Casual 9er Game Thread

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Like, obviously i'm memeing for the lolz (i am firmly on "i dont care anymore, gonna have fun SHOTS" on the chart atm) but if I wanna drop it for a sec i actually think hally is wolfy and i want to see if you picked up on why

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mum said its your turn to be bad cop

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Like, obviously i'm memeing for the lolz (i am firmly on "i dont care anymore, gonna have fun SHOTS" on the chart atm) but if I wanna drop it for a sec i actually think hally is wolfy and i want to see if you picked up on why

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wtf you’re not supposed to wolf read me until EoD

no head starts!

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

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is it something to with the way they've talked about barto? I don't generally care for these kind of guessing games (for various reasons)

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Originally Posted by Hally

wtf you’re not supposed to wolf read me until EoD

no head starts!

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what if i start wolfreading you now and then stop by eod!

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Originally Posted by Zack

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is it something to with the way they've talked about barto? I don't generally care for these kind of guessing games (for various reasons)

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boo

this is what i get for stepping out of meme mode for a post!

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

what if i start wolfreading you now and then stop by eod!

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that’s so much less of a rush

cfd me like a man

its because

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peepeepoopoo

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just dont like the way they've turned the whole "thought barto was wolfy, thought about voting him before the rp realization" into shade on mont while also defending themselves by saying they never pushed barto but also found him wolfy but its also nai now but also its kinda villagery. think it has w/w equity even!

also im low key mad hally didnt enjoy my pastas and will respond with a wolf read

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Originally Posted by Hally

that’s so much less of a rush

cfd me like a man

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"do it, cowards" didn't work out as well as i hoped in that turbo so dont tempt the fates with "cfd me like a man" lmao

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

its because

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peepeepoopoo

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just dont like the way they've turned the whole "thought barto was wolfy, thought about voting him before the rp realization" into shade on mont while also defending themselves by saying they never pushed barto but also found him wolfy but its also nai now but also its kinda villagery. think it has w/w equity even!

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wat?

i didn?t shade monty, i asked him questions, expressed confusion about his read and ended by saying he might be villagery

and i didn?t defend myself by saying i never pushed barto, i said i never pushed monty

i also never said barto was kinda villagery, i just disagreed with wolf reading him. monty was who i said might be villagery, not barto. barto is null to me.

i don?t think anything you said in this post is an accurate characterization of what i?ve posted lol

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

also im low key mad hally didnt enjoy my pastas and will respond with a wolf read

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i thanked the terminator one!

gonna be honest, i didn't have "lol nothing you said is accurate" to be the response and i dont really know what to do with that so ill just shrug and move on

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Originally Posted by Hally

i thanked the terminator one!

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you did! but the shower cutrain stuck to my leg so the fantasy was ruined

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

gonna be honest, i didn't have "lol nothing you said is accurate" to be the response and i dont really know what to do with that so ill just shrug and move on

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well it’s not? i’m not trying to be rude, just read my posts again please

i think you got your wires crossed because you said i said stuff about one of them that i actually said about the other

oh, i didnt think it was rude i just didnt know what to do with it if my entire understanding of what occurred was in question. aint no thing. probs *forcing* it anyways just because my brain cant just sit around and meme without trying to solve things and you're the person with the most game related posts and therefore im trying to scrutinize

ah okay

Hally wolf reads for that stuff seems like a skill issue iyam

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

Hally wolf reads for that stuff seems like a skill issue iyam

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:stupid:

Players Votes

Hally 2 (Hally, Zack)
Raskolnikov 1 (El Barto)

Hi I'm back from a party, catchup time.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

zack got the wolf chat update that game started 30 mins early :pensive:

i did too but i was scared to post

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Two town? We call this winning.

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

you merely adopted alienating people
i was born into it
molded by it
neither of my parents showed up for my birth

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At least there's always the platypus.

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

why does nobody ever make the joke about randing wolf with me? im a fun wolf chat partner!

