were no super townies?
Okay I think the write up clues us in on things here. Argos is innocent because Harkness is invariably a good character in his shows and the write up seems to conform that. I'm guessing that we can't reveal our characters but if we experiment a bit with who we kill it looks like the write ups will at least tell us if we got someone scummy.
Also CB - You wouldn't happen to be a fan of community would you? :wink:
By super-townies, I mean high-profile clearly-town-assisting type players, not power roles.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
As for Arjos - can't say that for sure. It would kind of defeat the purpose of the game if we were told who was innocent and who not once we killed them- it would make the time travel a lot less interesting as a concept.
I dont think you are getting any indication of scum from the role name and perhaps even the writeups.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
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Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
Then what does this mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
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It turns out to be Jack Harkness (Arjos) a former T.I.M.E agent who long ago left the organisation.
Eh, that would actually make him more suspicious considering he's already been working for T.I.M.E and has a connection with the organization, still, I would imagine getting one of the mafia would have incurred a more violent incident in the writeup... Unless that bit about "this death will be purely temporary" is alluding to how the Time agents are likely top resurrect a fallen comrade after this timewarp is done. Hmm... I kinda wish arjos turned out to be the doctor at least there'd be a decent chance he's on the up and up story wise and resurrecting him would be a no brainer.
Oh :daisy:
:worried:
Eh?
There is no way out. But it's too late now, with only hours to spare.
I guess you're replying to Monty's brainfart, but that's also pretty much my response to most of what's been posted so far. I'm hoping it'll all make more sense in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Care to share?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
You are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmonSoil
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Originally Posted by edse
Round Over prepare for write up.
As night falls on the headquarters of T.I.M.E the various time travellers return to their rooms to decide what it is that they need to do to see that they can survive. The people return to their rooms one by one. Suddenly people hear the sound of humming. A time machine has started up. A loud crack is heard as the figure disappears into the past. The others that have not chosen to do this wait to see who it is that will die.
A figure is sitting in his room working on the backstep device. His name is Frank Parker (Chaotix) a former CIA man now working for a top secret US government project to deal with time travel. He is leaning over the device whispering to it. Hush Lulu I will use you soon enough. Just have to calibrate the needles to improve my landings. So far I have never landed where I wanted to but this will change Lulu. Allright time to undo that event. Frank starts to put on his chrononaut uniform but it is not to be. As he stands by his time machine. A figure comes by. You have meddled enough Frank Parker. You are the worst of the lot. Always going back in time saving countless people that should have died. Starker should have taken over the US government. That virus should have being released and killed millions. That dam should have collapsed. Yet you had to stop all those things and turn them “right”. Well prepare to die Parker and this time there will be no turning back time for you. With these roads the figure pulls out a small device aims it at Parker and fires. Parker feels the very atoms of his body being torn apart and then he simply vanishes. All that is left of the chrononaut is a small patch of fire and his now non-functioning backstep device. \
Chaotix (Frank Parker) is dead
Alexander Gibson (SalmonSoil) stood in his room utterly confused by some of the things people were saying. All he wanted was to play a nice round of Golf and find out what had changed in the game since the year 2000 where he had last seen the game after travelling in time from 1892. He had heard of this women’s liberation idea in the year 2000 and found it to be a grand idea indeed for it left the men of the year 2000 with much more time to play golf. With that he prepared his clubs for a quick game that night. When he turned to leave the room a figure was standing there with a giant rifle. Where is he? It is you isn't it? Your the one I want arn't you? Answer me!! Gibson began to speak. Why my good man I have no idea what you want do you want to play a round? Maybe I could take your photograph when I went to the year 2000 they told me that colour photography was all the rage in London Town. With that the figure yells out shut up, shut up, shut up!!! And pulls his rifle up and shoots Alexander Gibson in the head.
Alexander Gibson (SalmonSoil) is dead
Now for the final scene A figure stalks his prey to his room but this time just as he is about to enter the room a loud cracking sound is heard and when he enters the room the time travel device and his intended victim are gone nowhere to be seen. The figure curses and curses that his victim should escape in such a manner. Next time he realises that he needs to be quicker to get this man. Next time he will not be so lucky. Next time he will pay.
As day breaks Inspector Spacetime walks out and looks around to see if any time traveller should appear or disappear based on the time travel from last night. Nothing happens Jack Harkness is still dead. Allright men let us begin and find out who should we lynch this time around?
