Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by El Barto

Look, you don't need to be as poisonous as an Arbok.

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Poisonous snakes are only a problem to people planning to eat them.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

So, my first thought was that novice is a bit scummy for pushing the "everyone needs to give me your own descriptions of your playstyles" thing just a bit too hard, especially as he's been on this forum before and I don't recall him doing it when he was truly new (and town) to boot. There's a couple posts in there about ideal town strategy, etc, but that's pretty easy to fake as scum.

Sooh and Viper probably not aligned.

Vote: novice

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What was your second thought?

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Originally Posted by novice

What was your second thought?

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"Sooh and Viper probably not aligned."

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Originally Posted by novice

About Sooh. I stereotype her as the helpful, observing type, who (tries to) facilitate discussion, gathers evidence, and follows up with good insights later, not having too many strong opinions, but also rarely being wrong. Does not drive the lynch.

So she's on schedule so far but has a lot to live up to later...

That really sounds like a ridiculous stereotype now that I type it out. How does it fit, Sooh?

What is your read on Sooh, Viper?

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So far, I'd agree about helpful and trying to start discussion, as her stepping in to react to what she read as my potential inexperience/lack of knowledge. She did show she puts importance on analysis and evidence when she mentioned looking forward to when I'd actually analyze things. I can't say I like her ignoring the questions I've asked in saying that, or that it still looks like she went out of her way to answer for you.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Probably, I just didn't think much about it.

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^Also that she's that type of player. :P

If she is the more quiet/passive but accurate type, I'd admit I like that, but we'll see.

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Originally Posted by novice

That's not what Barto said.

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He only said "Not(ic)ed". Granted, I'm interpreting that, but why are you saying my interpretation is wrong?

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Originally Posted by novice

About Sooh. I stereotype her as the helpful, observing type, who (tries to) facilitate discussion, gathers evidence, and follows up with good insights later, not having too many strong opinions, but also rarely being wrong. Does not drive the lynch.

So she's on schedule so far but has a lot to live up to later...

That really sounds like a ridiculous stereotype now that I type it out. How does it fit, Sooh?

What is your read on Sooh, Viper?

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I mean, I can link you to a post describing my play made by someone I play with regularly, though it is a few months old.
What I do notice though is that you don't really describe any difference in terms of my town or scum play, but I'm not sure how many of either we have played together. Other than that it's sort of just a description of my personality.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

"Sooh and Viper probably not aligned."

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Your second thought on novice was that I and Sooh are probably not aligned?

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Sooh and Viper probably not aligned.

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Why would you say that? Is it unthinkable to you that we're both town already? Who is the scum then?

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

I can't say I like her ignoring the questions I've asked in saying that, or that it still looks like she went out of her way to answer for you.

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What did I miss?

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

So, my first thought was that novice is a bit scummy for pushing the "everyone needs to give me your own descriptions of your playstyles" thing just a bit too hard, especially as he's been on this forum before and I don't recall him doing it when he was truly new (and town) to boot. There's a couple posts in there about ideal town strategy, etc, but that's pretty easy to fake as scum.

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Because, GH, I haven't pushed that thing at all. I asked politely, once, in the opening post. The only post where I'm even close to pushing it is in post 45 in a direct response to Viper, and there I said that it was mainly a conversation starter. A multitude of players ignored my request without me complaining. I'm even voting for Raith Kemmler because he answered my request!

I've never played with these players before:
Logic
Champ
Manasi
SeveringViper
Csargo (I don't think?)
Autolycus
Raith Kemmler

So I figured it was a reasonable conversation starter. Which also might draw a scummy vote like the one you just made.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

He only said "Not(ic)ed". Granted, I'm interpreting that, but why are you saying my interpretation is wrong?

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Maybe it's mine that is wrong. I figured he was referencing my play in previous games.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

I mean, I can link you to a post describing my play made by someone I play with regularly, though it is a few months old.
What I do notice though is that you don't really describe any difference in terms of my town or scum play, but I'm not sure how many of either we have played together. Other than that it's sort of just a description of my personality.