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I didn't want to give away that we're actually wolves tho.

Players Votes

Hally 2 (Hally, Zack)
Raskolnikov 1 (El Barto)



just a test to see if i can auto textjoin a timer into the tallies

Oh I already solved the game.

But I decided to force myself to forget so I could have fun.

I hate my past self.

Meanwhile I'll give you guys a good hint:

One of the skill issuers is obvious town.

My job here is done.

*Flutters cape.*

Hello, gamers.

El Barto's #9 contains a pretty interesting part that looks like a slip but I'm pretty sure it's intentional. Not sure if AI.
El Barto’s #12 is similar.
El Barto’s #28 has this newbie energy and it feels weird. Is this someone new to mafia? Because all three of these posts read like forcefully trying to seem new and uninformed, but if they are genuinely new, then they are ??probably?? uninformed…? I don’t even really believe that when I type it out, #28 feels bad either way. Meh.

Liking Montmorency’s opener for calling out El Barto in #57, although the instant tying him to Sunbae feels somewhat bad. Liking Hally for questioning more or less the same issues I have with the post. Not too happy that Montmorency hasn’t posted since the original assessment of El Barto, waiting for more there.
@Montmorency What do you think about Hally/Zack/Sunbae’s argument over treatment of El Barto and partly over treatment of you?

Zack’s initial treatment of Hally feels uncharitable (#68), and Hally responds to it well (#70), but the later posts from Zack and Sunbae about Hally made me think again. Hally pretty much provides the same thoughts on page 3 as I would’ve provided in regards to Montmorency and El Barto, I can’t reasonably call it wolfy when I more or less feel the same way about it. I feel like someone’s definitely being uncharitable here (Zack or Hally), but I don’t know yet which one and I can’t say they can’t both be villagers. If you put a gun to my head, I would currently say that both Zack and Sunbae portrayed Hally in a much more negative light than I believe them to deserve, and at least one of them probably did that on purpose. However, like I said, I'm not yet sure.

Sunbae actually feels somewhat wolfy independently from the shitposting, but I currently can’t explain this beyond the gut level. #96 is the main post that made me believe this, but like I said, I can't exactly explain it at the moment. Leaving my vote there for now.

Vote: Sunbae

Oh, and I think Ender’s opener is slightly >rand town.

Nebjiamn feels rather muted at the moment, but I don't know if it's wolfy. Might be worth looking at the Hally/Zack/Sunbae argument later into the game if all three of them are villagers and nebjiamn is still alive (in that case, his mutedness could be interpreted as wanting to stay out of it because it's villagers arguing and that's good). He did have that one post about one of the people involved likely being town, which I thought was somewhat villagery, but yeah.

And yes, I know who nebjiamn is, but referring to them as "nebjiamn" is funnier.

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

Nebjiamn feels rather muted at the moment, but I don't know if it's wolfy. Might be worth looking at the Hally/Zack/Sunbae argument later into the game if all three of them are villagers and nebjiamn is still alive (in that case, his mutedness could be interpreted as wanting to stay out of it because it's villagers arguing and that's good). He did have that one post about one of the people involved likely being town, which I thought was somewhat villagery, but yeah.

And yes, I know who nebjiamn is, but referring to them as "nebjiamn" is funnier.

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muted is a pretty fair assessment. i'm not really keen on spitting out a bunch of reads here until everyone checks in and starts posting AI things because i think i do a much better job of sorting out my poe in 9ers when i have the full picture.

the last thing i want to do itg is make a casual observation that i thought someone was wolfy for X and have that be the topic of conversation for the day or at least one ofthe big focal points before others have to come in and generate other content. and i realize me not doing so just means other people will do it instead, and people will focus on those points instead, but i'm ok with that since i feel like i'll be able to discern intentions from that a little easier by being detached from it

having said that it looks like everyone but rask is here so i'll add on that i think sunbae hs come off a bit wolfy to me as well.