Begin Day Two
Round Ends in 24 Hours
Montmorency
Visorslash
CountArach
Lewwyn
Daveshack
Chaotix
Atheothos
Yaropolk
Arjos
Reidquat
Salmonsoil
Ishmael
LazyMcCrow
Edse
Tuuvi
Greyblades
Khann
Interesting.Quote:
Now for the final scene A figure stalks his prey to his room but this time just as he is about to enter the room a loud cracking sound is heard and when he enters the room the time travel device and his intended victim are gone nowhere to be seen. The figure curses and curses that his victim should escape in such a manner. Next time he realises that he needs to be quicker to get this man. Next time he will not be so lucky. Next time he will pay.
Alright, so this means there are 3 kills, and one doctor. Or if the quoted is fluff, or something else entirely, well - still 2 kills.
That leads me to believe that I was wrong. Kills prbably will change if a killer is lynched in the past.
I will admit to.Quote:
the people return to their rooms one by one. Suddenly people hear the sound of humming. A time machine has started up. A loud crack is heard as the figure disappears into the past. The others that have not chosen to do this wait to see who it is that will die.
I went back to move my vote onto Arjos; blame edse for making me paranoid.
What is our course of action? We could collectively lynch anyone on D1, and see if Chaotix or Salmon survive.
However, we can not pull that sort of trick indefinitely, as the multiple kills will within 3 or 4 days whittle us to the point that the Mafia will simply interfere with the attempt. Also, don't forget the 1-travel limit.
All in all, things look pretty dire.
Yes indeed... though I wonder if the doctor can go back in time to protect someone who was attacked on a previous night. If there is a doctor of course. If you are reading this, hypothetical doctor, please try to do that if you can as it will save us valuable townies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Yeah I think that is our best bet, but we must do that with our night actions. It doesn't get us any closer on who to kill today. Also you sort of used your 1 travel to day 1 on self-preservation...Quote:
What is our course of action? We could collectively lynch anyone on D1, and see if Chaotix or Salmon survive.
I received a PM from Yaropolk that is somewhat suspicious, though whether or not it is indictable is another question altogether. It is contained below:
I refused to go along with the plan. A few things that I find odd here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaropolk
1) He said that he would change his vote last night but if what Montmorency said is true then it was him who entered the time machine last night. Of course, multiple people may well have in which case this is inconclusive. I'd still like to know his actions.
2) There is no way to know that everyone with 2 votes is innocent. His reasoning is fair enough, though at the same time most scummy people would not change out of that 5 way tie situation (in which they only have a 20% chance of dying) for fear of looking scummy.
3) I don't like massive amounts of self-preservation. Our travels to any day are 1 use only and we can't squander that.
Furhter he hasn't really contributed anything in thread. I'd at least like to hear a little more from him. Vote: Yaropolk
Alright, but we can't honestly expect results from a D1 change, at least not anytime soon. Too many possibilities, and no case convincing enough to draw in the whole town.
Let me reiterate that if there are really 3 killers and one doctor, we will have only 4 shots (at best) of collectively altering the past. If two and no doctor, maybe 5.
OK, the more I try to figure out what is the best course of action here, the more quantum my brain gets as it threatens to ooze out of my ear. However - things that occur to me on the surface of Times' greasy pool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
1) Monty, I can see from your post about paranoia getting the better of you, but your self-preservation move smells fishy as hell - so fishy it probably isn't, but even so; your 'daisy' post already gave me pause for thought.
2) Count Arachs vote on Yaropolk seems entirely reasonable, but as I think it is in our best interests to keep things close, and also to apply some pressure - I must
3)vote: Greyblades Everything about that above post rings my bells buddy.
People are dying much quicker than I thought. I think that probably each mafia has a kill, and there are 2 of them. My write up sounds like I was killed by either a serial killer or a vigilante. The third write up for a failed kill could mean there is a doctor (Who, perhaps?), however it seems possible from the write up that the kill failed because the victim was time traveling. But this would mean that every night everyone should just time travel to protect themselves, so it probably isn't an actual rule.
I think we should try screw with the day one lynch and see if we can save me or Chaotix.
For now I'll save my ghost vote till the end of the day to see if I can create some sort of useful ripple effect.
...