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He's made a point of saying he might not be able to read you correctly because of having played with you regularly before and having formed a preconception of how you play. Are you saying he hasn't played with you that regularly?
I'd say rather that he's only describing how he sees/what he looks for in your town play, since nobody talks about how mafia is rarely "wrong".

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Originally Posted by Sooh

What did I miss?

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Questions to Raith and what I meant by that question to novice in regards to analyzing things.

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Originally Posted by novice

Maybe it's mine that is wrong. I figured he was referencing my play in previous games.

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Saying that this approach of being the detective/interrogator is unusual for you?

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Originally Posted by Sooh

I mean, I can link you to a post describing my play made by someone I play with regularly, though it is a few months old.
What I do notice though is that you don't really describe any difference in terms of my town or scum play, but I'm not sure how many of either we have played together. Other than that it's sort of just a description of my personality.

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That's what I was aiming for though.

Sure, I'd like a link, although I'm not planning on doing external research on 16 players.

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Originally Posted by novice

That's what I was aiming for though.

Sure, I'd like a link, although I'm not planning on doing external research on 16 players.

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No comment on Sooh appearing to say you don't know her play as well as you claimed?

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

He's made a point of saying he might not be able to read you correctly because of having played with you regularly before and having formed a preconception of how you play. Are you saying he hasn't played with you that regularly?

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The point was rather that I've played with her enough to from a stereotype and little enough that it might be way off.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

I'd say rather that he's only describing how he sees/what he looks for in your town play, since nobody talks about how mafia is rarely "wrong".

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Yes, exactly.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

Saying that this approach of being the detective/interrogator is unusual for you?

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No, I thought he was saying that he had noticed me not being good at drawing conclusions.

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Originally Posted by novice

The point was rather that I've played with her enough to from a stereotype and little enough that it might be way off.

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Oh, hm. I understood it as that enough time had passed that her play style could have changed, but that comes out to the same thing tbh.

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Originally Posted by novice

No, I thought he was saying that he had noticed me not being good at drawing conclusions.

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Ah.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

He's made a point of saying he might not be able to read you correctly because of having played with you regularly before and having formed a preconception of how you play. Are you saying he hasn't played with you that regularly?
I'd say rather that he's only describing how he sees/what he looks for in your town play, since nobody talks about how mafia is rarely "wrong".

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Regularly is a very loose term in that case. I've played less than 10 games here on this site I believe, not all of them with novice, and over the course of a couple of years. That would also be the reason why I don't feel like I have much in terms of meta on players here, but rather play from what I see, not what I expect.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

Questions to Raith and what I meant by that question to novice in regards to analyzing things.

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I don't understand. Are you looking for me to answer something?

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Originally Posted by novice

That's what I was aiming for though.

Sure, I'd like a link, although I'm not planning on doing external research on 16 players.

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From November last year, so it's a bit older than I remembered. Post

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Regularly is a very loose term in that case. I've played less than 10 games here on this site I believe, not all of them with novice, and over the course of a couple of years. That would also be the reason why I don't feel like I have much in terms of meta on players here, but rather play from what I see, not what I expect.

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I see.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

I don't understand. Are you looking for me to answer something?

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Nah, just saying it looks like you said I was doing nothing when I'd already started asking questions.

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Originally Posted by novice

The point was rather that I've played with her enough to from a stereotype and little enough that it might be way off.

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That's sort of what I got from it, yes. I was a bit confused by Viper's insistence that you said you knew my play well.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

Nah, just saying it looks like you said I was doing nothing when I'd already started asking questions.

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No, I'm not sure where you saw that in my posts. I don't feel like I've commented much on your play at all.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

That's sort of what I got from it, yes. I was a bit confused by Viper's insistence that you said you knew my play well.

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Originally Posted by novice

Not particularly, I don't remember many specifics. I guess I have a (unverbalizable) mental model of what kind of player you are, and if you do something at odds with that I might react. But of course that could then just be an error in my model.

I have you stereotyped, I guess.