i think his memes went on a teeny bit longer than i expected they would. plus the way he piggybacked on hally and presented it to zack in a "hey guess what i think hally's a wolf too, but guess why" felt a bit performative and pocket-y to zack and also less focused on solving hally's alignment and more about gaining favor for sharing the read. plus i thought it was kind of silly when he actually revealed his reasoning that it was, afaict, basically the exact same reason zack had already given, so the nuance of his read seemed almost made up

and ill piggyback off that post to say i think the way zack came about that read felt villagery and very similar to how he was poking people day 1 in the last org game i played, in particular the way he prodded ladd and questioned him but never made it a humongous deal. similar vibes here

Vote: Vulgard

for the crime of being incorrect in a game of mafia

how do you plead?

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i think his memes went on a teeny bit longer than i expected they would.

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oh you are NOT gonna like the way i play this game then lol

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

Vote: Vulgard

for the crime of being incorrect in a game of mafia

how do you plead?

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Is that the only reason you're voting me, or is there something else?

@ nebjiamn all noted and fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

oh you are NOT gonna like the way i play this game then lol

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https://i.imgur.com/GcEC7dH.png

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

Hello, gamers.

El Barto's #9 contains a pretty interesting part that looks like a slip but I'm pretty sure it's intentional. Not sure if AI.
El Barto?s #12 is similar.
El Barto?s #28 has this newbie energy and it feels weird. Is this someone new to mafia? Because all three of these posts read like forcefully trying to seem new and uninformed, but if they are genuinely new, then they are ??probably?? uninformed?? I don?t even really believe that when I type it out, #28 feels bad either way. Meh.

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not sure if you missed where it was clarified he was roleplaying a newbie?

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Liking Montmorency?s opener for calling out El Barto in #57, although the instant tying him to Sunbae feels somewhat bad. Liking Hally for questioning more or less the same issues I have with the post. Not too happy that Montmorency hasn?t posted since the original assessment of El Barto, waiting for more there.
@Montmorency What do you think about Hally/Zack/Sunbae?s argument over treatment of El Barto and partly over treatment of you?

Zack?s initial treatment of Hally feels uncharitable (#68), and Hally responds to it well (#70), but the later posts from Zack and Sunbae about Hally made me think again. Hally pretty much provides the same thoughts on page 3 as I would?ve provided in regards to Montmorency and El Barto, I can?t reasonably call it wolfy when I more or less feel the same way about it. I feel like someone?s definitely being uncharitable here (Zack or Hally), but I don?t know yet which one and I can?t say they can?t both be villagers. If you put a gun to my head, I would currently say that both Zack and Sunbae portrayed Hally in a much more negative light than I believe them to deserve, and at least one of them probably did that on purpose. However, like I said, I'm not yet sure.

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your read on me feels so word salady

first you say you like that i questioned monty for the same issues you had, and you say zack was uncharitable towards me and i responded well, so at this point you like my posts. but then you say zack and sunbae made you think again? i don?t get why. zack came away from our exchange with the same impression as you ? that my response was good ? and sunbae got things wrong in my posts, i pointed them out and then he dropped his read, so all of that should be a wash and you should still like my posts, right?

i also don?t like how you say i gave the same thoughts as you had on monty and bart and you ?can?t reasonably call it wolfy.? okay, so don?t? the wording you?re using makes it sound like you were hoping you could wolf read me, but if you like my thoughts and think my response to pressure was good why don?t you just town read me? i don?t get why you?re hedging so much with this ?i feel like someone is being uncharitable but idk who??? gth not hally??? it doesn?t really follow from what you?ve said.

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Sunbae actually feels somewhat wolfy independently from the shitposting, but I currently can?t explain this beyond the gut level. #96 is the main post that made me believe this, but like I said, I can't exactly explain it at the moment. Leaving my vote there for now.

Vote: Sunbae

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ooo, this is spicy though

i came away from my exchange with sunbae with a gut wolf read too, so kinda curious if you can put your feeling into words

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Oh, and I think Ender?s opener is slightly >rand town.