If we go back and lynch SalmonSoil instead of Arjos on day one, then on night three, we stop him from being lynched on day one, what happens?
We can't - only one travel per day. Also, you claimed Doctor Who. what's uo with that?
I know that, but what are you trying to get at?
That we can't do that?
And are you really Who?
I think this is the crux. I don't think we should go back in time and start fiddling with stuff yet. This is a mafia game afterall. At its heart we should be looking for scum not continually second guessing ourselves. I think we should really try to figure it out and then plan our time travel based on suspicions instead of willynilly re-voting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Speaking of looking for scum. That's a pretty interesting tidbit Arach. I think for me the part that is most interesting is that Yaropolk is so sure that all the people tied for 1st are not scum. If the town is moving forward on a plan like tying up votes at 2, don't you think that scum would try not to draw attention on the first day? There's nothing to fight about. Plus scum know that they can convince other people to go back and change their votes so they wouldn't be worried about being lynched day 1. If anything wouldn't you want to be lynched Day 1 so that when paranoid panicky villagers start second guessing themselves they bring you back to life? Seems Yaropolk is trying to do just that.
Vote: Yaropolk Talking would be good here.
BTW Lazy, Yaropolk voted for Greyblades on Day 1, what do you think of his attempt to switch off of Greyblades?
Also go back and look at the lynch write up. The namelist has been edited something funky by CB today. Any guess on what that is?
I'm still slightly confused on the whole timetravelling mechanic.
Well, we know who our confirmed innocents are at least.
So: Vote: Yaropolk
You mean the dead people?Quote:
Also go back and look at the lynch write up. The namelist has been edited something funky by CB today. Any guess on what that is?
Just who voted for whom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewwyn
Visorslash - any thoughts on the game so far?
Are you suggesting that Monty was the intended target since we know he went back in time?Quote:
Originally Posted by SalmonSoil
Visor, I think if we lynched Salmon on Day 1 and then went back night 3 and re-lynched arjos then Salmon would be rekilled on Night 1. AT least that's my take on it. Basically every order and vote anyone makes is always in force. if the person is alive the action is in force. If the action is on a dead person it sits there but if that person lives again then the dormant action then re-applies.
That's what I've gathered.
Honestly: My thoughts are this. We need CLEAR lynches. SO the scum cannot go back and revive a buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
I'm not too sure on whether we can use the time travel mechanic properly to help us win, so at the moment, I'm going to go with the first option and play it like a standard mafia game.
Sounds good. I'm happy to lynch Yaro today or Greyblades, either one.
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Originally Posted by Visorslash
Well if we think about what Salmon's idea that we have a Vig then that's not necessarily true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Well, our vig knows who the confirmed innocents are then.
Dead people formulate actions that take effect immediately when they return. If their revival somehow entails the revival of another, and that one directed any actions towards the first, they will take effect as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewwyn
There's no point in considering the outcome of Visor's hypothetical, because by rule we can only visit a given phase once.
:bow:
Not sure if this was made clear each person can only visit a phase once. So if Monty visited Day one last night then he cannot go back to that day all other players can unless they too already went back to day one.
Hrm, 3 kills/attempts last night, I think that settles whether or not arjos is scum, and if noone claims they did it, the time machine thing might also clear monty.
Explain, please.Quote:
vote: Greyblades Everything about that above post rings my bells buddy.
I think we should start considering not just who we want to lynch but who we want to go back to lynch on day 1. The earlier we organise this the better.
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Originally Posted by Visorslash
Those sound like good arguments to me. Vote: YaropolkQuote:
Originally Posted by Lewwyn
Whatever you do, don't waste more than one night power trying to save us. You would have to get the killer dead-on, and that's something that usually takes a whole game to do.
Not only that, but no guarantee getting rid of one of them will even do anything, if there are multiple mafia allied to each other.
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On a side note, I predict SalmonSoil is mafia. Or if he's not: the mafia are going to try to set it up so that when one of them is killed, it will cause the other one to be revived. This makes the revived one look innocent and practically assures them victory. Expect them to bring someone back who died very early so that when they bring him back for endgame there will be almost no way for a single person to past-lynch him along the timeline.
Potential Vote: SalmonSoil
I'm going to be placing these potential votes for dead people every phase in the hopes that, should you realize who the revived mafia is but be unable to cause his lynch in the future, you can find some way to make sure he never comes back to life.