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This, the mention of having stereotyped you especially, implies he has enough experience from games with you to have enough knowledge of how you played for there to be bias.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

No, I'm not sure where you saw that in my posts. I don't feel like I've commented much on your play at all.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Looking forward to seeing when you start analyzing things though.

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Ok, I can't say that I necessarily agree with you or see the same things you see, but that might be due to different experiences. I do like that you're being thorough, and I think by keeping a steady line of questioning it'll ultimately make it really difficult for mafia to keep up. That being said, what I meant when I said I was looking forward to your analysis was that I was looking forward to seeing what you're getting from your line of questioning, and how you interpret the responses that you're given.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Ok, I can't say that I necessarily agree with you or see the same things you see, but that might be due to different experiences.

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Probably.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

I do like that you're being thorough, and I think by keeping a steady line of questioning it'll ultimately make it really difficult for mafia to keep up.

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I get the feeling you're in teacher mode and it's unintentionally condescending. It's still condescending. I have experience with this game and I know what I'm doing and why.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

That being said, what I meant when I said I was looking forward to your analysis was that I was looking forward to seeing what you're getting from your line of questioning, and how you interpret the responses that you're given.

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Fair enough, you can be assured I have gained, and expect I will get, things out of them.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

Vote: seireikhaan

I want to see how cranky he'll get.

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Csargo used taunt! It's a critical hit!
seireikhaan's anger point activated!


Back in my day we didn't have fancy schmancy things like "role reveals" or "information". We voted for people because they ate spicy meatballs and liked it! Nowadays everyone wants to push and shove and pull and prostrate. All you need to solve mafia is your gut and your heart and the Truth!

Vote: Novice for being on my lawn.

i like sooh as town, from the way she's getting involved in the discussion/argument/whatever

slight v lean on novice as well, perhaps gh too

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

I get the feeling you're in teacher mode and it's unintentionally condescending. It's still condescending. I have experience with this game and I know what I'm doing and why.


Fair enough, you can be assured I have gained, and expect I will get, things out of them.

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By all means. It couldn't have just been a compliment of your style and a town lean.

I sense that novice is posting from his Pokédex.

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Originally Posted by novice

Poisonous snakes are only a problem to people planning to eat them.

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What do you think Pokeymans eat out in the wild?

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Originally Posted by Sooh

By all means. It couldn't have just been a compliment of your style and a town lean.

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People read things differently from different positions, like you said. All I'm saying is that it can be read like that and I'd assure you others would have that interpretation too.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

People read things differently from different positions, like you said. All I'm saying is that it can be read like that and I'd assure you others would have that interpretation too.

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Well it probably won't be a very nice game if you want to interpret everything the worst way possible.

If I sound "teachery" or condescending, that's not the intention. I've never had that problem before with people interpreting me that way, but since you do I assume there could be something lost in translation.

All right, maybe we should all enjoy the game and quietly backstab everybody else during the night phase?

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Originally Posted by novice

To elaborate, either you're filling the thread with stuff you deem pointless, or you were shading me when you called it pointless.

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Alignment question was pointless. Leads nowhere. Everything else I'll humor.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

Related question mainly out of curiosity: If you think you have one wolf caught, do you go for the throat right away even if it gets you killed, or wait and try to find/case more suspects/catch other wolves before you charge?

And why does this sound like a long way to say "I believe in basic active town tactics?" Sounds like you're lecturing, why?

(Also, which gens have you played and which is your favorite? favorite 'mon from each gen/overall?)

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I was ranting. About the game last year with Golden. Where I tunneled because he scared of dying. Out of my system. For now.

I like going for the wolf when I see it, damn the consequences. But I also tend to self doubt and wait till sure. The wait and team theory build is impressive. But takes a more confident analyst than me. First blood helps that anyway with a solid evidence. Do you actually want me to share the gen thing? I can, but it'd be spammy. But it's been awhile and want to socialize.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

So, my first thought was that novice is a bit scummy for pushing the "everyone needs to give me your own descriptions of your playstyles" thing just a bit too hard, especially as he's been on this forum before and I don't recall him doing it when he was truly new (and town) to boot. There's a couple posts in there about ideal town strategy, etc, but that's pretty easy to fake as scum.