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why?

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

Is that the only reason you're voting me, or is there something else?

@ nebjiamn all noted and fair enough.

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its just more fun to keep it light/goofy as my reason instead of get into a whole thing about how i think pretty much everyone has been unhappy with how ive posted so far, shaded me (lightly or heavily) for it, which makes me a pretty good target for a wolf to come in and drop a long text string about the game and end with a vote on me, you came in and did exactly that, and i squint in your general direction for it. because if i get into a whole thing about it i end up in an actual werewolf back and forth and, well, i do not wish to do that.

so instead you get "for the crime of being incorrect in a mafia game" and i go about my day continuing to mess around and meme with people

idk why the site keeps converting all my punctuation to question marks

hope it’s still legible

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Originally Posted by Hally

idk why the site keeps converting all my punctuation to question marks

hope it’s still legible

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its because you're phone posting

no meme

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

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speaking of which, one of the reasons i read hally v for those earlier interactions was because i noticed she was pposting from phone due to the ?s and i felt her responses both tonally and time-wise felt very pure for someone who was phoenposting which is known to inhibit both of those things quite a bit

inb4 hally's on an ipad and this is always how she posts in ww games

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

speaking of which, one of the reasons i read hally v for those earlier interactions was because i noticed she was pposting from phone due to the ?s and i felt her responses both tonally and time-wise felt very pure for someone who was phoenposting which is known to inhibit both of those things quite a bit

inb4 hally's on an ipad and this is always how she posts in ww games

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It?s a good read. I?ve always thought those that phone post with good tonne are likely to be town

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

having said that it looks like everyone but rask is here so i'll add on that i think sunbae hs come off a bit wolfy to me as well.

i think his memes went on a teeny bit longer than i expected they would. plus the way he piggybacked on hally and presented it to zack in a "hey guess what i think hally's a wolf too, but guess why" felt a bit performative and pocket-y to zack and also less focused on solving hally's alignment and more about gaining favor for sharing the read. plus i thought it was kind of silly when he actually revealed his reasoning that it was, afaict, basically the exact same reason zack had already given, so the nuance of his read seemed almost made up

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yeah, agreed

i also didn’t like how after i corrected him on getting some things wrong in my posts he just left it there, whereas i feel like if v!sunbae had a wolf read on me he felt good about and then i told him he was mixing stuff up in my posts he would go back, read them again and then say “alright, after rereading my read on hally is now X”

something something lacking villagery curiosity

i just wonder if w!him found someone he thought he could push convincingly then was caught off guard by how i responded so he got stuck and just dropped it

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

and ill piggyback off that post to say i think the way zack came about that read felt villagery and very similar to how he was poking people day 1 in the last org game i played, in particular the way he prodded ladd and questioned him but never made it a humongous deal. similar vibes here

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:yes:

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

It?s a good read. I?ve always thought those that phone post with good tonne are likely to be town

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lol

ok you won me over

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

its because you're phone posting

no meme

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it seems to only happen when i do “go advanced” so maybe i just won’t do that lol

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Originally Posted by Hally

it seems to only happen when i do “go advanced” so maybe i just won’t do that lol

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oh true, advanced mode is only for those with frontal cortexes. those characters are locked down for us simpletons hence the ?s

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

speaking of which, one of the reasons i read hally v for those earlier interactions was because i noticed she was pposting from phone due to the ?s and i felt her responses both tonally and time-wise felt very pure for someone who was phoenposting which is known to inhibit both of those things quite a bit

inb4 hally's on an ipad and this is always how she posts in ww games

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lol ipad, i’m not bop :wowee:

unfortunately i must inform you that i exclusively phone post in every single game i play lol

benneh is a VILLAGER

(or pocketing me :stare:)

If I could explain my reads better then I would.

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Originally Posted by Hally

unfortunately i must inform you that i exclusively phone post in every single game i play lol

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...4/196/sign.jpg

vote: vulgard

:party3:

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

If I could explain my reads better then I would.

