I think I am gonna TR Tim for wanting Csargo's head. (I am going to ignore the fact he wants them all for the time being, he made a seperate post for Csargo which feels about right)
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I think I am gonna TR Tim for wanting Csargo's head. (I am going to ignore the fact he wants them all for the time being, he made a seperate post for Csargo which feels about right)
Whose thread?
Thread's dead baby
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where we're going we don't need threadsQuote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
Rask is town
I think you're wrong
It seems quite abstract from pzelda , he starts reading wolf based on nothing. D1 reads seems quite out of place to me .
Panda towny
alright, this makes some sense to me then. I didn't get a feeling of disappointment from your posts, more H Y P E, but :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
You're pretty neutral, I don't really have a read on you either. feel like pzelda's take is about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
So: early reads...these are obviously subject to development, but will be decisive. Nulls are for wimps.
Argon: in first, claims cop, claims ridiculous n0 check on me, uses avatar basically open referencing that he is a wolf...just another day in the life for him...if he is a wolf he has partners and at least some of those partners would be saying "WTF dude?" because they don't know him. No sign of that discomfort; Argon town.
Chessguy: lots of posts, creates image of "let's get started" by picking at gif posters but doesn't say anything really, overeager to be read on this; probs just a wolf.
Csargo: throwing them gif, but a LOT of them, then shifted to words and stayed overbusy for Csargo; probs a wolf.
Raskol: Emphasizing "disappointed by the rand" which is code for "I claim village," doesn't mention me until he finds a way to be agreeable instead of challenging immediately so trying to stay off radar; probs a wolf.
Dolby: meaningless paragoning of Argon, early read of Chessguy that I disagree with, challenged and stuck to it in a good way. Town.
Hollowkatt: comes in swinging to draw attention, early targeting on Raskol so reval as potential w/w there, seems to be worried about me an appropriate amount. Town
Nanook: enters by establishing slanker cred, immediately threatens to kill the person that helps him. Town
Winston: entry by Hardclaim, no additional posts. lean town
Lewynn: entry is softballed off previous post, but second post indicates reading of full thread, then back to softballing off another entry. Probs wolf
Pzelda: opens with a developed reads post which he just got wolf bombed for last time I saw him and he didn't get bombed for it here. May just have done a better job of it, but... Probs just town.
Panda: points out Pzeldas read post as unique, which is accurate, but wolfs it just for that without challenging the reads. Wolf
Many not posted yet. Gnome, Ibn, Laurentus, El, Vro...get your stuff together.
I'm not sure about that. I actually find his later posts wolfy. They're a stretch of four posts, which could be one. It looks like activity for activity's sake. I like HK's reaction to this post of yours and I think Csargo might be just Csargo again. At least that's where I'm at rn.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
Vote: Raskolnikov
you're paying a lot more attention than I am. Are you town? I just wanna sheepQuote:
Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin
It's five short pages. Don't be such a weakling.
Yes I'm town, but still.
Besides, there's an obvious flaw in my reads since five people haven't posted and I'm already at five wolves.
I see that as a feature, not a bugQuote:
Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin
I'm also incredibly lazy
Tim's reads are highly Tim-indicative.
That's a common posting style what are you talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I know you're not new to this mafia thing
There are a couple at least but nevermind that for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin
and wolfy bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
@c4: what did you find villagery in my posts?
vote: Winston Hughes
:duel:
Looked like you were fucking around first and foremost and doing town stuff second. Makes the town stuff look real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
Worth saying at this point that if this is a 10 pages day, wolves will have a blast.
I think what u bring up is smh NAI and meta dependant but OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
Has your read on Dolby evolved since yesterday?
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
HOST TALLY 1-1
Rask (3): Csargo, Hollow, Zelda
Borg (1): c4
c4 (1): Borg
Winston (1): Rask
Not Voting (11): Dolby, Winston, Tim, Gnome, Ibn, Lewwyn, Nanook, Laurentus, El-A, Vroendal, Panda
Movement
[Rask] Csargo >> Winston
You are all very far from the post cap, so don't feel constrained.