Sooh and Viper probably not aligned.

Vote: novice

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Novice seems too easy. His stop having fun guy style bristles, but neutral alignment-wise. Don't like seeing him die day 1 as yet.

Threads pretty unbalanced activity wise. Not sure what to make of that. I like Viper better than Sooh currently.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

I sense that novice is posting from his Pokédex.

What do you think Pokeymans eat out in the wild?

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Other pokemon.

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Originally Posted by Raith Kemmler

I like going for the wolf when I see it, damn the consequences. But I also tend to self doubt and wait till sure. The wait and team theory build is impressive. But takes a more confident analyst than me. First blood helps that anyway with a solid evidence. Do you actually want me to share the gen thing? I can, but it'd be spammy. But it's been awhile and want to socialize.

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I like this, town always could use someone itching to go for the throat but also willing to take some time to think about things.
And nah, that was meant as a little side comment back when the game was just starting, I think it's too far along now to go that far off-topic.

Speaking of game relevance, what do you think of GH and Barto?

I've got nothing on Bart. Never do Day 1. Shoot in midgame if no wolves caught. Maybe shoot anyway. Bart's more a, he looks hairy if paired with other people. People I've a better read on. He's easier to theory around.

GH's rational is weak, but! I assumed this was novice's first game here. Apparently not. Would like a summary of previous game meta. Novice is so active this might actually help. I rate GH as a bit shady.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Moving. How fun.

Good to see you though.

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Yeah moving sucks, but I bought a house, my first, so it is well worth it!

Me, I'm a lurker, especially in the early game, but come out with analysis in the late game that gets stronger over time. Basically, I'm a geodude spamming rollout.

vote:Montmorency

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Originally Posted by Raith Kemmler

I've got nothing on Bart. Never do Day 1. Shoot in midgame if no wolves caught. Maybe shoot anyway. Bart's more a, he looks hairy if paired with other people. People I've a better read on. He's easier to theory around.

GH's rational is weak, but! I assumed this was novice's first game here. Apparently not. Would like a summary of previous game meta. Novice is so active this might actually help. I rate GH as a bit shady.

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‘Theory’ is not a verb and ‘rational’ is not a noun, but that's Lisa's shtick. What is this ‘shoot in midgame if no wolves caught’ thing?

And if you think GH is shady then join me in voting him.

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

Yeah moving sucks, but I bought a house, my first, so it is well worth it!

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How many tiles?

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Originally Posted by autolycus

Me, I'm a lurker, especially in the early game, but come out with analysis in the late game that gets stronger over time. Basically, I'm a geodude spamming rollout.

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What a convenient claim to the effect that ‘don't lynch me for a few days’.

Barto, you've played enough with me to know it's the truth. My analyses aren't right, but I do tend to pick up the activity once we enter the mid-game.

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Originally Posted by novice

Hello, everybody. I'm novice, a townie, and I hail from the Realms Beyond forums, where I have about 40 games under my belt. I'm the inquisitive detective kind of player.

There are some unfamiliar faces here, so if people can reciprocate with two words about their background, experience, style and alignment that would be great.

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Fucking perfect.



ALSO HI FRIENDS I'M HERE

welp ded thread


anyway, all i did was ctrl f my name.

You guys need to talk about me more that was boring.

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Originally Posted by Manasi

Fucking perfect.



ALSO HI FRIENDS I'M HERE

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It honestly took me a while to understand this...

Novice looks okay, slight town lean on him right now.

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Originally Posted by Manasi

welp ded thread


anyway, all i did was ctrl f my name.

You guys need to talk about me more that was boring.

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Okay, I'll talk about you.

Unvote, Vote: Manasi

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Originally Posted by Raith Kemmler

Seems pointless but will humor.

Alignment? Pointless question.