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Originally Posted by Lewwyn
The post that CountArach posted about me is absolutely true, my reasoning is self evident from the post. I wanted to make the lynch concrete - so found another person with 2 votes on them and tried to convince them to make a 4 vote block on someone, to counter either one of us getting lynched retroactively by other night switchers. CA refused my proposal, and I did not proceed on my own because my plan required both of us to act. This is also the reason why Greyblades was not a viable lynch candidate (my vote was already on him).
Reasons why this post points to me not being mafia:
- Scum would not have contacted/trusted a random stranger - instead would have coordinated behind the scenes with their partner.
- If scum did reach out to random person, they would have killed off CA after the refusal to keep him quiet.
Second for the retroactive vote I propose we go back in time and lynch SalmonSoil. This move will waste a night kill for the mafia. If we do this every night, we'll cut their killing ability in half. Yes we could try switching votes around until we find what stops the killer, but consider the following:
- Trying to stop the killer completely retroactively will have nowhere close to a 100% effectiveness on any given night.
- Using that strategy, if we're wrong, the suspects we eliminate are also innocents.
- If we are deciding as a group who to lynch retroactively, mafia can influence the decision both by advocating in public and privately vote switching.
- By committing to retroactively lynch night kill victims we completely frustrate the mafia's public voice.
I am very suspicious of Lewwyn, and not just because he's voting for me. I highlighted the relevant points in his quote:
- He claims I am "so sure that all people tied for first are not scum" - my exact quote is "I believe that people tied for 1st ... are most likely innocent. ... That's as close to a clue that I have right now." Lewwyn is clearly manipulating the truth here to make it sound like I am coming with a firm conviction based on non public information, where my post indicates I am doing an educated guess at best.
- He also goes on to ask rhetorically, "[W]ouldn't you want to be lynched Day 1 so that when paranoid panicky villagers start second guessing themselves they bring you back to life?" The traditional mafia approach is stay active but not so active as to bring attention to yourself. Why risk it all on day 1 - for the lulz?
Vote:Lewwyn
You contacted CA only? :inquisitive: It doesn't look good for you at the moment...
All my thoughts about everything so far can be resumed in a big and long: ummmmmm..... :dizzy2: will vote later when I get time to read everything more carefully
Yes I contact CA only, the tally for people with 2 votes was was:
2 CountArach (Chaotix, Montmorency)
2 Greyblades (Arjos, Yarapolk)
2 Arjos (Greyblades, Ishmael)
2 Yarapolk (Lewwyn, Tuuvi)
2 SalmonSoil (issaikhaan, Riedquat)
Arjos was dead, Greyblades already had my vote. The only 2 options were CA and Salmon Soil, and quite frankly I didn't want to expose myself to multiple strangers on N1.
I was thinking the same as Chaotix.
Vote:SalmonSoil
Potential Vote: Salmonsoil
Mainly to keep an option to Yaro's wagon and because I don't know much about the golfer...
Had to read this post several times to completely digest it. If I understand all this mechanic correctly, to get Salmonsoil revived we should get his killer/partner lynched on day 1, right? Do you think mafia would kill one of their own so early in the game with all this confusing concepts in town's mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
I think the currently living ones should be focusing in the currently living ones, at least for a while, spreading to much could be dangerously ineffective if we start voting for the current deceased ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
I got a headache now.
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That would be nearly impossible to accomplish deliberately...Quote:
On a side note, I predict SalmonSoil is mafia. Or if he's not: the mafia are going to try to set it up so that when one of them is killed, it will cause the other one to be revived. This makes the revived one look innocent and practically assures them victory. Expect them to bring someone back who died very early so that when they bring him back for endgame there will be almost no way for a single person to past-lynch him along the timeline.
Yaro, the problem with your plan is that Mafia can go back and change their kills.
All we would be accomplishing is the wasting of a collective transition.
My suspects, for no particular reasons: edse, ?
I get the feeling this game is going to end up being hilarious.
Your vote only applies if you are brought back somehow - don't forget.Quote:
Potential Vote: Salmonsoil
Mainly to keep an option to Yaro's wagon and because I don't know much about the golfer...
Duh...Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Host asked for it, just respecting that...
For pushing you to a mistake?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Sure, sure, I just had to make sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arjos