I really don't have much to go on other than we don't need to worry about Tim. My cop check on him has shown me that he will be mechanically a no factor.
spricht keiner von euch deutsch?
oder ist es so, dass meine Lügen mich eingeholt haben und niemand mehr etwas glaubt, was ich "hardclaim"?
vote: RaskolnikovQuote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
:charge:
Hi, I'm here. Are you town?Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
This feels like a very shy thread. Anyone could be a scummy scum scum. I read it all and am happily clueless.:help:
I also am without the clues, Queen Gnome. Maybe they all are scum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Gnome
That would be crazy if you and I were the only townies and everyone else was scum!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
It is 'slightly bastard' after all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Gnome
Fear not, though, we shall find a way to prevail, I am sure of it.
signs point to yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Garden Gnome
Thank you for letting me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
Who are your scum reads right now?
And who are your town reads?
Awesome! I have no fear of us being overwhelmed and crushed by the wicked scummy scum scums!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
other than Raskol I don't have any readsQuote:
Originally Posted by Garden Gnome
okay, that's fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
:/Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
Do I need to AtE selfvote for you to have a read on me?
why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Gnome
sure, but my read would be policy chop ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
hk can you put some words on that Rask read?
I have been keeping my eye on the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timsup2nothin
Don't know who to vote yet.
@Ibn-Khaldun strongest read in either direction gogogo
no, not really. It's a gut thing in the way that he was interacting earlier. If I had words I'd have said them already basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
Raskol isn't usually incredibly hype about his rand in my experience, unless he's randed with people he likes (as wolf) or he's got a solidly townie role.
He was super hype and had a lot of fun when Tim and I randed wolf with him, so when he says "tiddy bit disappointed with my rand" I'm not sure what to make of that.
I love randing town, VT specifically. I don't have to worry about play or whatever, I can just post, be free, and have fun. Randing wolf makes me nervous and tense, randing town PR has happened so infrequently that I can't really describe how it makes me feel.
Anyways, that's a lot of words to say "no, sorry"
hk is town
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Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
Don't think Rask is mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
Csargo could be one?
because of the lack of information in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
LA is a paragon, sorry I don't make the rules
fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
Not really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
this is bleh. Like, it feels like you're picking at the post for the reason that it happens to exist and that I gave the first read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
I feel mildly fine with him. Just vibesQuote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
I like Lewwyn for Lewwyn liking me for me liking Chessguy :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Lewwyn
Felt that I could get something in here but not really. I guess it's a good look that he's probably looking in the right spot for page 1, but as Pzelda says, not much to talk about yet. I guess I don't like that there's more scum potential than villa leans but w/e?Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I think that Tims has only really made declarative statements?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
Talk about these more plsQuote:
Originally Posted by CutePanda
BadQuote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
So here's my problem with Rask. It feels like he's mashing his mouthparts together and expecting something substantial to come out, but it's not. We've got his second sussing Csargo, that I was writing off as a joke until I saw this
literally everything Tims made at that point was declarative statements which didn't show any process, just an "ok I think that these three people are bad". He makes a "separate post" about Csargo which is all about him wanting to go full throttle for ??? reasons. I can write off the HK and Winston stuff as rask just doing whatever, but it feels like activity for activities sakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
We also have this
This is just asking a question for it's own sake. Why would c4 change his read on me? I hadn't posted sinceQuote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
ok. I thought your response was a little weird b/c I'm not used to people saying "oh, that's all you've got, ok" and then moving on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Gnome
Because it feels like reads that are super easy to toss into the thread that can be moved off of at any time. And also somewhat contradictory thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by DolbyLA is a paragon, sorry I don't make the rules
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkattkinda wanna wolf read you for thisQuote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
I think he's talking about my avatar there and nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolby
Not really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
Dolby is town thoSpoiler Alert, click show to read:
i didn't think chess squares person was frustrated at the lack of development of the thread, and just didn't like the gif posting, I could be assuming too much though.
that's the way it looked post your read, so I wondered if it changed anything for you Dolby.
Still got same vibe a bit on page 2 (I'm on 40 ppp)Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
i'll go back and read again, that's not really the vibe I got last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolby
it just felt like bantering with hkQuote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Wolf hk doesn't play to get townread. Wolf hk plays to win.
Wolf hk doesn't pass up the chance to keep shading me for being impatient. Wolf hk probably doesn't bother with trying to put on a stream of consciousness. Wolf hk probably doesn't need to hedge on Rask either; he doesn't push subtly. He'd just go for the kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
Also the stream of consciousness itself is towny. Lines up with hk getting pinged by the thing and having trouble articulating it. Lots of detail in the thoughts that isn't trivial to make up quickly. Shows an honest effort to put something on paper for his read, probably because he sees I'm impatient and doesn't want to antagonize me all game, or something like that. Wolf hk wants to antagonize me all game.