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Originally Posted by Raith Kemmler

Alignment question was pointless. Leads nowhere. Everything else I'll humor.

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Well, you said "seems pointless" about the entire request.

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Originally Posted by Raith Kemmler

GH's rational is weak, but! I assumed this was novice's first game here. Apparently not. Would like a summary of previous game meta. Novice is so active this might actually help. I rate GH as a bit shady.

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I can (vaguely) remember three games. First game I was town, followed a few mislynches led by scum pizza, then got mislynched by him. Town lost. Second game I was scum and we won with three scum and three town remaining, and me being widely townread almost until the end. Third game I subbed in as town on day three, tunneled on scum pizza, and got nightkilled quickly. You'd need to read the games for more details.

Sorry if I come across as a killjoy, I'm enjoying the game and find myself smiling while playing it.

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Originally Posted by Manasi

You guys need to talk about me more that was boring.

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Okay, enough about me, let's talk about you. What do you think about me?

That's a joke though, I'm probably taking up too much thread space already.

I don't know what's going on. Just tell me who scans type.

Or Vote: novice gets it.

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

Novice looks okay, slight town lean on him right now.



Okay, I'll talk about you.

Unvote, Vote: Manasi

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Ay go pick on someone your own size.

Voting on != talking about.


PLZ.

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Originally Posted by Manasi

welp ded thread


anyway, all i did was ctrl f my name.

You guys need to talk about me more that was boring.

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I'm awake.
Hi, this post is about you, morning/noon/whichever it is, hope you're doing well.
Now talk about the people who've posted relevant content so far?

Viper, Sooh, anybody else who might have started playing - What do you think of GH's vote on me?

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Originally Posted by novice

Okay, enough about me, let's talk about you.

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I couldn't last long, lol.

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Originally Posted by novice

Viper, Sooh, anybody else who might have started playing - What do you think of GH's vote on me?

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It's bad.

Will list players in a rough order with some thoughts at the 24 hour mark since I'm occasionally strangely obsessed with timing.

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

Yeah moving sucks, but I bought a house, my first, so it is well worth it!

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Oh! Congratulations! That's exciting then!

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Originally Posted by novice

Viper, Sooh, anybody else who might have started playing - What do you think of GH's vote on me?

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Easy, but it's early game. I'm more interested in his response to my question.

Last 9ish hours have been slow though. Manasi in with no thoughts on anyone, which is kind of surprising to me.
Monty, Choxorn, Csargo and Autolycus about where I would expect them to be at this time in the game. A few joke/poke votes and a lean or two on players. GH's fairly long first post had some odd conclusions that I hope he can get back to.

I currently feel quite good about Novice and Severing Viper. Both are slight town leans. El Barto too, but I suspect I feel that way just because I enjoy playing with him. No solid reasons yet.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

GH's fairly long first post had some odd conclusions that I hope he can get back to.

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Ah yes, this question does need answering.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Why would you say that? Is it unthinkable to you that we're both town already? Who is the scum then?

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eh, I missed the 24 hour mark
Thoughts if/where I have them.

Actually contributing:
Raith Kemmler - Good posts, providing both responses to questions and unprompted thoughts
El Barto - fair mix of fluff and content, decent comments
Novice - +Good attempts to spark discussion and respond to the results -somewhat weird posts/interactions in regard to Sooh?
choxorn

Sooh - Talkative and friendly, fair amount of fluff giving her second highest post count. Quick to assume an unknown player is new(ish?) to the game? Mostly has responded to content directed at or that mentions her so far. reads post is okay.


GeneralHankerchief - "My first thought was that novice looks a little scummy for pushing everyone to talk about themselves, especially since he's not new here and didn't do this back when he was, my second was that Sooh and Viper probably aren't aligned. votes novice" ???


Not really contributing yet:
Jabbz - busy with moving
Cuthillius - weak disengaged handful of thoughts
Seireikhaan
Logic
Champ
Csargo - top poster of fluff and fireworks
Manasi - what
Montmorency
Autolycus - Posting about probably not having much to post for a while, nice.