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I've decided I can help explain your read on me

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https://i.imgur.com/XmdAHih.png

side note: if at some point i cross the threshold from memey/jokey to obnoxious just lmk

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Originally Posted by Hally

vote: vulgard

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Is this just because I didn't answer any of your questions, or just a follow-up to what you said about me before?

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

lol

ok you won me over

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If I said I have <slight concerns> about the team actually being you/zack based on the way he didn't want to actually talk to me about werewolf stuff when I finally started talking about things for a second, the way you accused me of pocketing him, and then took another post to talk about why he was villagery all while others were expressing skepticism of me already (as in, its a good spot to make zack look good today while people are skeptical on me) would you say:

a. bad read
b. makes sense but wrong
c. stick to the memes you clearly aren't in your werewolf mood yet
d. actually correct but you'll never believe me if i say this

thats supposed to say mild concerns but it eats my arrow brackets

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

Is this just because I didn't answer any of your questions, or just a follow-up to what you said about me before?

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both i guess?

i think your wallpost (specifically wrt me) was kinda wolfy and that’s why i’m voting you

you could help me see why it’s not by engaging with me and answering my questions but i’m not voting you for not doing that

sunbae where’s your head at on me and why?

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

If I said I have <slight concerns=""> about the team actually being you/zack based on the way he didn't want to actually talk to me about werewolf stuff when I finally started talking about things for a second, the way you accused me of pocketing him, and then took another post to talk about why he was villagery all while others were expressing skepticism of me already (as in, its a good spot to make zack look good today while people are skeptical on me) would you say:

a. bad read
b. makes sense but wrong
c. stick to the memes you clearly aren't in your werewolf mood yet
d. actually correct but you'll never believe me if i say this

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D for sure</slight>

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Originally Posted by Hally

both i guess?

i think your wallpost (specifically wrt me) was kinda wolfy and that’s why i’m voting you

you could help me see why it’s not by engaging with me and answering my questions but i’m not voting you for not doing that

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I don't know how to answer your questions.

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Originally Posted by Vulgard

I don't know how to answer your questions.

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what specifically are you struggling to answer?

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

D for sure

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Real answer is mkre along the lines of: not a terrible thought but probably too sunbae centric for you to develop a good/accurate read on the solve for the game. If the wolf read was on vulgard instead of you how does that shape your read on me / zack? Why can’t I just be a villager with a correct or incorrect read on Zack and a wolf read on you? Why does Zack get joined onto a team with me just because of my interactions?

like, it’s an elaborate thought in a way but I don’t believe you believe it regardless of your alignment l

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Originally Posted by Hally

what specifically are you struggling to answer?

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It's yet another one of these scenarios where I post something in the earlygame, people ask me questions about it, and I don't know how to answer them because I have no idea how I arrived at any of my conclusions. If I had something concrete to tell you, then I would, but the issue is that I don't feel like I have anything concrete to latch onto at the moment. So I just posted whatever was on my mind, without thinking too hard about how it sounded.

See, I know that you'll probably find this response underwhelming, but that's why I didn't want to answer your questions in the first place. I can't.

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Originally Posted by Hally

first you say you like that i questioned monty for the same issues you had, and you say zack was uncharitable towards me and i responded well, so at this point you like my posts. but then you say zack and sunbae made you think again? i don?t get why. zack came away from our exchange with the same impression as you ? that my response was good ? and sunbae got things wrong in my posts, i pointed them out and then he dropped his read, so all of that should be a wash and you should still like my posts, right?

i also don?t like how you say i gave the same thoughts as you had on monty and bart and you ?can?t reasonably call it wolfy.? okay, so don?t? the wording you?re using makes it sound like you were hoping you could wolf read me, but if you like my thoughts and think my response to pressure was good why don?t you just town read me? i don?t get why you?re hedging so much with this ?i feel like someone is being uncharitable but idk who??? gth not hally??? it doesn?t really follow from what you?ve said.

