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Would have to assign road-attribute to the whole map in the summer, and let them disappear at winter?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
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Originally Posted by NeonGod
If not, there's probably no place to set this attribute or stat.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
Or worsen. It is possible, I assume, to create roads that actually force a penalty upon the user.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScionTheWorm
okay I know that snow (arctic) is a unique ground type. It may be possible to assign some type of penalty for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
I don't think it's possible to assign different movement speeds for some units. besides, I don't think it's relevant; in the game you probably won't need this speed as your army won't be totally made up of birkebeiners. and for the movement speed increase at winter because they're skiing; an army of thousands skiing? I can't see that this happened. and I don't know how much snow it was at this time, but at least it isn't that deep in our time all over northern europe the whole winter. I think only a fraction of the year and the continent should be penalized greatly. the same thing for the rivers.. they don't freeze easily.
and if I'm not heavily wrong, this is not the time of the little ice age (17th century I think)? how was the overall climate in compare with our time?
Well, it's said that it was warmer in the middle ages; it was one of the reasons that Greenland was as habitable as it was. As it became colder, the settlers there began to dwindle.
Do the Birkebeiners serve a purpose beyond that of a skiing infantry? If not, they wouldn't be that useful at all once the Nordic player decides to go south with his warriors. Were they supposed to move more quickly on the battlefield? Now that I think about it...why are they being included?
Yeah, good point, why the hell are they in the game?
As for travel time in winter, did it cross anyones mind why the campaigning seasion was after winter? Because of the increased rain which ruined roads, not because of snow. Armies on the march never went "off-road" they always stuck to roads (which were often mud) because it deosn't matter what time of year it is, unroded ground is always hard to cross.
As for cavalry, they should have smaller movement speed than infantry units, because of the massive supply train which accompanied them 9this is only for the western cavalry units).
ok from another thread this, but if the magyars were that few, maybe they should be limited for reqruitment and not be able to produce numerous armies as some other factions might. this could be done either with mercenaries (spawning time) or loong building time as I see it.
birkebeiners: I think these are very limited mercenaries(?). Maybe they should be restricted to norway rebel states. I really think they should be included, but how restricted and powerful is another issue.
About movement speed I think bopa has some really good points
Bopa my suggestion pretty much only concerns the North as the roads here were almost nonexsistant back then. Your arguments are sound when talking about the continent, but no matter how ruined the roads are by the autumn rains it will matter very little with a good amount of snow on them and with the ground frozen solid, in which case they and the surrounding landscape will be much easier travelled by people wearing skis compared to someone travelling it in the summertime. I believe there's actually a reference to the horror of travelling southern Sweden on foot in Heimskringla.
On the birkebeiners I've only seen them menioned once or twice in Heimskringla and can't really see why they should be give so much attention, they seem no different from any of the other small communities that were spread across Scandinavia at the time.
Dude, be serious, nearly every army if not all would use the roads, what army other than maybe a Viking one travelled cross country on ski's.
As for Magyars, yes that a good idea, since Magyars weren't leveid, they were trained from the age of four to ride a horse so could have long biuld times. But that should only be for Magyars cavalry as more often then not their infantry was mostly made up of conquered people. Except for the palace guards, it seems that these men were made up of the finest warriors the Magyars had.
Did you even read what I wrote?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar
~D I don't think he didQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarlabanke
Actually I see no point in investing a lot of wirk into this movement issue. It's a detail I think. Probably won't work anyway, besides there's so many different views on it that it will turn out wrong whatever we decide.