No data:
BSmith

Vote: GeneralHandkerchief

My suspicion on novice isn't that he made the post, it's that he made the post when, IIRC, he doesn't really have a known baseline of doing so. Not strange in general but it's strange for him. IIRC in Zack's game for example you just started going with thread flow right away.

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As for my "Sooh/Viper not aligned comment" I mean precisely that; I don't think they're scumming together. Not definitively locking in an exact combination of both their roles, just ruling one of them out. Gun to my head if one of them's scum it's more likely to be Viper than Sooh atm but I have them as both town so far.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

I don't know what's going on. Just tell me who scans type.

Or Vote: novice gets it.

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Scans type?
Are you asking for someone to tell you what to think?

Also, there are two joke votes on novice too many right now, I think.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

My suspicion on novice isn't that he made the post, it's that he made the post when, IIRC, he doesn't really have a known baseline of doing so. Not strange in general but it's strange for him. IIRC in Zack's game for example you just started going with thread flow right away.

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As for my "Sooh/Viper not aligned comment" I mean precisely that; I don't think they're scumming together. Not definitively locking in an exact combination of both their roles, just ruling one of them out. Gun to my head if one of them's scum it's more likely to be Viper than Sooh atm but I have them as both town so far.

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Understood. I take it he has no history of trying to guide the flow either?

Ah, so it was just a matter of getting confused by phrasing. I tend to read "my first thought" as implying you had that thought, but have rejected/modified it, and I assume novice had the same interpretation in mind when he asked what your second thought was.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

Ah, so it was just a matter of getting confused by phrasing. I tend to read "my first thought" as implying you had that thought, but have rejected/modified it, and I assume novice had the same interpretation in mind when he asked what your second thought was.

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What did you mean by "my first thought"? I'd like to see your response before I unvote.

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Originally Posted by Manasi

Ay go pick on someone your own size.

Voting on != talking about.


PLZ.

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What do you mean, voting you doesn't count as talking about you? I said something, and you responded. Seems like a conversation to me.

Hi I'm here
Was dead yesterday

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Originally Posted by Manasi

Fucking perfect.



ALSO HI FRIENDS I'M HERE

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Watch yo profamity

This day 1 culture is different than mu

GH, in what way was I pushing it though?

And when you say that Sooh and Viper are not aligned, and you mean exactly that, that excludes them towning together also, right?

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Originally Posted by Champ

This day 1 culture is different than mu

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How is the MU day 1 culture?

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

My suspicion on novice isn't that he made the post, it's that he made the post when, IIRC, he doesn't really have a known baseline of doing so. Not strange in general but it's strange for him. IIRC in Zack's game for example you just started going with thread flow right away.

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As for my "Sooh/Viper not aligned comment" I mean precisely that; I don't think they're scumming together. Not definitively locking in an exact combination of both their roles, just ruling one of them out. Gun to my head if one of them's scum it's more likely to be Viper than Sooh atm but I have them as both town so far.

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First: Would you say your suspicion on Novice is a strong one?

Second: Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by seireikhaan

Csargo used taunt! It's a critical hit!
seireikhaan's anger point activated!


Back in my day we didn't have fancy schmancy things like "role reveals" or "information". We voted for people because they ate spicy meatballs and liked it! Nowadays everyone wants to push and shove and pull and prostrate. All you need to solve mafia is your gut and your heart and the Truth!

Vote: Novice for being on my lawn.

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@seireikhaan
You object to my playstyle, is that it?
How am I on your lawn? Are you sharing a lawn with someone?

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Originally Posted by novice

Well, you said "seems pointless" about the entire request.

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I kind of wanted to hear Raith's riposte to this before moving my vote, but I don't think he can convince me to keep voting him anyway. I quite liked the rest of his post 117.

GH is the only active player that's pinged me the wrong way, so he gets my vote for now, even if it is a bit OMGUS.

Vote: GeneralHandkerchief

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Originally Posted by novice

Hi Logic! Pity I don't know you well enough to insert a joke here about high school, poke and debut.