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Say, this. I don't know why I didn't townread you in that post. I just didn't.
I don't know why Zack and Sunbae dissecting your posts made me look at them after initially liking them. I just did.

There's really no deeper explanation.

And in regards to my Ender read, well. I thought it was kinda towny that he came in just to post three times with nothing significant and leave. Although that's not exactly solid reasoning, obviously.

I guess I can say that I wasn't "hoping" to wolfread you. I initially liked your posts, then I saw Zack and Sunbae talk about them and I went "hey, maybe I shouldn't be townreading Hally, maybe I'll agree with them after re-reading Hally's posts with these thoughts in mind." Then I re-read them and went "eh."

Idk if this was helpful in the slightest but there you go.

thanks, it was kinda helpful yeah

unvote: vul

meh

Now I just have to do this with the seven other players in this game and I will become an IC.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

I expect Bart to maintain a certain consistency or plausibility.

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Wasn't me, I didn't do it.

OK, here's my case for today:

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

You had me at bunday

https://i.imgur.com/ymSptkr.png

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First your try to pocket me.

Bunday is tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand why Hally is a wolf. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical RP most of the jokes will go over a typical poster's head. There's also Hally's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into their characterisation- their personal mafia philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The MU elite understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about MAFIA. As a consequence people who are confused by Hally truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Hally's existential catchphrase "NO BULLI" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Hally's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ?

And yes, by the way, i DO have a buttercup tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the champs finalists' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid ?

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You post a bunch of nonsense but also you go on and on about elite intellectual capacity, which you imply is necessary for understanding jokes, and then misspell ?personal? as ?personnel?, which is both a crime against grammar and just unfunny.

tl;dr your tone is very much off to me.

vote: Sunbae

That said, I am now reading that Vulgard made a post in which he actually tried to post some reads and itnerpret the threads and voted for Sunbae.
To which Sunbae replies with what mafiawiki says is an OMGUS vote: ?I vote you because you're voting me?.

And then on the next page Hally, who was the leader until then, switched her vote to both take herself off the lead and put the accuser Vulgard into the #1 (n?mero uno) place.
So I'm happy to make it a tie between you two, because I'm sure that between you, Hally and Vulgard there must be one mafiat.

Now I'm off to play videogames. Byeeee!

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Originally Posted by Hally

idk why the site keeps converting all my punctuation to question marks

hope it?s still legible

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OOC post: I posted a few days ago in this thread that I've been having the same issue, I'm not sure what's going on. Perhaps another post from you could help grab the admins' attention.

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And then on the next page Hally, who was the leader until then, switched her vote to both take herself off the lead and put the accuser Vulgard into the #1 (n?mero uno) place.
So I'm happy to make it a tie between you two, because I'm sure that between you, Hally and Vulgard there must be one mafiat.

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Wait! On the new page Hally unvoted Vulgard. Let's make it Vulgard v. Sunbae.

btw where *is* Raskolnikov? I'm not liking his absence at all.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

You have no reads? No ISO?

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@El Barto can you explain why your said this and what you meant?

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Originally Posted by El Barto

OOC post: I posted a few days ago in this thread that I've been having the same issue, I'm not sure what's going on. Perhaps another post from you could help grab the admins' attention.

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no comment on the phone posting being criminal? :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Hally

unvote: vul

meh

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why did that change your mind? a bunch of posts and a thousand words to just say "idk vibes" afaict

hally and benneh seem reasonably villagy so far

Barros post where he voted sunbae hit some good tonal markers for him but some of his other posts (and lack of certain things) feels a bit off.

ender and monty - need to see more to have a real opinion, it was fine I guess

sunbae idk if I just gut disliked him calling me/benneh w/w because of my own narcissism, but I don't really care for it. :stare: I agree the way he dropped the hally stuff was a little strange.

vulgard is not really saying much of substance and he is using a lot of words to do it

rask ain't here :(