Gonna shield this for a while.
It is nice being town cop so I can be certain of my reads. So I can assure everyone don't worry about Tim.
While you're at it do you want to psychoanalyze me b/c holy fuck you're good lolQuote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5Wolf hk doesn't play to get townread. Wolf hk plays to win.
Wolf hk doesn't pass up the chance to keep shading me for being impatient. Wolf hk probably doesn't bother with trying to put on a stream of consciousness. Wolf hk probably doesn't need to hedge on Rask either; he doesn't push subtly. He'd just go for the kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowkattno, not really. It's a gut thing in the way that he was interacting earlier. If I had words I'd have said them already basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
Raskol isn't usually incredibly hype about his rand in my experience, unless he's randed with people he likes (as wolf) or he's got a solidly townie role.
He was super hype and had a lot of fun when Tim and I randed wolf with him, so when he says "tiddy bit disappointed with my rand" I'm not sure what to make of that.
I love randing town, VT specifically. I don't have to worry about play or whatever, I can just post, be free, and have fun. Randing wolf makes me nervous and tense, randing town PR has happened so infrequently that I can't really describe how it makes me feel.
Anyways, that's a lot of words to say "no, sorry"
Also the stream of consciousness itself is towny. Lines up with hk getting pinged by the thing and having trouble articulating it. Lots of detail in the thoughts that isn't trivial to make up quickly. Shows an honest effort to put something on paper for his read, probably because he sees I'm impatient and doesn't want to antagonize me all game, or something like that. Wolf hk wants to antagonize me all game.
Gonna shield this for a while.
100% in your pocket, I hope it's comfy
vote: BorgPicardQuote:
Originally Posted by BorgPicard
Hollowkat confirmed mafia. Why else would he vote for the town cop. Tim can confirm to you in your mafia chat that he is vanilla town and that my n0 peek is 100% legit.
:dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by BorgPicard
BorgPicard right now:Quote:
Originally Posted by BorgPicard
Attachment 24712
UGH WHY IS IT TINY
It converts it to an attachment, if it's from your pc. if it's a url you have to unclick the check boxQuote:
Originally Posted by hollowkatt
there is something impressively fake about this post. How can you be certain of your reads if you're town?Quote:
Originally Posted by BorgPicard
You still seem to have too much confidence. If everyone were to vote you, would that mean that everyone but you is mafia?Quote:
Originally Posted by BorgPicard
And now am I allowed to call this sad?
There's a postcap that's collecting dust.
probably so at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
I am town cop. Every night I get to choose a target and if they are mafia the message tells me. I trust the great messenger to tell the truth. So I get 100% certainty that my target is good or bad. That is why I am so confident. I get mechanic clearance unlike the the other town members who have to do things like meta reads or vote analysis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Gnome
I kind of like this from Rask, because HK calling himself lazy indeed is wolfy. Let's wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
Also, despite being fairly active and calling people towns, I can't find any reason to tr C4.
Winston and Gnome feel alright, maybe slightly mason-ish. ~;)
I am objectively playing the most pro-town of anyone right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
Did you see the hk read? Agree? Disagree? That's close to a lock for me.
Feels pretty legit to me both on hk and c4, feel better about both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5
What's wrong with c4? Do you have a specific problem with how they're posting?Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
For D1 I think they're a solid tl so far for me.
So you got a target before the game started?Quote:
Originally Posted by BorgPicard
Why claim so early?
Hmmmm, what about Winston makes you think he's tl? The interchange between winston and gnome has not really engendered anything beyond a null tell for me. I might even feel a bit of a woofy vibe.Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
It felt like a pretty honest interaction to me. Dolby reads c4 as being more frustrated by the slower speed of development of the thread, and I think it's a good read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskolnikov
Since then I think C4 has also leaned more town for me with his HK read, and Dolby has also continued to feel pretty townie, rather open and easy in manner.
BorgPicard, also known as LordArgon, is well known for claiming Cop D1 with his very first posts, and then maintaining that claim till he dies. He also plays with a lot of chutzpah and confidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Gnome
Basically this is NAI for him here. Still, kinda wanna do brutal day murder to him
You told Rask he looked village because he fucked around first and then did town stuff after. Do you still hold on that read for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5