Are you a deductive kind of player then?

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I'd like to think so.

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Originally Posted by novice

Because, GH, I haven't pushed that thing at all. I asked politely, once, in the opening post. The only post where I'm even close to pushing it is in post 45 in a direct response to Viper, and there I said that it was mainly a conversation starter. A multitude of players ignored my request without me complaining. I'm even voting for Raith Kemmler because he answered my request!

I've never played with these players before:
Logic
Champ
Manasi
SeveringViper
Csargo (I don't think?)
Autolycus
Raith Kemmler

So I figured it was a reasonable conversation starter. Which also might draw a scummy vote like the one you just made.

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I've only played one game on this forum before, and I recognize a handful of the players from that game in this one. Unless you've played on the Playground in the last 3 years, no one has played a game with me before.

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Originally Posted by seireikhaan

Csargo used taunt! It's a critical hit!
seireikhaan's anger point activated!


Back in my day we didn't have fancy schmancy things like "role reveals" or "information". We voted for people because they ate spicy meatballs and liked it! Nowadays everyone wants to push and shove and pull and prostrate. All you need to solve mafia is your gut and your heart and the Truth!

Vote: Novice for being on my lawn.

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seirekhaan feels like he might be teamed with Csargo here. It's not much, but that is what I get out of this. Of course, this could be completely wrong, depending on their level of familiarity with each other. The Novice vote seems a bit forced.

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

Yeah moving sucks, but I bought a house, my first, so it is well worth it!

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Congratz! I just did the same almost 2 years ago. Still not completely unpacked. Several boxes of D&D books and the like.

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Originally Posted by autolycus

Me, I'm a lurker, especially in the early game, but come out with analysis in the late game that gets stronger over time. Basically, I'm a geodude spamming rollout.

vote:Montmorency

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This seems odd. I can't pinpoint why this seems odd, but I don't get this.

hey manasi

hey champ

do either of you have any new and exciting takes?

wrt the novice discussion, i have a hard time seeing it as directly wolfy that he, theoretically, rands scum and consciously decides to ask people about what their meta is like

like simplest solution there is that he wasn't talking to the org people, but to the rest of the new people, and thus the reason he didn't do it the first time is because he didn't know anyone and didn't feel as comfortable in the environment

i wouldn't say it's particularly towny, but i really don't think it's ai

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Last 9ish hours have been slow though. Manasi in with no thoughts on anyone, which is kind of surprising to me.
Monty, Choxorn, Csargo and Autolycus about where I would expect them to be at this time in the game. A few joke/poke votes and a lean or two on players. GH's fairly long first post had some odd conclusions that I hope he can get back to.

I currently feel quite good about Novice and Severing Viper. Both are slight town leans. El Barto too, but I suspect I feel that way just because I enjoy playing with him. No solid reasons yet.

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i'm not particularly used to manasi dropping a ton of reads when she comes into thread, have you played with her in long games when she's done this?

talk to me about chox, please

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Originally Posted by Logic

I've only played one game on this forum before, and I recognize a handful of the players from that game in this one. Unless you've played on the Playground in the last 3 years, no one has played a game with me before.

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I must be misreading this. Have you played with a handful of us already, or haven't you?

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Originally Posted by Logic

seirekhaan feels like he might be teamed with Csargo here. It's not much, but that is what I get out of this. Of course, this could be completely wrong, depending on their level of familiarity with each other. The Novice vote seems a bit forced.

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Yeah, I also thought the vote seemed a bit forced and possibly part of a greater scheme, hence my lawn question.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

My suspicion on novice isn't that he made the post, it's that he made the post when, IIRC, he doesn't really have a known baseline of doing so. Not strange in general but it's strange for him. IIRC in Zack's game for example you just started going with thread flow right away.

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do you think it was a subconscious decision or do you really think he came into thread as scum and thought "hm let's shake things up"

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Originally Posted by novice

I must be misreading this. Have you played with a handful of us already, or haven't you?

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Just once. I think.


About GH. Tell me.