Patriotism

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Originally Posted by Axeknight

But Ian, you're also an idiot, man. And you've got ginger hair. Never forget that.

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You had to bring my hair into this....for the last time its STRAWBERRY BLONDE!!! Anyway one day the gingers will rule the world and we'll MAKE you be patriotic....
plus i'd like to refer to my earlier post where i said i like the isle of man, and i didnt mean to disrespect it? Axeknight? did you actually sing in that assembly, it seemed like only the head and a couple of year7's were singing...and who are you axeknight? i think i have an idea cos there is only two peole that play totalwar games in our school

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Last year I started in a new class and when my classmates heard I was a nationalist some directly asked if I were a nazist/rascist. It´s so taboo here in Sweden to be proud of your country! Sad indeed...

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Unfortunately it's much the same in England. I wouldn't describe myself as a nationalist, but I am proud of my country and its many traditions and sucesses. I'm always behind the England team in any modern warfare event (sport) and always back any project that will peacefully enhance our position on the world stage such as the 2012 Olympics.

When it comes to the English / British issue, I feel I am both. I feel there is a mutual sense of common national purpose amongst the countries within Great Britain. I feel an English parliament will be made necessary though in the future, as it is clearly unjust for the Scottish parliament to be able to make decisions that affect England and then make contrary decisions for Scotland.

When it comes to the British / European issue, I do not feel European. I do not detect a common goal or purpose with many of the other EU nations and I don't like being banded together as one group with them. Much of continental Europe is far too socialist for my liking and their desire to impose their (in my opinion inferiror) economic model on Britain is not for the best. I still love the peoples of the other EU nations though. In particular the Germans, Dutch and Scandinavians. I also have great respect for their traditions and customs, but I do not want a culturally harmoised Europe, because then there would be no fun be in going abroad.

Rule Britannia.

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Originally Posted by Al Khalifah

Much of continental Europe is far too socialist for my liking and their desire to impose their (in my opinion inferiror) economic model on Britain is not for the best.

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Can you explain that?

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Originally Posted by Al Khalifah

I still love the peoples of the other EU nations though. In particular the Germans, ...

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:bow:
I knww I was right. Everybody loves Germans! ~:wave:

Britain has a much more liberal economic policy than continental Europe does. Businesses have much more freedom and less restriction. They are also encouraged to be more competitive.
The European model is much more social. Workers rights are more highly valued and there is more regulation on business. Taxes are often higher too.

The Common Agricultural Policy is an example of this at work. The widely differing EU budget net contribution/benefits of members states too. This seems to harm competition. I guess it's not so much a desire to enforce their policy on us, rather a case of, we joined a club where everyone plays by some different rules to our own.

And yes everyone does love the Germans. Try as hard as we might, we can't help but keep forgiving and liking again.

I like the Germans...i also like the dutch for......undisclosed reasons concerning certain laws and hmmmm allowances....dont like the portugueses (at least not the footbal team) after that football match in which ENGLAND shoulda won....i like russia also, if only outa fear that if i didnt like them, they'll get me..

Gimme more!
Why do you like Germans? I always had the impression that the Brits are still fighting WW2.

My first loyalty is to my family, then my close friends then country, so no I'm not very patriotic but if I was I'm Scottish before I'm British.

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Originally Posted by ian_of_smeg16

You had to bring my hair into this....for the last time its STRAWBERRY BLONDE!!! Anyway one day the gingers will rule the world and we'll MAKE you be patriotic....
plus i'd like to refer to my earlier post where i said i like the isle of man, and i didnt mean to disrespect it? Axeknight? did you actually sing in that assembly, it seemed like only the head and a couple of year7's were singing...and who are you axeknight? i think i have an idea cos there is only two peole that play totalwar games in our school

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You know who I am. And this is the first time in ages I've been to this site, and just to annoy you. Hah! I know the screen name's a naff one, but I ain't too imaginative so I picked the first historical-looking word I found out of a guitar magazine.

What's your MSN, man?

I consider my self patriotic.I love my country and if i must im willing to die for it.I dont consider myself as an Nationalist though.If people are willing to move in this country to work and to prosper i wellcome anyone no matter what culture they come from.While there are only 5 million people in my country,im not worried about our culture vanishing.If it didnt vanish in 500 hundred years under Swedish occupation or 200 hundred years under Russian occupation why would it vanish now? :bow:

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

What, even the sixth verse? (no longer used)

Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!

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It's not that it is no longer used, it is that it was removed from the song entirely a few years after it was written. A besides, General Wade wasn't so bad, his roads revolutionised travel in the highlands. Only joking, I hate him...
And besides, there are not too many rebellious Scots left in Scotland...

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Originally Posted by Al Khalifah

When it comes to the English / British issue, I feel I am both. I feel there is a mutual sense of common national purpose amongst the countries within Great Britain. I feel an English parliament will be made necessary though in the future, as it is clearly unjust for the Scottish parliament to be able to make decisions that affect England and then make contrary decisions for Scotland.

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I don't know where you learned that about the Scottish Parliament, but it cannot do anything in England. It cannot even change taxes in Scotland (except Council Tax, but that is different). The reason that England doesn't have devolution is because the then and current government relies on its Scottish MPs to make a majority in Parliament, so Tories would control a devolved English Assembly.

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Originally Posted by King Malcolm

I don't know where you learned that about the Scottish Parliament, but it cannot do anything in England. It cannot even change taxes in Scotland (except Council Tax, but that is different). The reason that England doesn't have devolution is because the then and current government relies on its Scottish MPs to make a majority in Parliament, so Tories would control a devolved English Assembly.

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I refer to the case where the Scottish parliament blocked tuition fees being introduced in Scotland for Scottish students, yet MPs elected in Scotland voted in favour of introducing tuition fees in the Westminster parliament, which as a result has an affect on England.

Yes, that's the Scottish MPs, not the Scottish Parliament. Scottish MPs have a say in English matters, not the Scottish Parliament